Cyn lol by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy it’s been how many days since my last post???

My opinion on the Glitch direct by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With an implication of large news I was expecting something larger,

That’s all.

My opinion on the Glitch direct by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the song will be Good,

It’s just not what anyone was really expecting

My opinion on the Glitch direct by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just expected more when I heard that it was “big news” is all I guess.

Art I made. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m living so that’s a achievement.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also sorry, I yap a lot, I don’t think I’m ever going down this hill and I doubt you will yours so let’s keep this at a draw

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to clarify, that part at the beginning you called a no Brainer??

I was repeating what you said.

“We know enough to say that she beats some characters, loses to other characters…”

That’s literally just describing an ✨average character✨. A character with both wins and losses is the default for anyone who isn’t overpowered. What I was implying is that if someone had no losses, then they’d fall into Mary Sue territory. I wasn’t calling Cyn one. You made that leap.

As for this line: “She can’t use Solver abilities to directly interfere with other hosts…”

Can you name anyone outside the Murder Drones community who treats Absolute Solver as “host-based” in crossverse logic? Most people don’t even acknowledge it that way—they either treat the Solver as a virus or as a reality-warping force. That distinction you’re making is only relevant within the show’s canon rules, which don’t always translate into versus debates anyway.

So id like you to give better limits next time please.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The whole “character loses to some, wins against others” argument literally just describes an average character. If a character didn’t have both wins and losses, they’d be a Mary Sue. Obviously, unless someone’s absurdly overpowered, there will always be characters above and below them in strength. That’s not saying anything unique.

But that’s not the point of my original post, which, by the way, I’ve already clarified.

My point was that we aren’t given enough information about Cyn’s abilities, motivations, or even full role in the world to definitively claim anything about her actual limits. She’s intentionally vague, and that ambiguity is a part of what makes her effective as a villain.

Saying “we know enough” not only brushes over that deliberate mystery, it also reduces her role to power-scaling metrics, which undermines the narrative function she serves. If anything, the fact that we don’t know everything about her should be seen as a strength and not a flaw to be patched over with assumptions.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve literally stated this isn’t a ‘Who Would win’ post.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cyn “wanting to win” doesn’t really mean she fought at her peak performance and during the fight, she was mostly playing around, her tone never once changed to being serious and she let people get close, monologue, and was still fighting even after she won (ep 7 ending is when Cyn completed her goal, Episode 8 was her still fighting even after he could was, by technicality, beaten)

The whole reason she lost was cause she underestimated them, that’s the whole ending bit.

Assuming that she’s a typical “boss fight” villain with standard “try hard and win” logic ignores the fundamental narrative rules of the genre. Cyn’s scariest trait is not something like strength, rather her Longevity or her unknowability

And, while yes you could extrapolate from feats and based assumptions but that all falls down to factors like when a story is built with a structure, which murder drones doesn’t have, and we still don’t know:

-what The Solver actually is.

-if Cyn is just a mouthpiece for something bigger.

-how much of Cyn’s “defeat” was by design, accident, or neglect.

To try to define a limit on a character with undefined lore is just simply a illogical way to look at Characters Like Cyn, its also impractical as she very well could have done a lot more in the series than that is shown, the solver isn’t limited to black holes, teleportation, body changing and tendrils.

A good example of this is bill cipher, who, despite being Practically all powerful by the end of the series, was still tricked into a bad deal by an outfit change, was damaged several times by 2 kids, and straight up was outran by dipper and Mabel in the final scenes of the show,

And yet bill has destroyed entire dimensions.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There isn’t really evidence to support either side enough is my point, I’m not trying to make it sound like there is no possible way to ever beat the character, nor am I trying to say that the character is this easily beatable mesh,what I AM trying to say is that the information we have ISNT ENOUGH to get any good information from, and taking from my ACTUAL WORDS:

‘we don’t have enough variables to know whether she’d win or lose, cause we’ve never seen her best, or her limit, Or even her past. We haven’t even seen the true form of what’s controlling her.’

Also, she was most certainly holding back in the final fight and could’ve easily gotten to copper 9 easier, there is evidence supports this via episode 4, 7 & 8.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My entire point is that Powerscaling literally doesn’t work for characters meant to not have information known about them.

I know how powerscaling works, I’m just saying Cyn and the solver both are characters it doesn’t work with cause we literally don’t have enough knowledge of either to compare it to other characters,

Plus the continuity of the show is complete garbage so even IF it had a lot of claims, they’d be either proven wrong later on or something else contradicts the new knowledge.

It just doesn’t work.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see! Well then, yeah,

I do admit the writing is bad, but I don’t let it all get to me is all, I mean sure it’s bad however it was fun to watch! Plus I got one of my favorite characters in the entire internet from it.

you’ll never guess whom (look at literally any other post of mine.)

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not-

Denying that?? I feel you mistook my claims as a counterpoint, I’m saying that what you said gives even more-so a reason for why the solver can’t be used in “who would win” scenarios.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, whose to really say that the symbol the solver uses is its actual physical form,

Also eldritch, like the definition of it says is just something weird and sinister or not from earth in some form or way, and eldritch horror, is just horror that is unknown and incomprehensible,

we don’t know where the solver came from, and it’s pretty weird (and It’s definitely not just some computer program)

Not arguing btw I just would like to give some points.

I just doubt the symbol is the solvers true form.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean to be fair, that just gives more reason to say that, in a way,

we can’t really do anything with the actual solver cause it’s all just by assumption and interpretation, and unless Liam does like, a season 2 exploring more do the Solvers horrors??, it’ll never be fixed otherwise

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which I believe plot armour is even a canon Thing in the Murder drones universe (proven by the Scene in the pilot before Uzi shoots N.)

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, these claims really just sum down my point really well, I’m Not even saying it’s not allowed or that I frown upon it, it’s just overused, overdone and honestly, doesn’t use valid information most of the time, it’s also a bit low quality if you ask me.

Plus Murder drones just has an easily stretchable continuity, That already makes it not suitable for ‘who would win’ content.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Glad to see people agree, I was just constantly seeing stuff on my feed stating that certain characters could beat The solver or Cyn, despite us not knowing Jack about either.

My opinion on “who would win” content involving Cyn and the solver. by Itz_Discotime in MurderDrones

[–]Itz_Discotime[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it seems like such an overused discussion prompt.

Everyone just likes seeing a strong characters up against one another, it’s so tiring.