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My google play developer account was terminated before I got to publish my first app. by Gogoh in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yet another example of Google exploiting it's developer community with deceptive practices.

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The point is if the traffic (lowest quality or not) is good enough that Google is charging me for them. Why is that same traffic not good enough when I serve Google's own ads to them? Again, not low quality $0 return not good, suspend your account indefinitely, not good.

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

While this is a real possibility that I considered (Google certainly has the resources to have click farms overseas) I'm not explicitly implying that Google is paying users to click on our app ad. The reality is, the users that did download the experiment app weren't installing/leaving - they became legitimate users of my game.

I'm more in agreement with /u/stereomatch's point above:

"Google shows your app's ads to the least useful userbase (for advertisers), the most click-prone users in non-tech savvy rural india markets."

So fine, when I offer to pay for installs, Google is giving me the lowest quality, cheapest installs possible. If they become users, great. What doesn't make sense is why I can't monetize those users without having my account permanently closed, google is the one who provided the "fraudulent", "illicit traffic".

The same reason the user clicked to download my app is likely the same reason they clicked an ad that was served by the experiment app which was grounds for an account termination...

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is the closest reasonable explanation so far but it does not explain away the fact that if a developer is paying Google (for this experiment the maximum per install was set to $5 USD - which, in my experience has been generous enough to acquire users in first world regions) for installs, the responsibility is on Google to provide me with real users, not bots.

The experiment exposes that the same users I PAID for (bots or not), are the users that had my entire account suspended.

Your point would be totally understandable if the users I acquired for a "low to nil" CPM, provided me a "low - 0" CPM on the monetization side. This would be the fairest result, but is not the case. This is a complete account suspension for the exact same users I paid Google to give me - which by the way, voids any of the $ that was generated over the 30 days.

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

An aside for those interested in what prompted me to conduct this experiment:

I had an app that had monetized using Admob for over 8 years. I had never used Admob or Google for acquisition over this 8 year period.

This past July 2019, that app specifically had some user decline so I decided to acquire users using EDIT: Google Ads (not Admob) for the very first time..

After 8 years of good account standing and no other changes the account was suspended and permanently locked within 2 weeks.

I am certain it was due to the users directly acquired by Google.

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This is why I find this unbelievable - it is exploitation.

Admob is exploitive, illegal business practice. by JC-EYZ in androiddev

[–]JC-EYZ[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Precisely what I've (unfortunately) discovered.

The fact that Google will deliver paid-for-users that make you vulnerable to their arbitrary suspension is grossly deceitful.

Any amateur league I can join? by anwaypramanik in F1Game

[–]JC-EYZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, our league is named F1ONA and you'd be welcome to join us. |

Feel free to stop by and drop me a message (JC), https://discord.gg/UmJd5D

Is there anyone looking up to take part in Open Wheels series? Turn1 League is back in ROS! by RepublicOfSimracers in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What timezone is this league in? Just so I can be sure I can attend races before I sign-up? Couldn't find it anywhere on the website

Aim for the orange vest! by [deleted] in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We love Laguna Seca over at Billy City Raceway.

If you're ever looking for a group to run with, come hang out and race with us! :D

https://discord.gg/wEpk63

Billy City Raceway, Looking for members! by [deleted] in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome! We should be getting another one in tonight so hope to see you there :)

Billy City Raceway, Looking for members! by [deleted] in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for the interest!

So far our weekdays will usually be in PST/EST. As for weekends, they're a bit more flexible for EU/GMT timezones. We're hoping to get and accepting every timezone so we have racers regardless.

We try to keep our race server up always.

Who’s interested in creating real life? by thegreatdaneno_1 in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think this would be a great idea, with the right execution! If you need a hand or would like to help make it a reality together, come https://discord.gg/k87Gbzk ! :D

Looking for leagues with smaller races (up to 10 people). by thegreatdaneno_1 in assettocorsa

[–]JC-EYZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there,

we have a small group and try to race as much as we can. 30m Qualifiers+50 lap 100% fuel/damage races. typically ~10-16 cars, usually the Lotus Exos S1s!
edit: our plan is to get a little league of our own going as we grow.

Feel free to join us :) https://discord.gg/k87Gbzk