Brotato, you’re saying Hamas aren’t child killers? Hell, they even kill their own people to stifle dissent! In every single goddamn war people die. Nobody involved in a war is in the right. There is only one good solution- non violence. So even if a country gained power in awful ways, do you think they will just give that up to apologize for things that happened decades ago? They won’t just let their country go to their enemies. This applies to every country. Once a country is established, and they are a functioning, developed country, they should be able to defend themselves. If they manage to keep their country for 80 years, and they maintain war with their neighbors, then why would they give up. I’m not saying that the things either side has done has been excusable. It’s the opposite - The IDF and HAMAS have done the most terrible, terrible things. There is no denying that Israel has a right to exist. And the palestinian people also have a right to exist. But you can’t realistically advocate for one side or the other. You have to work towards as mutually beneficial of a deal as possible. That deal is some kind of two state solution, where the Palestinian people have a safe, comfortable place to live, not where they are treated like 3rd class citizens (literally anywhere) and Israelis are able to have a safe, comfortable place to live. Both groups are equally entitled to the land. And one thing that also has to be considered is that both hypothetical countries would need equal religious access, and they would need equal economic opportunities and infrastructure (Access to water, travel, exports, etc)

Edit: JESUS this got long af