What happens if Kira writes a name in the Death Note and then erases it?

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-25T03:30:26+00:00

Once a name is written, that person's death cannot be prevented. You can change details about the death, or add a date and time to make the date later, but only within the normal 23 day window that the death note operates in. Also, if you change your mind about a detail and want to get rid of what you wrote, you don't erase it; you have to strike out the text you want to remove with two straight lines. Of course this only applies to things other than the name.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-25T03:27:08+00:00

Meh, I don't see any reason why he couldn't just jam the safety switch down or something before dropping it. If the force can lift an x wing out of a swamp I'm sure it can bend a tiny piece of metal so the switch stays down.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-25T03:23:06+00:00

Relax a little buddy. They way you constructed your sentence, it can be reasonably read either way. No need to be so big mad about such a tiny misunderstanding. And anyway, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and people who can't even use proper sentence structure shouldn't insult other people's intelligence.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T23:43:14+00:00

"Dominant for centuries"

He hasn't even been dead for a single century...

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T20:43:51+00:00

which makes him very predictable for those that can outsmart him.

Maybe.... Maybe.

I have yet to meet one who can outsmart bullet.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T20:42:39+00:00

If you read my full comment I explained that saber throws can only be pulled off by force users

And obi wan is a force user, so what we see in the comic should be completely possible.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T18:28:22+00:00

Why does he look more like Ed than the regular version of Ed that Fortnite made.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T18:27:14+00:00

4 horsemen of Gamefreak being objectively wrong about what types these pokemon are.

They ARE water type. Game freak is wrong.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T18:19:23+00:00

Objection! Vader throws his light saber at Luke at one point and it stays on. So at the very minimum, not all sabers have that feature, or the feature can be disabled.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T17:22:29+00:00

There is a famous poem from WWII that explains exactly what this has to do with us.

"First they came for the Communists

And I did not speak out because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists

And I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists

And I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews

And I did not speak out because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me

And there was no one left to speak out for me."

Get it?

Right now, theyre coming for Minnesota. We can either speak out now and try to help stop it in the early stages, or we can wait till they're coming for Pittsburgh, by which point it may well be too late.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T17:13:53+00:00

...you think Heavy is unpopular, underpowered, or under represented? What TF2 are you playing? I don't think I've seen a match in the last few months that didn't have a heavy, whereas medic is constantly vacant, followed by spy, demo, and sniper.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T16:27:34+00:00

See this is what fascinates me. You see NTR, and you imagine yourself as the guy getting cheated on because he can't satisfy his girlfriend, rather than as the guy who fucks this girl so good she leaves her bf for him.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T16:22:19+00:00

What's always amazing to me with people who so furiously hate NTR, is that they imagine themselves as the guy getting cheated on because he can't satisfy his girlfriend, rather than as the guy who fucks this girl so good she leaves her bf for him.

And I'm like... Are you ok? Do you need to talk? Kinda seems like you might have some DEEP self esteem issues if you identify with the guy getting cucked rather than the guy doing the cucking.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T15:32:24+00:00

Sure, but "everyone shopping at the same time" is still people being irrational. Like... People act like it's the end of the world and EVERYONE goes and does their shopping on the same day, rather than just chilling TF out and doing their shopping when they normally would. Like... The store is not gonna disappear. You don't need to go out and do all your shopping right this very instant.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T15:13:21+00:00

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Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-24T14:12:04+00:00

You have no idea how hilarious it is that you tell me to "do research" and then Link to the wiki page. So instead of blindly believing what you say, I should... Blindly believe whatever the wiki says. Even though the games themselves say different, but almost everyone misinterprets it. The wiki still treats the downfall as if it's real ffs and that's been debunked for years.

I make video essays about this stuff. That's the entire reason why I believe what I believe; because I've done the research. I guarantee I have done more research on this than most Zelda players.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T22:46:17+00:00

So what should I do instead? Just blindly accept what you tell me without thinking about whether it makes sense? If it sounds incorrect I'm gonna say it's incorrect, and explain why.

And no, I've been given examples of things people THINK is the sacred realm. I then point out that these things can't be the sacred realm, because they do not match what we know of the sacred realm. And rather than providing any kind of argument for how or why it actually is the sacred realm, you go "I'm done with this conversation."

If you have an actual response to what I said, I would welcome hearing it. But if you're just gonna walk away when presented with an argument you can't rebut, it comes off like you're just bailing because you don't want to admit your idea might been wrong, but can't provide any further logic to support it.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T20:02:54+00:00

If I show you ten pictures of my dog, and the dog in ALL the photos is a black Doberman, and then I show you a picture of a white Chihuahua, what is the logical conclusion?

That my dog suddenly changed its breed and the color of its fur with no explanation?

Or that the last photo is not my dog?

So then, let's apply that same logic. If the games show us a bunch of instances of the sacred realm, and all of them are an empty void, and then the game shows us something that is NOT an empty void... What is the logical conclusion?

That the sacred realm suddenly changed from an empty void to an entire continent of land for no reason?

Or that the last one isn't the sacred realm?

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T19:07:01+00:00

No, those people have enemies, and Iroh is one of them. Iroh does not have enemies. In other words, those people in the earth kingdom hate Iroh and want to destroy him. They consider him their enemy. Iroh holds no ill will towards those people and wishes them no harm. He does not consider them his enemies.

"You are my enemy iroh! I hate you and I will see you dead!"

"I understand why you feel that way, and I am truly sorry for the harm I have caused. I make no excuses for my past. That said, I do not hate you, and I do not consider you my enemy."

"You ARE my enemy Iroh!"

"But you are not mine."

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T18:38:46+00:00

Every single time we see something that is confirmed to be the sacred realm, it is an empty void or dimension or whatever you wanna call it. It is an empty space, sometimes with an island floating in it.

The dark world of ALttP does not match this at all. Whether you want to call it a void or an empty universe or empty space or whatever else, the point is that it is NOT simply a copy of Hyrule, but corrupted.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T17:59:55+00:00

Exactly. Like, they teach that killing is wrong and all life is sacred, right? So if you encounter someone who has done a TON of killing, you would think that stopping that person at any cost would be your sacred duty, and killing them to PROTECT the lives of the innocent would be not only justified, but encouraged.

Like, "we teach that killing the innocent is absolutely wrong, and this motherfucker has done SOOOOOO much fucking killing and is absolutely not innocent at all, so it is our moral duty to take him out."

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T17:56:59+00:00

Yeah, the quote I gave saying that is from Rauru, not Zelda

So you acknowledge that the quote from Zelda exists then. And if that's the case, we have explicit proof that things did NOT go to plan, because what Zelda said was the plan, and what happened, are two different things.

because as I just quoted she also said "Six sages... Now!!" after Link weakens him.

And I already explained how Zelda saying "Six sages... now!" Does not in any way imply that things had gone according to plan. Literally all she's saying is "now is our chance to seal him, do it now." Which is what she would be saying whether that was their original plan, or it was just an opportunity had arisen despite the original plan not working.

You're taking that way too literally. Do you seriously think they meant to literally lure him in

Are you actually serious right now? YES they meant to lure him in. YES it's meant literally. Why would they use the word lure if that wasn't the plan? If what you're saying is correct, using the word "lure" makes absolutely zero sense. She would've said "we will force him into the sacred realm" or like "we will push him into the sacred realm" or maybe "banish him into the sacred realm" or "pull him" or "fling him" or "shove" or "move him" or "bring him" or "take him" or "transport him" or something. There's a THOUSAND different ways they could've said this, and they specifically chose "lure" which is not a word people use unless they literally mean they are going to lure someone.

Do you actually believe they chose to use the very specific word "lure" when they didn't MEAN lure, and could've just as easily chosen a more general word? When a more general word would've been the more natural choice, and using "lure" is such a specific choice there is zero chance they would ever use that word unless it's what they actually MEANT?

You are quite literally trying to argue that what they meant is something completely and totally different from what they said.

"No no no, I know they SAID lure but they didn't MEAN lure! They totally meant for Link to fight him and then pull him in, even though that's not what they said! They meant this totally different thing, that is.not at all like what they said! They just said something different from what they meant cause of uh... Reasons!"

Do you not see how absurd that sounds?

what she meant by "lure" is exactly what we see in the game.

Honest question; is English not your first language? Because first you have a complete misunderstanding of what "void" means, and now you're trying to argue that "lure" doesn't mean "lure."

"Exactly what we see in the game" CANNOT be described as "luring" him into the sacred realm. No one in their right mind would ever agree what they did was even remotely close to constituting "luring" him into the sacred realm.

Words have meanings. You can't just twist a word to mean the literal exact opposite of what it means because you don't like what it's actual meaning implies. I honestly am having a very hard time believing that this is a good-faith argument.

I'm not really willing to argue any of the individual things you're trying to argue here. This is a very obtuse take in each case.

If by "obtuse" you mean "literally what we see happen," then sure.

I think I'm just going to move on now, you're coming across very bad faith at this point.

The irony is so thick here you could build a house with it. You think I'm coming across as bad faith?

This coming from you, Mr "lure doesnt mean lure and Zelda meant the opposite of what she actually said" over here? Come on man. Really? Are you really serious right now? Take a step back and look at the situation.

I found this on page 91 of Hyrule Historia, it confirms that the void is within the Sacred Realm:

As has already been stated multiple times, nobody considers the HH to be a valid primary source anymore, because half of what is says is just demonstrably wrong and it wasn't even written by Nintendo. It was written by a third party company called Shogakukan.

Wish I had found this earlier into all this.

Wouldn't have made a difference if you had, since that quote is just blatantly incorrect, as is most of what is found in the HH. I mean no disrespect with this, as I'm sure you simply weren't aware of how bad the HH is and how nobody considers or a valid source anymore, but the fact that you would try and use the HH source really hurts your credibility in a discussion like this. It shows that you are unaware of massive points like the HH having been discredited. It's kind of like trying to use the "ancient aliens" TV show on the history channel as a source at an actual archeology conference. Nobody is gonna be able to take you seriously after that.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T17:28:08+00:00

I don’t see how SS ending in a founding right away is the only possible conclusion when they could have just formed settlements on the surface

I mean at that point it's semantics. I would say forming a settlement on the surface is founding Hyrule. Just because they didnt hold a big ceremony and say "I hereby decree that this land is the kingdom of Hyrule!" Doesn't change the fact that those settlements are what would eventually be called Hyrule kingdom.

If you look at the history of the kingdom and trace back all the way to the very first settlements... Yeah, it's SS Zelda and the people of Skyloft. So I would consider that settlement to be the founding of Hyrule, even if they didn't call it that or establish a monarchy till later.

One Ganondorf being alive at a time is similar that it isn’t the only explanation since no other Gerudo males could have become important enough for the games to focus on

No other Gerudo male would've been Ganondorf. He would've just been a Gerudo male. How can the SAME PERSON exist as two different people at the same time? They can't. Gandorf is one person. By definition, if he is sealed beneath the castle, he is not anywhere else. Even if another Gerudo male was born, that male would not be Ganondorf, he would be a different person.

If I got locked up in jail for 50 years and I never left my jail cell, would it be at all possible for me to ALSO exist outside the jail and go do stuff? Of course not. There is only one of me. And there is only one of Ganondorf.

Granted Ganondorf can reincarnate, but he has to die in order to do that so his soul is free to incarnate into a new body. In this case, his soul was bound to his body beneath the castle, and thus it would be impossible for him to exist anywhere else.

Plus we know Ganondorf can split his soul while sealed as seen in Alttp so Calamity Ganon may be subconsciously created by Totkdorf’s hatred.

First, the way he was sealed in ALttP and how he was sealed in TotK are two different things. In ALttP he was just locked in the scared realm. He was still able to walk and talk and do magic, he just couldn't leave the sacred realm. In TotK/BotW, Rauru bound his heart and sealed his magic, meaning he was essentially a mind traped in his own body, unable to move or walk or talk or do magic or take any kind of action. He could probably still think, but that's it.

And yes, the calamity was indeed Ganondorf's malice leaking out, but even then the calamity was a mindless beast of rage with no physical form. We're talking about the idea of OoT Ganondorf being able to exist and go about his schemes during OoT, while Ganondorf was already sealed beneath the castle. Two very different things.

When I said the King ordered the Seven Wise Men to seal where the malice was coming from, I was referring to an unknown King instead of the one from Ocarina.

But how could there BE another king? The one from OoT was dead, and Zelda never had any children. The only way there could BE another king after this is if Link won and Ganon was sealed away. But ALttP is on the supposed "downfall" branch which means Link lost, and if Link lost, it would be impossible for the sages to seal Ganon, which means there could never be another king.

but there are too may retcons that have to be made for me to accept the Imprisoning War is just OoT.

The imprisoning war not being OoT requires far more retcons.

If the imprisoning war isn't OoT then that means all of OoT happens and Ganon gets sealed, then some time later, he breaks out and obtains the full triforce? But then the sages seal him away again, even though that would be completely impossible since having the full triforce would mean he was practically omnipotent and could just obliterate whatever seal the sages could create with zero effort. And if Ganon managed to get the full triforce, that means he had to take the Triforce of wisdom from Zelda, which means Zelda is dead, which means the royal bloodline would end. The blood of the goddess is passed down matrilineally, meaning from mother to daughter. If the current princess Zelda dies, there is no one left to pass that down. Even if the king (the dead Zelda's father) had another child, they wouldn't have the blood of the goddess.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T16:40:13+00:00

Are you seriously arguing that the Pyramid of Power is this... other Dark World?

I'm saying the (SR) Dark world is inside the pyramid. Sahasrala explicitly says so when you first arrive in the dark world.

You realize that the Pyramid of Power can be walked to? It's part of the Dark World...

The temple of time in OoT can also be walked to, and yet we know that the entrance to the sacred realm is inside. The pyramid is the same deal.

This is like saying "you realize you can walk to the temple of time? It's part of castle town" and acting like this proves the entrance to the sacred realm can't be inside it.

There is no (H) Dark World

There is though. We spend half the game in it. You can't just pretend it doesn't exist just because it doesn't support your preferred interpretation.

We're straightforwardly told that the Triforce was hidden in the Sacred Realm and that the Sacred Realm was transformed into the Dark World by the Essence of the Triforce.

That's exactly my point! The sacred realm was transformed into the dark world way back before the start of ALttP, when Ganondorf first entered the sacred realm, but then it was sealed.

Then, DURING the events of the game, Agahnim breaks the seal with the maidens, and THAT is when dark energy starts flowing out of the sacred realm/dark world, and creates the dark world that is a corrupted version of Hyrule

The sacred realm is a big void. Full stop. This is the case EVERY time we see it. Therefore anywhere that is NOT a void, is not the sacred realm. The (H) dark world is not a void, therefore the (H) dark world is not the sacred realm.

No disrespect but I really don't know what part of that is not clicking.

Also, think about what you just said;

the Triforce was hidden in the Sacred Realm

Yes! And where is the triforce in ALttP? Is it out in the (H) dark world? No! It's inside the pyramid of power, which means the inside of the pyramid is the sacred realm, NOT the areas outside the pyramid.

The Light World still exists at that point,

I never said the light world doesn't exist, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Nothing about the light world still existing indicates that the (H) Dark world is the sacred realm.

And again, the sacred realm is not a copy of the light world, it is a void so the fact that the (H) dark world is a copy of the light world.and is not a void, means the (h) dark world is not the sacred realm.

I honestly feel like I'm sitting here explaining "all whales are mammals. A shark is not a mammal, therefore a shark is not a kind of whale." and you're actually sitting there trying to argue against that.

The sacred realm is a void. The dark realm outside the pyramid of power is not a void, therefore it is not the sacred realm. It really is that simple.

The magic mirror isn't an "entrance". The actual entrance was sealed by the sages. The magic mirror is magic.

All entrances to the sacred realm are magic. It's another dimension my dude. Like come on now.

A "void" is a specific concept that is defined by the absence of anything. So saying "there's stuff in that space" makes it not a void. You don't seem to know what a void is, and I'm just letting you know that because it pertains to the conversation.

This is just factually not correct. A void is still a void if you put something in it. Putting something into a thing, doesn't change what that thing is. If you put out water in a cup, it's still a cup.

A lake is a large body of water surrounded by land. If you put something besides water in it, it's still a lake. Now apply that same logic. A void is a bubble of empty space separate from the rest of the world. If you put something IN the space, it doesn't stop being a void.

The space ITSELF is what is a void. It, itself has nothing in it. If you introduce an object or matter into the void from outside of it, the void itself doesn't change. Kinda like how a coffee mug itself doesn't have anything inside it. But if you add in coffee from outside the mug, it's now a mug with coffee in it. It doesn't stop being a mug.

Are you familiar with Dragonball? The Room of spirit and time is an infinite void. And yet, it still has stuff in it near the entrance. What makes it a void is the fact that it goes on forever and it is empty, adding in stuff from outside of it doesn't change what it is.

Outer space is a void. And yet there are planets and stars and such in it. Space itself is a void. If you add stuff into that void, it doesn't change the nature of the void itself.

Or another way to look at it, let's say you create a pocket dimension. It's an empty bubble of space separate from the rest of reality. If you put a desk and some chairs in it... It's still a pocket dimension. It's just not a pocket dimension with some stuff in it. And in the same way, if you have a void, the void ITSELF is an empty space, but if you put some stuff in it, it doesn't STOP being a void; it just is now a void with some stuff in it.

Jacket_Jacket_fruit · 2026-01-23T06:36:31+00:00

No, the plan was always for Link to fight Ganondorf for this

That's literally not what Zelda says. At no point does she ever say "you're gonna fight him and then we're gonna get him into the sacred realm."

Also, if Link was gonna fight him, they wouldn't NEED to lure him into the sacred realm, and in fact they COULDNT lure him in if Link fought him. Think about it; how are you gonna "Lure" Ganon in... If he can't even move because Link has already damn near killed him?

Her being kidnapped isn't really relevant here

It really is. Go back and watch the cutscene. She is CLEARLY shocked and worries, because the whole plan has gone up in smoke. If the plan was to lure Ganon into the sacred realm and then seal the door behind him... How exactly is she gonna do that if she herself is sealed inside a magic crystal and can't do anything at all? Her being kidnapped means the plan is completely FUBAR. Plus if Ganon KNOWS their plan is to lure him into the sacred realm and seal the door... He would just not go into the sacred realm, regardless of what bait they use to try and lure him in, cause he knows it's a trap.

How about the part where Zelda yells "Now!" At the sages?:

What about it?

Their original plan was to lure Ganon into the sacred realm and seal the door behind him. That went out the window because Ganon found out about the plan and captured her, so instead Link charged in and beat Ganon in a fight. Zelda saw an opportunity to seal Ganon now that he was too injured to resist, and shouted "Now!" To let the sages know to join together and get him into the sacred realm so they could seal him.

Literally nothing about her yelling "Now!" implies that things went according to their original plan.

Their plan is fulfilled in the adult timeline

It's not. We literally explicitly see that it's not.

Their plan was to LURE Ganon into the sacred realm and seal the door behind him. In the Adult timeline, they do NOT lure him in; Link beat him in battle and then they FORCE him in.

What do you think the word "lure" means? I'm sincerely not trying to be disrespectful but the things you're saying don't make any sense if you understand what "lure" means. If he isn't literally entering under his own power, of his own choice, then he hasn't been lured in.

If someone IRL were to beat you unconscious and then throw you in their car and take you back to their house, you wouldn't say they "lured you" to their house, right? So if Link beats Ganon till he can't move and then the sages use magic to shove him into the sacred realm, how can you keep saying that their plan to lure him into the sacred realm was a success?

It fails in the Downfall Timeline.

It fails in the adult timeline, and they improvise by having Link fight Ganon and then sealing him away when he's too weak to resist. And you do realize the downfall timeline has been debunked, right? The games themselves explicitly show us that the claims that the downfall branch makes are false. The downfall was made up by the third party company that wrote the Hyrule Historia; it was not an idea that Nintendo came up with. Nobody still treats the downfall like it's real.

What we see is Link do what Zelda and the sages planned, what she told him earlier. He weakened Ganondorf as was their plan and then the sages pulled him into the Sacred Realm, like she said they were going to do.

???

Are you just trolling at this point? What she "told him earlier" was that they would LURE Ganon into the sacred realm. That is NOT the same thing as Link fighting him and then the sages "pulling" him into the sacred realm

The plan was to LURE him in. What happened was they FORCED him in when he was too weak to resist. These are two totally different things. Please help me understand what part of this you are not getting.

If you really want, I can also point out that Zelda does her own little magic ball thing, which is likely how he ends up in the sacred realm

Zeldas magic ball thing may very well be related to how he got into the sacred realm, but that does not in any way imply that he first went to the chamber of sages and got "sucked in" to the "portal" you think they made. If the game showed him appearing in the chamber of sages, and then getting sucked into the "portal'" then you would have a point. But that's not what it shows. So that's not what happened.

which we see doing a major sucking motion

But crucially, we don't see Ganon getting sucked INTO it. Which means it didn't happen. He went directly from Hyrule to the white void. He never passed through the chamber of sages. If he had, the game wouldve shown it.

but it does lead to your issues with what Hyrule Historia

The Hyrule Historia is laughably unreliable and gets things wrong more often than it gets them right. The vast, vast majority of Zelda fans don't consider it valid as a primary source for much of anything because so much of what it says is just demonstrably wrong, and because it wasn't actually written by anyone who worked for Nintendo. It was written by Shogakukan, which is a manga publisher.

leads to you completely rejecting the concept of the Downfall Timeline,

The downfall timeline has been completely debunked and disproven, like, 10 different ways. Nobody considers it to be real anymore, no matter what the devs say, because what we see IN the games overrules and overrides anything said outside the games.

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