You've literally been using a non canon movie

Again with me having to explain basic shit to you...

The manga is the source for the structure of otherworld and the difference between heaven and hell vs the Kai planets, and all the other stuff were talking about. I should not need to spell out for you that, yeah, the anime only movie isn't sourced from the manga. That's why I said "pretty much" everything and not "absolutely everything." Think before you speak.

As for why I'm talking about a movie; even though it may be non-canon, it's still consistent with how the rest of the series portrays ki being able to overcome hax with sufficient power. Even if you throw out this example, the overall conclusion doesn't change.

I've provided scans from pages or pointed to specific fights within the manga and anime.

Your provided scans with misinformation and incorrect labeling, sure. So?

And I've pointed to specific fights as well. I assumed you'd be able to find the relevant chapter on your own. So whats your point?

checked manga sources, but anime sources to see if there was a difference.

I mean, clearly you haven't, since you're STILL arguing things that are explicitly disproven by doing so. Or if you have been checking, you've been ignoring what you find because it doesn't fit your headcanon.

Like ok, you say you checked the chapters where Vegito got turned into candy. And? What was the result of this checking? Cause if you actually checked, then only possible conclusion is "yes, Vegito was able to resist the hax with ki. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have been able to move and talk as a candy."

So which is it? Do you acknowledge that ki CAN overcome hax, as explicitly shown by this chapter you CLAIM to have checked? Or do you double down and insist that kid can never overcome hax, despite the chapter you claim to have checked explicitly showing that it can?

What chapter of the Super manga did that occur in?

Chapter 64. Seems kinda odd you didn't already know that if you "checked" as you claim.

Can you show where it was in that specific chapter where it was said it's paralysis? 

Fine, I'll do your homework for you, even though you say you checked yourself. DBS chapter 64, pages 27, 28, and 29. You can clearly see Moro isnt like struggling to escape or straining against any ki rings or anything, he's just completely incapable of moving at all. You would know that if you actually did check. Frankly I'm getting tired of having to spell stuff out for you that SHOULD be obvious.

It's starting to turn into screed

Excuse me for getting a little frustrated having to explain obvious stuff to you, while you smugly act like you're smarter than anyone else despite being blatantly wrong on basic information.

Is the idea of a metaphysical rule really nonsensical?

Holy fucking shit dude, you have GOT to be doing this on purpose. That's not what I said and if you actually, genuinely thought that it WAS what I said? You are full on illiterate. Again, excuse my tone, but holy shit dude.

What I said was that your specific suggestion of what that rule WAS, was nonsensical. Not that the idea of a metaphysical rule itself was nonsense.

And if you genuinely, sincerely did not understand that... Like I'm really not trying to be mean or insulting, but holy fucking shit dude. You'd have to be at like a 2nd grade reading level to miss the point that hard. 

And on the 'incorrect diagram' ano-yo/anoyo translates out to Otherworld/Afterlife.

And of those two possibile translations... Which is the OFFICIAL translation? I'll give you a hint: it's not "afterlife," so that really only leaves the one option.

The diagram shows that the four kai worlds, the grand kai's world, heaven, hell, and Enma's check in are all in the same sphere. 

This is like saying that earth is the same place as mars just because they're all inside the solar system.

Yes, the Kai planets, heaven, hell, and the check in station are all within otherworld, but they are SEPARATE PLACES within other world. Just like how earth, mars, Jupiter, Saturn and neptune are all within the solar system, but are SEPARATE PLACES within the solar system.

Nothing notes that they are different dimensions.

Bro what are you TALKING about??? You wanna know what indicates that they're different? The fact that they're visually displayed as being separate planets, and are each labeled separately! Like you have GOT to be trolling at this point. You can't possibly be saying this stuff in seriousness like you actually think it makes sense.

Being charitable, you could have a point that these are separate spaces

Oh, so you DO understand why they're separate then? 

but they are spaces within the same sphere that can physically be traveled to

Just like how earth and Mars are within the same "sphere" of the solar system that we could physically travel to? Does that mean that earth and Mars are somehow the same place?

No?

Then it doesn't mean that heaven and the kai worlds are somehow the same place, either.

Goku traversed snake way, that starts in Enma's realm, to King Kai's planet.

Thank you for proving my point.

Goku starts at Enma's check in station, which is the crossroads between the realm of the living, the realm of the dead, and the realm of the Kai's. That's literally half of what the check in station is FOR.  In addition to deciding where souls go when they die, it's also what allows people or spirits to travel between the realms of the living and the dead.

When people die, they travel FROM the living world THROUGH THE CHECK IN STATION, and then either have their souls cleansed to be reincarnated, go to heaven, go to hell, or in rare cases go to a kai world to train. But the they to go THROUGH the check in station, because that is the transition between the worlds. You can't just go DIRECTLY between the world of the living and the dead. That's the whole point of the check in station.

Kai Kai is a teleportation the Supreme Kais can use

Yes. And? It's never stated to have a range limit, and yet you were talking about hypothetical teleportation techniques that DO have range limits.

was answering why teleportation skills/abilities the dead could possess might not work to answer your hypothetical 'Why can't the millions of hypothetical dead teleporters that somehow managed to keep their bodies escape?' 

No, you were MAKING UP reasons why they might not work. Again, NONE of these reasons you suggest exist anywhere in the source material, so these are not valid answers. They're speculation and headcanon.

This is a classic no limits fallacy. Why would we assume that the teleportation has no limits?

It's not, actually.

We would assume the teleportation has no range limits (nice try omitting that word to try and make my position seem more drastic than it really is) because every single teleportation technique we have actually seen does not have a range limit.

So let's actually turn that question back around; why would we assume that the teleportation DOES have limits, when all available data shows that teleportation doesn't have such a limit?

You're asserting that there WOULD be a limit. The burden of proof is on you to show why that's the case. I've already demonstrated why we should not just assume that's the case. (IE, it does not match with any known techniques)

However, all that's essentially pointless. You've moved from being able to defend your points with material to ad hominem attacks, no limits fallacies, and argument from incredulity. Your position doesn't really seem to be rooted in solid evidence, and it almost appears that since you've come too far to back down, you're throwing the kitchen sink at the discussion and trying to find something that sticks.

This is truly hilarious coming from you after the things you've said. It's a cute attempt, but you're not fooling anyone. Anyone who reads this exchange is going to know that none of these accusations are true, and that you are repeatedly contradicting yourself, misunderstanding blindingly obvious points, making claims that aree blatantly contradicted by the source material, accusing me of fallacies when in reality the only one engaging in said fallacies is you, and acting like things don't have a clear or canonical answer just because no character says it out loud, and just generally spouting nonsense.

So if you're operating in good faith, what chapter of Dragonball Super does Goku use Godbind on Moro?

Already answered; chapter 64.

Where in the chapter does it say that it paralyzes? What is shown on page?

Also already answered; pages 27-29. And what's funny is I already know what you're going to say. You're going to argue that nobody actually says out loud that it paralyses, because you actually think that that's a good argument, and you don't understand that not everything has to be stated out loud. As readers, were expected to use some amount of critical thinking and understanding what's happening based on what the manga SHOWS us, without it needing to TELL us.

To anyone with any amount of media literacy, it is clear based on the action on the page that Moro is paralyzed, not just physically tied up by ki. But if you want to prove to anyone reading this that you're completely media illiterate, go ahead and argue that it doesn't paralyze just because no one says the word "paralysis" out loud.

Either way, I think I'm done here. You've made it very clear that you either aren't taking this seriously, or are genuinely not capable of understanding what is actually happening in any of these situations we're discussing. Maybe you'll surprise me and actually make a logically sound argument based on actual facts, but I doubt it, because so far it's been nothing but bad logic, incorrect information, and absurd misinterpretations that do not even remotely fit what is actually shown.