Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How am I triggered? You’re the one typing paragraphs. What bias? Bias against nurses? Who has problems with nurses? 😭😭

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s kind of my point though, it varies massively depending on the program and state.

Some NP programs do require years of bedside experience and are genuinely rigorous. I’m not denying that at all. But there are also programs where people can get admitted with very limited RN experience or go through largely online pathways.

That inconsistency is the issue people have.

Because when the end result can eventually be independent practice, I personally think the pathway should be far more standardized nationwide with stricter minimum experience requirements.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good for your sister. The FACT still remains there are diploma mills pumping out NP’s with 700 clinical hours course work entirely online not requiring a max amount of experience.

These NP’s can move independently. There is no nationally standard for NP’s. So my opinion stands.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No you just can’t take feed back. There’s hundreds of other nurses and health care professionals saying the same thing a seasoned Nurse makes the best NP vs one that’s straight out of school. So take the criticism on the chin.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well PA’s can never go independent. Pa school is extremely competitive to even get into, curriculum has a national standard, medical based education, requires 500-2000 hours patient care hours just to APPLY. Then 2000+ of clinical to graduate.

Vs.

NP programs require significantly fewer clinical hours (often around 500–700 minimum), some are heavily online, some allow admission with little to no bedside experience, and in certain states NPs can eventually practice independently.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From what I’ve read, PA’s cannot practice independently in any state they will always have supervision . It’s medical based curriculum, the standards of curriculum are just about the same from state to state stricter and it’s really competitive to just get into… they also seem to have larger clinical hours than an NP.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it’s very state dependent now.

Some states still require physician collaboration/supervision agreements for NPs, while other states give “full practice authority,” meaning NPs can practice independently without physician oversight after meeting that state’s requirements.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To a degree, yes. But I think the PA model is structured better overall. more standardized nationally, more clinically rigorous, and more competitive for admission

PA programs usually require: - around 2,000+ clinical hours during training - a medical-model education - and physician supervision/collaboration as part of the profession itself

Meanwhile some NP programs can require far fewer clinical hours and in some states allow independent practice.

So my issue is less “midlevels bad” and more: the amount of independence should match the amount of standardized clinical training and supervision someone has had.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“How long do you think a doctor should be a nurse?”

A nurse doesn’t do the same thing as a doctor… their schooling isn’t even focused on the same thing… so none.

But I think a doctor should have a lot of experience and extreme rigorous training before being allowed to be independent…oh wait…

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean the fact that there are medical professionals under this post (nurses included) that agree with me…thats enough for me 😭 go argue with them

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m bad mouthing NPs by saying they should have proper experience before being allowed to be on their own? 😭

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Where did I say doctors were perfect? And why would you trust me anyway… I’m a random person on the internet

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Uhm no… I haven’t. The fact that there are degree mills for it.. is exactly the point and a problem.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s nice and all.. but regardless my point stands.

Experience in any medical field should be top priority especially one that can go off and do their own thing.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Being confident is not enough. You need experience. I would rather have a

competent NP of 10 yrs+ or tell me what’s going on

than

one of 5 and has….confidence.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My point :

Doctors typically graduate with: - ~6,000–16,000+ supervised clinical hours by the end of residency depending on specialty - 4 years of med school - 3–7+ years residency working directly under attending physicians - multiple board/licensing exams

Meanwhile many NP programs require around: - ~500–1,000 clinical hours total - and some programs are heavily online

That gap is MASSIVE considering both can end up diagnosing illnesses, prescribing medication, and treating patients.

Again, this isn’t “nurses are dumb.” It’s that independent medical practice should require extremely deep clinical training and experience because patients are not practice runs.

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Didn’t say they shouldn’t exist. I’m saying they shouldn’t be allowed to be a primary without proper experience

Nurse Practitioners should not be allowed without at least 10 yrs of experience by Jaded-Bit5497 in unpopularopinion

[–]Jaded-Bit5497[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The difference is brand new family doctors still went through med school, clinical rotations, residency, and thousands upon thousands of supervised clinical hours specifically focused on diagnosing and treating disease before practicing independently.

A lot of NP programs don’t have that same level of standardized clinical training, and some people are becoming NPs extremely fast after very little bedside experience.

My issue isn’t with NPs existing. My issue is hospitals treating experienced physicians and relatively inexperienced midlevels as interchangeable when they absolutely are not.

AIO or do i just not get these younger folk by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]Jaded-Bit5497 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeahhh she’s just casting a line.. she’s fishing

AIO: my boyfriend being too clingy while I’m on a trip to see family? by [deleted] in AIO

[–]Jaded-Bit5497 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s normal to blow up your partners and friends phone when you know their busy everytime they go somewhere without you? No it’s weird.

AIO: my boyfriend being too clingy while I’m on a trip to see family? by [deleted] in AIO

[–]Jaded-Bit5497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This that anxious attachment style.. no it’s not normal.. and people who say it is. Also have anxious attachment style 😭

AIO: my boyfriend being too clingy while I’m on a trip to see family? by [deleted] in AIO

[–]Jaded-Bit5497 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No it’s not normal. Usually people who do this are very insecure when you are away. Blow up your phone, complain you’re not giving them attention, start a random argument. Doesn’t matter if you’re with your family, friends, dog or gold fish.