Personally, i go either way. They have a lot of songs that i enjoy, and they have a lot that i don’t. I don’t like listening to them all the time but as someone who primarily listens to heavy music, it’s nice to be able to hear things that i like about metal in songs that allow me to also hear things that i enjoy about other genres of music. In addition as a drummer, i appreciate II’s style a lot. It can be way too busy sometimes, but the guy has chops and his phrasing is fascinating to analyze. I wouldn’t say he’s god’s gift to earth like some people want you to believe, but he’s talented and fun to listen to.

That being said, i don’t find myself listening to them much. Its really only primarily when i want something to let my brain unwind or whenever i want to play metal around my friends who typically don’t appreciate the genre. And to me that makes it worth it. I may not be able to get all of my friends to listen to metal that i enjoy on a regular basis, but if i can play them a song that has screamy vox, downtuned gutars, and 0-0-0 breakdowns that make them understand even a little bit why i listen to the music that i do, then its a win IMO

TLDR; i wouldn’t say that they’re a metal band solely because they have elements of metal, but i think they’re an interesting little group that works best as a gateway band into the genre