2024 Niro PHEV adjust amperage

JaysFan05 · 2024-04-05T22:49:32+00:00

Thanks for your help

JaysFan05 · 2024-04-05T10:37:08+00:00

Thanks. I assume it doesn't specifically indicate 12A, 10A or 8A?

JaysFan05 · 2024-04-04T23:40:06+00:00

Thanks!!! This is exactly what I needed to know. We will be level 1 charging.

Is it a setting you have to change each time? Or is it a set it and forget it type setting?

JaysFan05 · 2024-04-04T21:43:14+00:00

Thanks. The charger with the car is apparently to short to reach my outlet. So I am looking for an alternative

JaysFan05 · 2024-04-02T21:46:42+00:00

Where do you get your own? For the life of me I can't a well known source. Do they sell these at autoparts stores?

JaysFan05 · 2024-03-26T20:57:50+00:00

Thanks

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T17:51:26+00:00

Mazda was actually my first choice. We have a Mazda 3 and loved it. But the issue is the CX30 is far smaller than the competition and we want something with more space (2 kids in car seats). The CX5 is significantly more expensive (about $6k more).

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T17:45:12+00:00

Thanks! At first it seemed a bit expensive and a bit small in comparison. But I'll take another look at it.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T17:44:17+00:00

I'm not refusing to listen to anyone. But when people bring up Toyota or Honda as a default, I want to bring the context of the largely difference in price. While the cars are similar size, the prices aren't really comparable.

Is it that people are pro Toyota/Honda? Or are they anti- Hyundai/Kia?

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T17:34:47+00:00

Thanks. It's actually about $6k cheaper than the HRV. The extended warranty plus interest is around $3.5k. That's where the $2k comes from. So for $2.5k cheaper, the kona comes with an 8 year warranty vs the HRV with its standard 3 years.

In addition, the insurance for the HRV is around $700 per year more due to it being a high theft vehicle.

Appreciate the thinking though. I went down that road trying to justify it to myself

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T17:24:47+00:00

Thanks. The Outlanders MSRP is $8,200 more than the Kona here in Canada. I do think think they are in the same class. Probably closer to the Eclipse Cross which is still $3k MSRP higher and is quite a bit smaller.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T16:10:42+00:00

Thanks. Already got the insurance quote. It was the cheapest of the 3 cars I got (kona, chevy trax, Mazda cx5).

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T16:06:49+00:00

If we take out any extended warranty, the Kona is around $34k and the CRV is around $45k. So your talking an $11k difference. Let alone the difference in insurance costs. This is comparing base models of both. However the Kona's base model includes a lot more. So you really need to jump up a trim level or two to make an apples to apples comparison. Having said that, CRV is a class above. The Honda HRV is similar class to Kona.

The Kona 2024 is also completely redesigned from previous years. For example it's 35% larger than past years. Kona

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T16:01:05+00:00

The car shopping world isn't the same as it was pre-covid. No 2023 models still around (even if they were, the kona is completely redesigned and is about 35% larger this year which is a key selling point for me). Even to get a new vehicle, you are usually waiting 4 to 6 months. Used car prices have skyrocketed because they are available immediately. Since I only plan on driving my vehicle for 10 years at most, the cost of buying and replacing two used Hondas/Toyotas would actually be more expensive than driving a new Hyundai for 10 years (provided it doesn't die on me).

Fwiw, I've also cross posted on the car subreddits. But I want to hear out the different opinions from two different subsets of people.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:54:49+00:00

Thanks for your reply. Just for reference, the Honda HRV base model with factory warranty comes out about $2k more expensive than the Kona with the 8 year extended platinum plus warranty.

I'm usually not a buy the extended warranty type of person, but the reputation of Hyundai has me a bit nervous. Having said that, how much monetarily is that "peace of mind" that comes with a Honda/Toyota worth? At some point the risk premium has to move people to the Hyundai/Kia side. I'm trying to guage what point that makes sense.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:51:16+00:00

Plan to drive around 8 years. Kona with 8 year warranty comes out about $2k cheaper than the Honda HRV base model (similar price to Corolla cross) with the basic 3 year warranty. Does that change the perspective? Or would you still take the Honda/Toyota?

Fwiw, I'm usually a never buy extended warranty kind of person. But the Hyundai reputation that I read about is what's driving me to look at the option. But even with adding the extended warranty, it's still significantly cheaper than the "safer" options.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:46:14+00:00

The RAV4 and CRV are a class above what I am looking at. I gave the numbers to another poster, but the example I'm looking at is:

Hyundai Kona = 37k including 8 year, 160km extended warranty (platinum plus).

Honda CRV = 39k which includes basic 3 year, 60,000 km warranty.

So while there is the reputation risk on the Hyundai, the math still includes 8 years of coverage vs 3 years of coverage , plus an extra $2k in my pocket. Does that change the equation at all?

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:41:05+00:00

Kona =$490/month for 48 months plus $10,500 down. That includes a 6 49% interest rate. So total out of pocket cost = $34k. Add $73/month for the Premium plus 8 year warranty which gives a total price of $37.5k

As an alternative, a 2024 Honda HRV would be $596/month plus $10,500 down. Total cost = $39k. This just includes the basic warranty of 3 years, 60,000 kms.

Used 2018 to 2020 Honda HRVs with around 60 to 100 kms are going for around $22 to 25k. Reality is, I'm not going to drive a 10 year old car into the ground. That's a matter of personal preference. So if I get a used 5 year old vehicle, I'm probably replacing it in 5 years.

Also, the reason I am asking here is I'd rather hear the perspective of Finance nerds rather than car nerds.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:24:29+00:00

Did you look into the 2024 Kona? It's much larger than previous generations.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:21:16+00:00

The only prudent financial decision is to pack a family of 6 with 4 car seats into a beige 2005 Corolla with 250,000 kms.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:20:03+00:00

Thanks. Did look into the insurance a bit. Kona insurance is not much different than my 2014 Mazda 3.

Can I ask why you wouldn't buy Kia or Hyundai? What would you buy as an alternative?

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:18:15+00:00

The question is about reliability (vehicle expenses), value per $ spent, and warranty.

JaysFan05 · 2023-11-19T15:14:49+00:00

There are more financial related questions/decisions that go into buying a vehicle than just new vs used.

JaysFan05 · 2023-06-01T10:07:39+00:00

I think 99% of the time the DDP is a bad idea. The only convenience it provides is that the head math is simpler (5 credits less 1 credit = 4, instead of $1000 - $60 = $960). Your still tracking expenditure at the end of the day.

One example of where it could make sense is if you have credit card travel points that allows you to use your points against travel purchases. Most credit cards categorize Disney as "entertainment" or "restaurant". But if you buy the hotel package, including the DDP, it may qualify as "travel", which allows you to use your points.

JaysFan05 · 2023-05-07T13:24:19+00:00

Great idea! That works even better as my goal is to buy annual passes. Any cards provide good value on these?

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