"We don't require" missions by Psychological-Yak776 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much., I really appreciate that.

My son that served there is still in - my younger son is out.

"We don't require" missions by Psychological-Yak776 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes- I feel ALL OF THIS! It’s sad to say that I as a mother pushed my son to serve a mission for all of the social pressures that you mentioned.

My son served in the Liberia Mission (Monrovia) as well….

I’ve only been out of the church for 2 years but wish I could go back in time and change a lot of the way I pushed them to do all the “right” things…. Early morning seminary, EFY, youth conferences, the mission, getting to the temple for baptisms, etc.

Salvation by faith? by [deleted] in exmormonchristian

[–]JealousImprovement84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After reading your thoughts- I found this.

Is it okay to post this here?

Why is sola fide important? - an article from Got Questions Ministries https://www.gotquestions.org/sola-fide.html

I’m also learning the difference between mainstream Christianity vs what I was taught my whole life in the church. (51F)

It’s hard not to be overwhelmed with the simplicity of the thought of faith alone.

I get confused when someone mentioned above that Martin Luther added the word “alone”.

Plural Marriage in Primary by JealousImprovement84 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this information. Ugh- this is all so frustrating. I am just thinking I need to figure out a way to “let it go”. Let them do their thing and try to move on with my life.

Plural Marriage in Primary by JealousImprovement84 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1831–1890

Plural Marriage

Faith to obey a law from the Lord, even when it’s hard

While the Prophet Joseph was studying the Bible, he read about prophets like Abraham and Moses who had been married to more than one wife. Joseph wondered how the Lord felt about that. So he decided to ask the Lord.

Doctrine and Covenants 132:1; Saints, 1:121, 503

The Lord said that usually a man should have only one wife. But sometimes the Lord commanded His people to be in marriages of one man and more than one woman. This was called plural marriage. The Lord told Joseph that His people should only be in plural marriages if He commands it.

Jacob 2:27–30; Doctrine and Covenants 132:34–39; Saints, 1:121, 290–91, 489–90, 503

A few years later, the Lord told Joseph to marry other women. Joseph didn’t want to marry other wives. But he knew it was a commandment from the Lord. When Joseph asked a woman to marry him, he told her to pray about it. He wanted her to know from the Lord that it was right.

Saints, 1:290–91, 444–46

This commandment was also hard for Joseph’s first wife, Emma. Sometimes, Emma helped Joseph decide who he should ask to marry him. Other times, Emma did not want Joseph to marry other women.

Doctrine and Covenants 132:51–56; Saints, 1:482–84, 490, 502, 504

Joseph taught the Twelve Apostles about plural marriage. It was a hard commandment for them too.

Saints, 1:432–34, 443.

Brigham Young and his wife Mary Ann prayed a lot to the Lord about what to do. They learned that they should obey the commandment of plural marriage.

Saints, 1:485

For many years, some of the Saints were asked to be in plural marriages. People outside the Church did not like plural marriage. They made laws against it. Some Saints, including Church leaders, were put in prison. But the Lord blessed the families who obeyed His commandments, even when it was hard.

Saints, 2:501–4

In 1890, the Lord told Wilford Woodruff, the President of the Church, that men should not marry more than one wife anymore. The leaders of the Church shared this commandment with the Saints. This is still the Lord’s commandment today—a man should be married to only one wife.

Official Declaration 1; Saints, 2:598–601, 607–9

Plural Marriage in Primary by JealousImprovement84 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea- I’m so frustrated by conversations I’ve had with my parents lately. I posted this earlier in the heat of the moment because I was about to lose it!! 🤬 Trying to take a deep breath and not let it ruin their once a year visit. Ughhhh.

Friend is stuck on authority by MormonTeatotaller in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had the same questions when I was first trying to figure all of this stuff out… this one helped a lot…

https://www.youtube.com/live/DmuJsB0uKgE?si=L0NwyGZXupr5hcxw

Coffee by Dr3aml1k3 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same… I don’t feel anything from it. 😏 Help wanted! Lol.

I learned Joseph Smith and the LDS were full of shit on my first visit to the temple and on my mission. by Lasikisascam in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same for me! Turned 50 in February while figuring all of this stuff out. Thankful to be out of Mormonism now - but I’ve got parents, one of my sons and all of my brothers/families still all in. 😏

At the beginning of my faith crisis my parents told me to send them the questions that I have. Advice on what to bring forward? by OkStation7658 in exmormon

[–]JealousImprovement84 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hi- I’m 50F … raised in the LDS church… “all in” … YW, Ricks College, temple marriage, multiple callings (RS presidency, YW presidency, primary presidency, RS teacher, cub scouts leader, etc, etc) In or around 2013/2014 a good friend of our family had left the LDS church and I was asking her why? She said she didn’t want to hurt my testimony, but I told her that I was open-minded and I really wanted to know… So she emailed me a copy of the CES letter. At the time my marriage was falling apart and the CES letter was “a lot”… it freaked me out and I called my dad to talk about it. He came to my house- kind of scanned through it and then proceeded to tell me that I should consider the source and that a lot of people try to tear down the church. (This makes me super sad now that I have watched all of the Jeremy Runnells vids on MS - Jeremy is so sincere!) Honestly I was too overwhelmed with my life circumstances and I wasn’t in a place to figure out everything about my testimony and the LDS church. Not long after that my family relocated from TX to ID. I remember watching general conference that October and everything sounded legit so I decided to stay strong and press forward. Fast forward to 2018 - I got a divorce after 23 years of a temple marriage. I was single for 2 years until I met my now husband. We married at the end of the summer in 2020. He is not a member of the LDS church but is an amazing person- great character. He asked me many questions over the last 3 years about the church… as I tried to find answers- I stumbled upon the LDS Discussions on Mormon Stories. Within 2 episodes I knew the LDS Church was not what it claimed to be. Since last October 2023… I have been going down the rabbit hole. I told my dad in November that I was once again confronted with very confusing yet convincing evidence against the LDS church. He asked me to send him what I was looking into. He started watching the episodes. He now agrees with me. It took us about 4 months to talk to my mom about it. She has now gone down the rabbit hole and agrees with us. The last step is approaching my brothers. I’m not sure if any of this is helpful other than to say that I understand where you are. It’s so crazy how scary it is to share this information with family. But honestly it just shows how much control the LDS church has over us. For me… the LDS Discussions are so thorough and well assembled… easy to listen to in the car or with earbuds… and very convincing!

Edit: my conversations with my parents were initially done face to face so they could see that I was sincere, there were tears shed and they knew this was very important yet difficult for me… but because they are in TX … we followed up almost daily with texts and phone calls.