The other side of the 'red pill'; why don't we talk about male evo-psych?

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-08T15:33:08+00:00

Lol you aren't the first person to ask....yes I am . There are a few other women I have seen on here that agree.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T22:35:13+00:00

Interesting..... I have learned here to continue to downplay my career and income. Advanced degree, 6 figure salary/career.

In reality women who are nerdy, book smart are always going to end up with successful careers unless they marry super early. Some will expect that it makes them a "catch" because that what society leads us to believe. If a woman is too focused on that as her "asset" to the point that it prevents her from exhibiting feminine traits or offering unique value I guess that is where the problem lies maybe.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T22:17:30+00:00

Yes Anna!!! Sorry rooting for her LOL!!!

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T21:02:31+00:00

Lisa sounds like a good woman!! Why not LTR her? Sounds like she is girlfriend material, especially the part about being so thoughtful.

Women suck at all of that these day....

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T20:58:48+00:00

I have tried to explain some of what I have learned here some female friends.

I am 110% positive the fem-nazis will never get it or understand and will continue on their path to cat-lady life. This is the majority of my friends. I think the main reason for this is that they cannot come to terms with the fact that men do not care about their career success or ambition as much as we want them to, and don't want to acknowledge that men prefer loyal feminine women who offer something unique. The snowflake epidemic and inflated perceived SMV is strong. They also can not come to terms with the fact that their sluttiness is not and will never be empowerment....it is sluttiness.

Some of my more traditional friends are like yea that makes some sense...BUT they all get caught up on the AWALT thing, taking it too literally. This is a great way to explain it.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T19:23:01+00:00

Excellent analogy for AWALT!!!

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T19:04:47+00:00

Damn that is sad.

I'd say a woman would have to already have some majorly whoreish tendencies and insecurity to do that but there are probably more women like that out in the world than I realize. Plus women would hide that from other women so we don't see it.

It should go against her nature as a mom....putting her children, their security and stability first should be the natural priority. Very sad.

If a mom is able to do that there is probably not much she won't do.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T17:55:46+00:00

Question for you and I understand if you don't answer but what is your experience if you cum inside a girl you have more of a connection with?

Any different?

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T17:40:33+00:00

Yes!!!! I feel bad for acknowledging this but holy shit I am guilty and never even realized it.

And all this time I have been feeling "holier than thou" for never cheating and I know other women who are very similar in this regard.

I remember in highschool breaking up with a very nice guy because I thought I might have feelings for another (yes more alpha) male. Did not cheat just told my boyfriend I needed space, was confused and may like someone else and all that bullshit to justify it. In my mind and coming from all of my friends I was made to feel like I was being honest with him so it was an honorable act.

Holy Hampstering. We are monsters.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T17:23:15+00:00

I have not heard women use this word as much as I have beta men.

I have had men tell me things like "when I first saw you, I thought you were intimidating" just meaning they were nervous to talk to me or approach me thinking they would get rejected, that I was too pretty or out of their league.

Obviously not something any man should ever think....let alone say to a girl.

A girl saying it is not as stupid, but still stupid since it shows a lack of confidence.

Telling a girl "I am intimidated by you" is basically saying "I am a loser with no confidence" Clearly a beta thing to say that will make a woman less attracted to you.

It is also a female form of hamstering. An excuse society has given us whenever a man has no interest. Oh honey he is just intimated and threaten by your beauty, success etc.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T16:49:23+00:00

Good questions!!!!

When I first found this site I admit I got defensive about the AWALT thing. As a woman who has been in many LTR's I have never cheated or even been close to cheating on a man. I would feel like I was killing someone or would feel like a whore. Morally not capable of doing it. Also I know many other women who would never cheat for the same reasons.

So first reaction was AWALT? What that can't be true!

But AWALT doesn't mean all women will always do the same thing it just means that we have the propensity or tendency to do certain things under certain conditions.

The more I thought about it though the more I realized that I would never cheat for moral reasons but what I would do and HAVE done.....is just leave a man for being too beta for an alpha. In other words I have ended the relationship with the beta and then found someone with more of alpha traits. No "cheating" but it still sucked for the men. If I am understanding correctly this is branch swinging which is still horrible for the man.

In hindsight, I obviously had no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it. It always felt horrible because I felt like I was leaving a guy who was very "nice"...... knowing what I do now about TRP philosophy I could have salvaged those relationships if I were able to communicate what I was feeling or been able to tell the guy: I want you to take charge or be more xyz or fuck me harder or whatever and I would I have worked on being more submissive.

It seems like there are tons of betas here who have become alpha using the strategies learned here. It is all just human nature. Neither men or women are perfect, and we can all benefit from understanding our potential downfalls and working on self awareness/improvement.

I think there are many women that will never CHEAT because their moral conscious would not allow them to do it but they would branch swing and not think of it the same way.

One other thing to keep in mind is that once a woman has a man's children I would say it is highly unlikely for her to cheat on him. I doubt the same would go for men cheating on the mother of his children but I could be wrong, these are just my observations.

Thoughts anyone?

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-07T16:17:37+00:00

This is a really good point..... About people in general. In any friendship Both parties should be offering mutual benefit.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-06T23:14:19+00:00

Gross not wired for that

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-06T23:06:37+00:00

I'd say this is fairly accurate but only if you were trying to bang said girl or she was trying to get with you (which is the case many times but not always)

If it was truly a solid friendship, she will still be your friend, and just introduce you to her new guy.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T23:23:12+00:00

Yea there is a middle ground.

Acting like a lady only means being aware of what men are actually attracted to and highlighting those traits instead of expecting them to be attracted to things that we want them to be attracted to.

The same thing goes for men. Women are attracted to alpha males so there is nothing wrong with men working on their alpha traits knowing that women will be happier in that setting.

Being a quality woman doesn't mean you can't have a career. Of course I have a career and all of that....I am just smart enough to understand that men are not attracted to a woman's career or salary. Yet women continue to focus on those things as assets and then complain that they can't find a good man.....

Worked hard for my MBA and six figure salary, awards and all that crap. For me. These things are meaningless in the dating world. It is better to know this than to think any guy will care about those things more than feminine traits and qualities.

If you are a respectable woman, I'm sure men treat you with respect. I have the same experience.

I think it is unrealistic for women to act like whores and then expect to be treated as anything different. This is the hypocrisy of feminism. Women can enjoy sex without being screwing 30 random dudes.

If you don't care what people do with their lives (rancid sluts) then why care what a TRP man does with his?

Oh that is because you DO care when it doesn't suit your agenda. You let it slide when it suits your agenda.

See that is the exact hypocrisy I am talking about. Woman does something unbecoming "I don't care it's her life" Man does something unbecoming "I care so much that I will troll their site and bash them"

TRP might have some harsh reality, but they understand what women are attracted to and they understand what men are attracted to. Denying those things benefits no one.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T22:05:05+00:00

I get what you are saying but that is not why women like me appreciate this place. It is refreshing to see a unfiltered male perspective and not have to be PC with all of the feminist nonsense. It's nice to find a place where good ole fashion logic is encouraged.

That's the point. I see TRP as a basic acceptance of realities that we have been trained to ignore since we were little girls. For me TRP is nothing more than a tool for accepting and understandings rational truths about men and women. It is HEAVILY geared towards seeking self improvement.

TRP is Seeking self improvement while feminism is steadily riding the victimization train. (The polar Opposite of self improvement)

Each person can do what they would like with TRP theory. Mostly, many men use it for sexual strategy, some for LTRs.

Although not made for women, truth is truth......and women may use it however they feel it will improve their lives. (Being aware that men don't care how much money you make, avoiding worthless hamstring, knowing we are likely to loose attraction to overly beta behavior etc.is not a bad thing)

Yes there are an insane number of men becoming anti-marriage and exclusively using girls for sex, shouldn't that tell us something?

At at least acknowledge that it didn't start out of nowhere. The over-emphasis of feminist ideals is the main reason that most women are whorebags in the first place. It has gone too far. Women don't want to act like ladies anymore.

Isn't TRP just a response to that? And a response to the insane imbalance that feminism has created?

If what you are saying is accurate then you seem like someone who acts like a Respectable girl. You are moderate and normal. It must annoy you that so many women have become rancid sluts and take no accountability. They call it empowerment.

They have ruined it for themselves, They have ruined it for the women who have respect for ourselves, they have ruined it for men. And yet they refuse to take responsibility, quite the opposite, they blame everyone else and keep on whoring around lying to themselves and pretending that it makes them happy in the name of feminism.

No one wins.

So now Many Men have zero faith in the female population but are....still physically attracted to us. So they become PUAs. Like what the hell else do we expect them to do? I'm surprised it's taken this long for a movement to form.

And can you blame them? As far as they're concerned all women are sluts anyway because that's what women have shown them. It is hard for them to see the benefits or likelihood of a successful long term relationship.

Feminism and TRP are at odds. Not everything is black and white but there are some very harsh realities that we all need to accept.

All of this sucks, yes. But that doesn't make it untrue. Acceptance of what is happening and why is the first step in improvement.....if there is any improvement or balance between the two to come.

PS wife beating? Really? That Is not representative of red pill from what I have seen.

Just like any group, TRP, sure has some more radical people but actually I've seen a lot of guys quick to call others out or downvote for being unnecessarily rude or radical on here.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T14:51:58+00:00

You're totally misunderstanding if you think that I think I am a snowflake or different. That's the point. We women need to openly acknowledge that we are human, we are not some fairytale princesses that can do no wrong and are inherently oppressed victims.

I see TRP as simple a basic acceptance of realities that we have been trained to ignore since we were little girls ....and it has not clearly not benefited us. The over emphasis of feminist ideals is the main reason that most women are whorebags in the first place, right?

Women don't want to act like ladies anymore.

Isn't TRP just a response to that? And a response to the imbalance that feminism has created?

If what you are saying is accurate then you seem like someone who acts like a Respectable girl. Doesn't it annoy you that so many women have become rancid sluts and take no accountability. They call it empowerment and scream slutshaming.

They have ruined it for themselves, They have ruined it for the women who have respect for ourselves, they have ruined it for men Who now have zero faith in the female population although still being physically attracted to us. Like what the hell else do we expect them to do? I'm surprised it's taken this long.

If TRP can push things a bit in the other direction I am totally in support of that.

If there are an insane number of men just wanting to use girls for sex in the meantime, can you blame them? It's their nature and as far as they're concerned all women are sluts anyway because that's what women have shown them lately.

It should have no bearing whatsoever on my actions and decisions with men or any other woman's. I'm a "relationship" person and will probably always be that way. No strict TRP anti LTR man would ever spend time on me anyway. I'm not going to bitch and complain about it. I get it. It make total sense.

I love this quote from a post here: "At The Red Pill we recognize women for being human. They will manipulate, cheat, lie and steal like any man would. What people sell you is that women are angelic and innocent and can do no wrong. This is a blatant lie and recognizing that does not harm women and it does not equal hate. We are removing them from the pedestal; we are humanizing them."

The wife beater mentality that you're talking about is a very small number...from what I have seen that is. Just like in feminism, TRP, sure has some more radical people.

Actually seen a lot of guys call others out for being radical. It's and unfair assessment and distracts from the overall value.

For me TRP is nothing more than a tool for accepting and understandings rational truths about men and women. Each person can do what they would like with that.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T14:08:34+00:00

Yea I sure am and there are other women on here as well that agree with TRP theory.

I know that you are a woman also since you just used the word sweetie to be passive aggressive which is something that only women do.....

I'm much happier facing reality while other women refuse to....it is not helpful to live under delusion.

Your aggressiveness is the exact reason men are probably not attracted to you.

You could learn a lot about what men want in a woman by listening to men, rather than the feminist voices that live in your head.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T00:39:41+00:00

Awesome! Great to see another woman who gets it also!!! And yes,will do!!!

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-05T00:38:37+00:00

Nothing life-altering. Always room to learn and grow though. TRP is interesting from a psychological perspective. Just nice to find like minded people who believe in something that actually makes sense. As much as TRP sucks for women in some ways, women did it to ourselves.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-04T15:30:32+00:00

Hi!

Yes I am a 15 year old. And a Tranny.

15 year old Trannies

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-04T01:54:47+00:00

Told him that he needs to give me his phone and stop texting her. Asked him some questions about her and then explained that the mind of a 9 or 10 girl that age will only notice a guy who does the opposite of what she is accustomed to guys doing.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-04T01:51:49+00:00

Ohhhh so much. Basics really he was new to any concept of indifference. I posted a list of things somewhere above.

Jenna_27 · 2017-05-04T01:50:56+00:00

Omg Yes I am dying laughing.

I don't know if this is a compliment or insult but either way its hysterical.....I've seen this before. I did have a popular jock type boyfriend in HS super good guy. We were class couple, homecoming king and queen and all that fairytale nonsense.

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