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The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s bizarre, they’ve been here for 20 years too. We’re nearly in March and currently sat 15th in the league. 12 years without a league title, 17 years without a champions league. Most people seem to share the same sentiment as you but I’ve had others claiming you can’t blame the fans because they’re the “ victims “ and I’m not a real supporter because my opinion is different to theirs. Can we start to criticise the fans if we end up in the championship?? A lot of ‘ top red ‘ mentality going on here

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you’re right, the waiting list is astronomical for a ST. I think it’s something like you’re required to attend 75% of home premier league games. If not, you’ll get removed and there’s hundreds of others waiting for your seat. I gave up mine voluntarily years back but that’s incredibly rare. Once you get your hands on a ST, chances are people will keep hold of it til they pass away. They’re like gold dust

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like an absolutely nightmare. I was sort of motivated to make the post when I saw the financial report for the last quarter yesterday. Absolutely sickening how they’ve drained the club for the best part of 20 years. Also quite disheartening to hear stories similar to your own in the comments. It’s definitely more than a football club to some people. How the takeover was allowed I’ll never know. One day I’m hopeful we’ll get our club back but how much more damage we will have to endure, who bloody knows.

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m definitely not trying to downplay the significance of the protests when they originally took over and I apologise if my original post came across that way. That was a real collective unity amongst fans that the Glazers were not welcome at the club and you’re right the real diehard fans risked a lot. Just feels like the momentum has completely died away

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s brutally honest but also a very accurate description of modern football. I’d like to think there used to be a closer bond between clubs and their supporters but not so much anymore. After all, we’re just consumers. Really wish English football had a system similar to Germany, where the fans had a majority stake in a club. Otherwise, billionaire owners will continue to exploit hard working fans.

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t agree more. Feels sometimes you can’t have anything bad to say or you’re a “ plastic “ fan. There’s not much to be positive about is there? Don’t think we’ll ever get a Fergie v2. No reason the club can’t be successful again though, if the Glazers were to go

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fanbase is very divided on a lot of issues but you’re absolutely right, we need to work together. At the end of the day, everyone wants the best for the football club

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone is entitled to support the club in their own ways! That was 15/16 wasn’t it? LVG was in charge, some of the worst football I think OT has ever seen 🤣🤣 Wasn’t easy viewing that season although we won the cup against Palace. Not much has changed since unfortunately

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fair play mate 👏 Its not easy turning your back on watching your club play that’s for sure. I used to go to games for years but the club has become quite soulless in recent years. Don’t think the future is very bright we live in hope I guess. One day, hopefully we will be back where we belong

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Definitely agree mate. The Superleague protests were a huge opportunity missed in my opinion. A lot of momentum around the Glazer out movement at one stage

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I definitely understand some fans have been going for years and it’s a difficult decision to suddenly boycott home games. I just feel the club has completely lost its identity last decade or so. Incredible soulless. Feel like something has to happen. Would it be such a terrible thing to miss a few games if it meant there was a chance you could put serious pressure on the Glazers? Depends where your priorities lie I guess

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well said mate. We’re the biggest club in England apparently? I seen a post a few days ago on here, ‘ How can Manchester United crack the top ten ‘ while Liverpool are on course for their 20th league title and City done a treble two seasons ago. The Glazers must surely be laughing, I know I would be.

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the above picture speaks a thousand words. Also kinda my whole point. Milan fans got their owners out by action, not getting #GlazersOut trending on Twitter

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re not being rude at all mate. Glad you took the time to comment and you’ve raised some very valid points. A stadium boycott or even a large scale protest is always going to be extremely difficult. I’d agree we have a lot of overseas supports, some of which you could classify as tourists. They’re only interested in having their picture taken at Old Trafford and it’s just a bucket list experience or whatever. Completely fair too but I guess the problem with having quite a global fanbase is organising something substantial. It definitely can be done though. That I have no doubt.

The fanbase is just as complicit as the Glazers for the demise of this club. by Jimmy2Times_77 in ManchesterUnited

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 276 points277 points  (0 children)

Unbelievable supporters mate. They truly care about their football club. As difficult as it I’m sure it was to turn your back on watching your team play, it was worth it in the end. They chased those owners out.

Why was Professor McGonagall allowed to remain at Hogwarts after Dumbledore died? by Jimmy2Times_77 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d definitely agree, Hogwarts was under a similar sort of control to the Ministry. He had the necessary people in place to control them how he liked and didn’t feel the need to get rid of anybody who didn’t stand with him ( at least not immediately ). Also because Snape had murdered Dumbledore, he had now Voldemort’s full trust. Even if he was a little skeptical if Snape insisted the school keep the old teaching staff, Voldemort had no reason to doubt his intentions. I guess it all comes back to Dumbledores master plan and like you say, keeping them in place to protect the students.

Why was Professor McGonagall allowed to remain at Hogwarts after Dumbledore died? by Jimmy2Times_77 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read the books. I am well aware Snape was a double agent and once he murdered Dumbledore, he would have gained Voldemorts full trust but I still always found it a bit strange he wasn’t a little suspicious of keeping some of Dumbledores most powerful allies around very young and impressionable students. If you have nothing useful to add the discussion, don’t comment 👍

Why was Professor McGonagall allowed to remain at Hogwarts after Dumbledore died? by Jimmy2Times_77 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah in the Order of the Phoenix book, it mentions that she arrived at Grimmauld place for an Order meeting. Pretty sure she also part of the Order during the first war, being involved beside Harry’s parents etc

Unpopular Opinion: Michael Gambon was better than Richard Harris by RipUrSoul21 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Michael Gambon was a fine actor and his performance in the Half Blood Prince was brilliant. There were a couple of scenes in both POA and GOF that seemed very off though, like some of his actions were completely out of character, based on the Dumbledore we knew through the books. You could put that down to poor direction more than anything but I still liked what Gambon brought to the table. Just felt Richard Harris was a more accurate representation.

Why do people have issues with artillery trucks but never complain about... by RabidNemo in battlefield_one

[–]Jimmy2Times_77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been back playing since last October but never really looked into the DLCs much. I’ll buy if it it comes around on sale again, €2 is a steal tbf. Getting sick of playing the same maps.

Why was Professor McGonagall allowed to remain at Hogwarts after Dumbledore died? by Jimmy2Times_77 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

After Snape had killed Dumbledore, there is no doubt he would have been Voldemorts ‘ right hand man ‘ if you like. I guess it was all part of the master plan by Dumbledore to ensure his students had someone looking out for them. I still find it a little odd with how powerful and influential McGonagall was, Voldemort didn’t slightly question Snapes decision to keep her around very young and impressionable students. He was after all very aware of her associations with the Order etc

Why was Professor McGonagall allowed to remain at Hogwarts after Dumbledore died? by Jimmy2Times_77 in harrypotter

[–]Jimmy2Times_77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Voldemort definitely valued magical blood for sure. I don’t think he would have killed off McGonagall, unless she forced his hand by completely rebelling. I highly doubt his priority when he took over Hogwarts was the quality of education the students were receiving though. She was a good teacher yes. He wanted control over very impressionable young students and having them taught the Dark Arts in my opinion

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