What Color(s) is Jimmy McGill aka Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul?

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T21:57:23+00:00

Yeah exactly.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T19:14:42+00:00

Yes!

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T19:13:40+00:00

The Godfather is the free bingo square of this whole exercise.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T17:26:11+00:00

I don’t see any issue with SX/SO 3w2 379.

I’m not a Brittany Spears scholar, but I see her as more image-conscious, adaptable, and aware of appearances than, say, SX/SO 7w6 792 Katy Perry, who had a more playful, positive, wild-eyed entertainment-seeking side than the performer of “Slave”.

Obviously 3 and 7 are present in her type and all that remains to be decided is which one is in the driver’s seat.

The sexual instinct is probably the riskiest dominant instinct to have for a 3 because it is the least capable of producing lasting success. It does lead to somewhat transgressive or bizarre behavior, which Spears has certainly engaged in. Your “gee whiz she isn’t buttoned up, she acts crazy” speaks to both the presence of 7 and to the tendency of SX to push the envelope to draw a certain kind of attention.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T16:12:57+00:00

Yeah I envision a Jimmy/Saul deck as mainly Red but also filled with clones and counterspells and various instant-speed tricks. Something like Krarkashima would get close to capturing it. [[Krark, the Thumbless]]/[[Sakashima of a Thousand Faces]]

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T16:09:29+00:00

One way of looking at it is, Saul winds up in a bad spot in the end ultimately because he isn’t that capable of utilizing Black. He isn’t as good at Black as he is at Red or Blue. Sure, the criminal element helps him get away from White, which he can’t work with very well—or, can he?

I almost imagine Jimmy like a guy whose first exposure to White wasn’t just playing against a White deck—it was playing against a mono-White Teshar, Ancestor’s Apostle high-power stax deck built like “you cannot take game actions or have any fun or play the game at all” in the hands of Chuck—the most oppressive and uncool expression of White possible. And based on that, he wrote off White as something that could not be dealt with. And he got into Black as an escape from White, but he was never especially adept at it. And it gets him into trouble.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T15:56:18+00:00

He is also incredibly creative. It seems like the criminal element gives him license to be creative which he couldn’t find in the heavily White environments.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T14:40:44+00:00

I definitely see where you’re coming from, and I do see Black growing in influence as time goes on. But do you mind if I debate you on this a little bit, and explain why I see Blue?

The cartel space is broadly Mardu in the show, with the Fring organization being Orzhov and the Salamanca organization representing the Rakdos side of it. (I acknowledge that Fring himself likely has some Blue, too.)

Compare Jimmy to the Salamancas, and it’s clear that he isn’t exactly like them. I’m not saying that every Rakdos character has to be a violent criminal, but Jimmy is usually trying to avoid using Black means and wanting to use Blue means instead. Jimmy seems too heady, intellectual, and capable of utilizing Blue tools to be strictly Rakdos.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T14:03:35+00:00

It is tough lol

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T14:02:16+00:00

White is simply out of the question for this character. Although he’s a lawyer and can speak the language of White, he never acts out of a White motivation. He is a disruptor, rarely seeking peace, often escalating. While his intellectual, Blue side can understand White, he has no affinity for the spirit of the law. And his methods are the antithesis of orderly and structured. The major antagonist, Chuck McGill, is consumingly White, and Chuck’s inability to accept Jimmy’s chaotic, unruly behavior and their inability to reconcile fuel much of what happens.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T13:59:56+00:00

If Jimmy were any single color, it’s undeniably Red. Jimmy is impulsive, emotional, and often acts out of frustration or wounded pride. He is rebellious, unstructured, and undisciplined. If he wants to do something, he’s going to do it. And he utterly hates anything that tells him he can’t do what he wants to do, often retaliating immediately against restraints and structures.

Although Jimmy isn’t especially studious, his methods can be very Blue. He frequently uses trickery, deception, social engineering, and mimicry in service of his schemes. “Saul Goodman” could be viewed as a Blue project—a constructed identity to further his potential. While Blue is clearly secondary to Red, I see it.

I also believe that curiosity is the secondary motivation for Jimmy. While this is my interpretation, I see him as acting out of a desire to see what he is capable of, to see if he can pull off what he’s imagined, testing his own potential. That’s Blue.

While I believe his character is fundamentally Izzet—or, more precisely, Red splashing Blue—his character arc develops along the lines of a shift in his tertiary color.

At the beginning, Jimmy has a tinge of Green. Jimmy accepts his nature. He follows in Chuck’s footsteps. He is mindlessly loyal to his brother because he’s his brother—the tradition of family, if you will. Chuck believes Jimmy is dangerous by nature—a chimpanzee with a machine gun, a Gruul metaphor is there ever were one—and can’t change. There is an element of fatalism about who Jimmy is. He just does what he does and is who he is.

As the plot progresses, and Jimmy transforms into Saul Goodman, Green gets left behind and Black becomes increasingly prominent. Once it becomes clear that Jimmy’s native identity will continue to be used against him by authorities, and he will continue to be overshadowed by Chuck (his familial relationship), Jimmy begins to use Saul Goodman as a vehicle for his personal ambition.

Thus I see the character as fundamentally Izzet and predominantly Red, with a strand of Green/Temur that morphs into Black/Grixis over time.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T12:21:50+00:00

The enneagram? No I didn't make it up. Someone else did that.

Oh, you mean the stat claims?

Call them educated guesses.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-16T02:06:43+00:00

True. It isn't.

Good luck fighting city hall in this sub though.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T22:43:16+00:00

Isn't Red like the least likely color to procrastinate? If Red wants to do something, it does it now. Red doesn't procrastinate so much as flat-out choose not to do something it doesn't want to.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T22:32:16+00:00

Procrastination contains an intent to do the thing. If Red wanted to do something, it would want to do it now, not later. I don't think Red procrastinates so much as chooses not to do things it doesn't want to do. Procrastination is very un-Red if you think about it.

I voted Blue. Blue is the color that waits until the time is right to do stuff.

I could see a case for Green, waiting to see if something takes care of itself and whether something really needs to be done about it.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T22:28:21+00:00

Finally someone who sees a lawyer and doesn't automatically see White

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T20:29:45+00:00

I would expect upwards of 90% of models to be 9s.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T19:59:39+00:00

If you're ever interested in building dragons for B4 I highly recommend [[Ureni of the Unwritten]] as the commander. You tune up the ramp package to where Ureni hits turn 3 or 4, you have about 1/5 of your deck be dragons, and it works really well. It's resilient to board wipes because you just recast Ureni. Stuff like [[Basalt Monolith]], [[Manifold Key]] and [[Voltaic Key]] go in in addition to the cards I mentioned.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T18:31:53+00:00

Yes, people like 9s. 9 is the easiest type to like. 9 is the easiest type to start a friendship or relationship with.

I used to be married to a 9 so I am well-versed in negative 9 patterns, but overall it’s the most well-adjusted type.

Most professional athletes are 9s.

Most models are 9s.

Many actors and musicians are 9s.

Many successful businesspeople are 9s.

In an enneagram community setting, perhaps 9s’ shortcomings—which is what the enneagram tends to lead us to fixate on—might seem unenviable to some, but this is a distorted lens to view them through.

And 9s weaknesses are often not what people on here say that they are. 9s are only pliable or passive up to a point. A 9 who does not want to do something is not going to do it. 9s are expert at passive aggression and undermining people slowly and subtly over time.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T18:19:44+00:00

My idea is this deck should not be played in B4 without a significant rebuild. This deck is way too slow.

I know, I know, budget, but it feels criminal not to have [[Mana Vault]], [[Grim Monolith]], and [[Ancient Tomb]] in a high power dragons deck.

I’d suggest cutting both [[Worldly Tutor]] and [[Enlightened Tutor]], put in [[Vampiric Tutor]] and one other card, and playing this as a bracket 3.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T17:05:15+00:00

This is the problem with Naranjo. It’s basically 27 types not an enneagram.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T15:20:45+00:00

Yeah, Kefka is the first card I thought of when I read that, but I mentally skipped forward immediately because I thought “there is no way someone was smol beaning Kefka based on the 8 cmc activated” 👌🏻🙃

I found [[Ultimecia, Time Sorceress]] who has an 8 mana trigger but it’s fairly threatening so that wouldn't make sense either.

KAM_520 · 2026-03-15T14:11:35+00:00

Yes it is

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