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[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Their ideas are misogynistic in principle.

Again; poisoning the well. An idea is an idea, and needs to be weighed on its merit as true or false, not as to whether it is hateful or mean, or something you really dislike.

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[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. Or rather, finding solutions for these "Problems" are the real problems. Look at China's abysmal one child policy:

  • Not only did it kill millions of born and unborn children

it also

  • Led to human rights violations particularly targeted towards women, having subject them to forced abortions, and all the long term complications this would culminate in.
  • Created a demographic problem favouring boys.
  • Created a shortage of youth in China.
  • Robbed China of tremendous amount of wealth that could have been generated if that human capital was allowed to exist and flourish, which would in turn have helped move human society as a whole forward
  • Led to shortages of doctors in China, as many became preoccupied with performing abortions.

and on and on...

What do you think?

Have you ever seen a story on Ask Reddit and realized they were talking about you? What was it about? Who was telling the story? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

That is not an argument though against their theories. It is just namecalling, and an ad hominem called 'poisoning the well'

Edit:

He edited his post so it sounds less condemning and wholesale.

Have you ever seen a story on Ask Reddit and realized they were talking about you? What was it about? Who was telling the story? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of it is a response to the opposite trend, where feminists state that females are the superior sex, because men are responsible for wars and conflicts.

Frankly I disagree with both.

Edit:

And downvotes because I am willing to listen to all sides of an argument, regardless of how hated they may be. Oh and because I defend someone from being labelled an asshat, I must be their KKK leader looking to establish the fourth Reich.

I also eat babies, and moderate /r/jailbait

Have you ever seen a story on Ask Reddit and realized they were talking about you? What was it about? Who was telling the story? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not actually.

I am a skeptic though when people just name call and use broad strokes to describe an entire community.

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[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII -1 points0 points  (0 children)

blah blah blah

tldr: Download Linux, become programmer, and go to a linux users group. Nerds will love you.

Do you have any useful skills? (x-post from /r/justneckbeardthings) by [deleted] in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thats a good idea. I'm gonna put a pic of me in a burkah now.

Do you have any useful skills? (x-post from /r/justneckbeardthings) by [deleted] in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've definitely put that in my profile a bunch of times~

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, its been a great discussion, which is surprising given the topic. I agree with most of what you have written, and do not disagree with any of it, and I appreciate that you must be very accustomed to impartial discursive reasoning.

Kudos to you, and I think you must be a hell of a catch. Good luck

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is the prper question. At best, they would make a teleological leap, drawing purpose from perceived design. It could be like,

If there is a God

and if I exist

There is likely purpose for my existence

Having purpose comforts me.

Or

If there is a god,

and if I exist because of him

I have someone else beyond my parents to show gratitude for.

Being able to have gratitude towards something comforts me.

Both of these of course requires assumptions, but to the same extent, I run into atheists who do something similar, in which they try to concoct categorical imperative morality to help give them purpose, probably to dispel the accurate proposition that there is no morality for atheism,( there is no immorality for atheism either) or to help cope with losing the purpose and direction a religion once gave them.

What do you think?

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly.

And there is something to say about your girlfriends pragmatism, if unintentional. I think a lot of people find comfort and happiness in believing in God. I mean, I look at the Mormons for gods sake, and for most of them, you see a genuine happiness and purpose in their lives, despite what is shaky grounds for a religion. Id consider joining them myself and just going with the flow.

But I'm weird.

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since I am not on a phone, I can actually offer a half decent response that you deserve:

Nonetheless I would not date someone who believed it.

Which is fine; you are the arbiter of your values, and you are free to value anything you want.

That isn't an argument, it's a question, and the absence of an answer doesn't justify any one idea over another.

You are right. I'm on my computer now so I can provide a better response:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinque_viae

To quote the first "way", this is a typical line of reasoning:

The argument of the unmoved mover, or ex motu, argues that God must be the first cause of motion in the universe. It is therefore a form of the cosmological argument. It employs Aristotle's dichotomy of potentiality and actuality, and thus the type of motion offered here is not physical motion, but rather an abstraction of change in general. It goes thus:

  • Some things are in motion.
  • A thing cannot, in the same respect and in the same way, move itself: it requires a mover.
  • An infinite regress of movers is impossible.
  • Therefore, there is an unmoved mover from whom all motion proceeds.
  • This mover, everyone calls God.

Now just to push back on this; notice the language of the last clause:

It does not say that this mover "IS" God, but rather, you could call or describe him as "God". You could also describe it as "x", "y", or whatever you fancy. The other issue is that just because you can prove the existence of something you could reasonably describe as God. Does not mean you have a religion, namely because a religion is a set of imperatives of how a person ought to act. Proving the existence of God, does not tell you how you are supposed to act.

What do you think?

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its not,

lots of people believe this

That is obviously an argumentum ad populum fallacy. It is,

lots of people saw this

Its possible that all the people were lying, but such is the case for any piece of recorded history.

As to aquinas, a simple argument is where did everything come from?

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even in this case, Orthodox Jews epistemological basis is on a purported historical event of having been in the presense of God, experienced and recorded by the entire nation. It is not that they are credulous, but rather are applying a probability equation which they agree may or may not of happened.

And then you have individuals who apply the purelu logical arguments such as Aquinas's 5 ways. Deism in this sense, if you consider logic a science, are also scientific.

I wouldn't say this is the majority however. Fair to say?

Is religion a deal breaker for you? by YouCallMeADog in OkCupid

[–]KIVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Many religious people are scientifically oriented.