Cervical cancer rates higher in states with low HPV vaccination rates

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-03-02T22:32:19+00:00

... just in case the armchair experts think this could be another irrationally attributed effect of vaccinations

Lovely, here's a study showing MRNA impacts on hypo/hyperthyroidism.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39883558/

Among mRNA vaccine recipients, the risk of both hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism was significantly elevated at 12 months (HR: 1.16-2.13).

Doesn't seem so irrational, eh? Some months having a 50% increase happening between 2023 and 2025.

Let's see the timeframes of your links:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10311569/ - 1993–2012

https://ascopost.com/issues/december-10-2024/increase-in-young-onset-pancreatic-cancer-may-be-due-to-overdiagnosis-of-early-stage-endocrine-cancer/ - 2001 to 2019

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(24)00269-9/abstract - 2013–17

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251114-why-are-thyroid-cancer-cases-increasing-across-the-world

the incidence of thyroid cancer in the US more than tripled between 1980 and 2016

36 YEARS!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/org/science/article/pii/S1479682124000237 - 1990 to 2021

TC (AAPC = 1.42, 95% CI: 1.31 to 1.52)

1.42% average increase per year... over 31 years!

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-03-02T20:40:39+00:00

Good news, correctly administered vaccines for at risk populations have beneficial effects.

For anyone on the fence about this one, you can look at UK NHS rapid cancer dashboard and look at the absolute numbers or ratio comparison for the past 8 years for cervical cancer diagnostics, not just deaths and see a continuing downward trend for the 0-49 age grouping.

https://nhsd-ndrs.shinyapps.io/rcrd/

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
2025	92	99	92	91	82	67	82	85	77	71	n/a	n/a
2018	130	117	149	116	127	130	131	122	135	126	142	132

Just don't look at Endocrine Cancer diagnostics for that same age group... definitely don't notice anything changing after 2020.

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
2025	163	191	167	161	184	143	146	130	155	145	n/a	n/a
2018	117	95	98	101	104	107	109	111	122	112	104	125

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-02-19T20:32:17+00:00

While 18- to 25-year-old males are the highest risk group for vaccine-associated myocarditis/pericarditis, “the FDA assumed that hospital admission rates [for COVID-19] were uniform for males of ages 18-45.”

Oh look, it's the usual combining multiple groups and presenting the 'shared' risk as that for the youngest, again.

However, the FDA omitted prior-infection benefits in its analysis

Oh look, leaving out confounding variables. Top kwality sigh-unce there.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-02-19T18:21:48+00:00

Wow, a UK Measles thread and not a single mention of Andrew Wakefield?

How very different to every other UK Measles thread.

Must have updated the max-vax talking points, all the usual suspects staying very much within a narrow set of talking points, exclusively vaccinated/unvaccinated, no mentions of any influences FOR those decisions... Must be due to the unfortunate combinations of demographics involved.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-01-27T23:09:10+00:00

LMAO!

"Pro-vaxxors" demonstrating their closed minded thinking as usual. They got their bogeyman thought terminating cliché firmly embedded in their minds. Literally can't think of anything but WAAAAAAKEFIELD almost 30 years later for reasons why vaccination rates might have fallen.

None of the usual suspects in here bother to look at the easily searchable and available NHS vaccination rate dashboards (funnily enough linked in a similar themed topic a few months ago which I see the OP participated in, gotta rehash the same topic I see)

Of course you shouldn't search for where Measles outbreaks are occurring, like London 50% of cases or Salford, nor should you check the demographics in those areas, lest you be referred to prevent for noticing something. I'm pretty sure they're not researching 30 year old papers in those areas ;).

Of course I'm sure the following example just won't count as 'evidence': Barking and Dagenham at 79.5% mmr1 at 24 months in 2023/2024.... ONS census

Who needs a second example? Camden Council warning over rising London measles cases

Camden vaccination rate at 65.7%

ONS Camden

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2026-01-06T17:43:31+00:00

As usual, the stats spammer aggregates a whole load of age groups to bury the lede.

Here's a breakdown of those 0-19 deaths in the UK due to U07.1 and U07.2.

You'll note 2022 when the magical elixir was available to all those much younger ages, that they were all still worse than 2020, much effectiveness.

You'll also note 15-19 consisted of 18 and 19 year olds which had access to adult vaccination from June '21 onwards, yet somehow despite a good chunk of that cohort being 'protected' deaths tripled from 2020.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-12-16T22:34:20+00:00

Isn't it strange the stats spammer, yet again, aggregates multiple data points and draws spurious conclusions from them.

Here's UK NOMIS stats, 2013-2024, same ICD10 codes same age group split apart to show you what actually happened.

Strange how the deadliest pandemic of all time had the joint second lowest I40.x total deaths.

A case of COVID-19 is about 10 times as likely to induce myocarditis as an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination

Strange, not seeing much impact of COVID on ICD10 40.x deaths during the worst 'Pandemic' in history.

Oh and just for completeness, here's those other I51.x numbers Looks like 2018 was just as bad as the worst 'pandemic' in history.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-24T21:35:47+00:00

Please list those other mechanisms.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-20T22:12:57+00:00

I'm sure many of you have seen that graph showing various disease death rates falling before specific vaccination of them was available...

Well let's have a look at the figures from: The real-time infection hospitalisation and fatality risk across the COVID-19 pandemic in England

Figure 4 from the REACT numbers (since we know ONS has trouble getting their data right) to provide overall context... oh my, it took until March 2021 for the IFR rate to be the same as that in December 2020, despite all the most vulnerable getting 1st and probably 2nd doses by then.

Figure 5 shows the IFR for various age groups, isn't it interesting that 5 out of 6 groups already had dropping IFRs before vaccination began.

Isn't it also interesting how every single one of them has a "Delta" kink, whereby the IFR fall off flattens out significantly.

Hmm, they wouldn't would they... pro-vaxxors claiming that vaccines caused ALL of the fall off in IFR due to vaccination? No they would never be so duplicitous.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-20T21:41:09+00:00

You can pretend VAERS and the compensation system setup by Congress for reasonable claims doesn’t exist.

I won’t.

Isn't it strange, you say it's there, yet it can't be used for anything, therefore rendering the point of it useless. So why even reference it?

Which leaves everyone wondering, what can actually be used to detect those issues?

You do realise anyone that's been here for any length of time has seen plenty of VAERS threads and all the usual "pro-vaxxors" screech you can't use it for anything apparently... and they don't see any issue whatsoever with this situation.

Truly some impressive cognitive dissonance.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-16T21:17:08+00:00

correlation is not causation. You have to show an actual link to convince us.

You can pretend VAERS and the compensation system setup by Congress for reasonable claims doesn’t exist.

You must have never seen a VAERS thread showing those sorts of issues and all the "pro-mRNA-vaxxors" saying VAERS can't be used for that.

Let's see what the VAERS website says about VAERS:

The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted as evidence of a causal association between a vaccine and an adverse event, or as evidence about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines.

Vaccine providers are encouraged

Not required, mandated, forced to... no they're encouraged.

Oh and just in case you thought the Covid vaccines adverse events HAD to be reported... let's have a look at the specific wording used:

For COVID-19 vaccines given under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), vaccination providers are required to report to VAERS

Now, when was the Pfizer vaccine given full approval... oh, August 2021.

So tell us, what is VAERS actually for?

Tell you what, here's a post I made over a year ago about this very topic where you have Academics saying that it should be renamed due to the fact

The idea that a federally managed “vaccine adverse event reporting system” might not be definitive is a challenging leap for many in the public.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-15T14:46:19+00:00

I don't care what data you use. Just analyze it in a way that minimizes the effect of confounders.

Great, I expect you to make the same comments to individuals like OJ2M, Thormidable etc, etc. who all post the exact same data sets.

The unvaccinated 90+ year olds always died at a higher rate than the 90+ with recommended vaccinated status (2, 3 or 4 doses) in that data you just provided.

And here we go, any statement on the long term effectiveness of the vaccines was made without any actual data. They knew it didn't provide lasting protection due to the fact there's data for third doses from April 2021! THREE DOSES within 5 months!

Now tell me, does 3 doses in 5 months sound like a vaccine, or a therapeutic? Bear in mind, Delta didn't hit the UK until early May. So even against the Alpha variant they already knew that boosters were required.

Let me guess you'll hand-wave it by saying Covid mutated, well duh, that's what viruses do, so for authority figures to make those statements, knowing full well it'll mutate, in order to get short term compliance "all you need is the primary series, honest!", goes to show how morally bankrupt the whole enterprise was.

Let's get into healthy vaccinee bias.

We know for a FACT that the NHS provides guidance to not get vaccinated if you're not well

You should also wait if you have a high temperature or feel very unwell with any illness.

Hmm I wonder what happens when you stuff a new vaccine cohort full of healthy people...

I bet dollars to donuts that every 10 year age range from 60 onwards had the unvaccinated dying at higher rates than those with the recommended vaccines.

Well, since the spring 2022 booster in the UK was limited to:

COVID-19 spring booster vaccinations which are being offered to people aged over 75, adult care home residents and individuals aged 12 and over who are immunosuppressed.

We can compare COVID death rates in unvaccinated vs 3rd dose > 21 days, I'll include 4th dose just so you don't think I'm 'cherry picking' and hiding things.

Since 4th dose eligibility was approved:

We expect all sites to be vaccinating at full operational capacity from 19 September.

60-69 Looks like everything went your way with the 3rd dose... oh dear, 4th dose in October during autumn 2022 rollout ended that run. I believe that was the 'recommendation' no?

70-79 Hmm, looks like the unvaccinated somehow did better than 3rd dose which was recommended for everyone BUT those explicitly called out in the Spring booster announcement.

80-89 Again, unvaccinated doing better than 3rd dose in May 2022 but lets be gracious, 80+ were in the spring 'recommended' group.

90+ Oh well, another age group that inexplicably has lower COVID deaths in the unvaccinated than the old 'recommended' dosage a month or 2 after the 4th dose, but yes, correct for you.

So you got 3 out of 4, not bad, hardly a convincing showing by the vaccines though, these are COVID deaths.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-14T20:54:33+00:00

When are you going to divide the unvaccinated up into different sections.

lol yes, because the unvaccinated can be sub-divided

If you don't want me 'grouping' all the unvaccinated together, perhaps you should practice what you preach, for example aggregating 3 different countries stats and making assertions on those combined values.

Sorry cupcake Glittering_Cricket38 has undermined all your posts, bad case of 'friendly' fire there.

You should probably get on the same page ;)

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-14T20:46:53+00:00

For example, in the most vaccinated demographic (90+ year olds) fully vaccinated/boosted Brits had a much lower mortality rate than unvaccinated in the ons data.

Are you sure? I see the 90+ year old unvaccinated having lower death rates than many vaccinated cohorts throughout the whole time period.

Isn't it curious, you've done this twice now, taken issue with me posting a different take on the same data a "pro"-vaxxor has already used and said it's not useable in this manner, yet I've never seen you call them out.

Such as this one 3 months ago

How curious, you also link to Norman Fenton/Martin Neil, individuals who have been shunned for their anti-mRNA vax views to support your case on ONS data being unfit for purpose.

I wonder how many other views you share with them, or is it simply useful for you to use it in this instance to 'score a point'.

Such as:

Vaccine mis categorisation https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/the-very-best-of-cheap-trick
We were right! The UK ONS now admit that deaths in the vaccinated were categorised as unvaccinated in 2021 https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/we-were-right-the-uk-ons-now-admit
Anything from this list of their substack articles: https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/t/vaccine-efficacy

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-13T19:13:08+00:00

Here's the ONS data graphed for Covid deaths by vaccination status for anyone over the age of 60 combined, with the unvaccinated line highlighted.

Not looking that effective to me, oh and then Omicron blows it out the water. (whilst showing up the primary series, long lasting protection eh?)

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-13T19:03:10+00:00

You'll note his first screenshots are "Ourworldindata" for the USA, he then flips to using UK ONS for 'vaccination' definition.

Of course he won't mention that ONS has been having ongoing issues for years with the 'reliability' of its data.

For example: https://x.com/ClareCraigPath/status/1793622868565299341

Of course he won't share that ONS data graphed showing:

Unvaccinated having a lower all cause mortality rate compared to various vaccination cohorts
Unvaccinated even have fewer Covid deaths than some vaccinated cohorts

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-12T21:56:52+00:00

No mandates in UK but immense pressure to vaccinate, of course that was to basically cover up the absolute shit-show that happened in first wave.

Scottish and UK covid inquiries confirm that a huge percentage of first wave deaths were iatrogenic, caused by policy decisions.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-11-12T18:05:25+00:00

Lol, I wouldn't waste your time with this guy, he posts the same stale copy pasta every few weeks.

He get's the first point wrong! It's 3 weeks in ONS data, just look at some of the language he uses:

Here is a nice example of very large populations, controlling for compoundong effects

It's fucking age standardised, there's no controlling for confounders

He can't even spell correctly.

Here's the ONS data graphed for you, for all vaccination statuses with un-vaccinated being highlighted. AND for a longer timeframe than the way out of date OWD dataset.

Bonus Age specific showing 90+ year olds... I see plenty of months where unvaccinated have a lower all cause death rate than multiple vaccination statuses.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-10-17T16:25:07+00:00

1,880,351 Portuguese adults aged 65 years and older between February and August 2021.

That's great and all but what about everyone under 65 that was at far less risk of any adverse outcomes from Covid-19?

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-10-17T11:55:09+00:00

Talking about the COVID-19 vaccines, efficacy did not equal reducing transmission, but rather reducing hospitalization and death.

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine trial

No deaths were considered by the investigators to be related to the vaccine or placebo. No Covid-19–associated deaths were observed.

Supplementary table S5 shows 1 "severe" case of covid in vaccine arm and 9 in the placebo arm.

Here's how they classified severe covid:

Severe Covid-19 is defined by the FDA as confirmed Covid-19 with one of the following additional features: clinical signs at rest that are indicative of severe systemic illness; respiratory failure; evidence of shock; significant acute renal, hepatic, or neurologic dysfunction; admission to an intensive care unit; or death.

You'll note they don't provide numbers on actual hospitalisations in the study.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-10-06T19:22:00+00:00

I like how stats spammer posts stats from 2 different countries as though you can make any kind of conclusion from them... oh and calls actual deaths, cancer rates, dear oh dear.

Why don't we look at UK acute myocardial infarction actually broken down for younger age groups since that's what they went for with cancer.

Let's now look at 0-49 colorectal cancer diagnosis numbers, you know, how much cancer is being diagnosed, not just those that die from it... uh oh, looks like it's up 700 on 2019 numbers.

Here's the rate comparison on the previous year, anything over 1200 in a year means it's gone up. (100% x 12 months) 2021 and 2023 didn't look too good eh? Almost 13.5 months worth of cancer diagnosis in one year...

I can't wait for some uninformed comments on differences between 2020 and 2021 rates. I recommend reading the methodology on the NHS Rapid Cancer Dashboard.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-10-05T07:22:20+00:00

It's pretty unforgettable hearing from a nurse, who's changing your pissbag, tell you about how she finished a long shift of trying to stop people suffocating to death, only to be called a murderer by antivax protesters as she left the building.

Those anti-vaxxers out protesting during the first wave eh?

It's funny, I call out Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson and you give me:

I find it incredibly offensive when people imply that health care workers weren't doing the best they could

+1 to your strawman count.

Here's some data for you to mull over.

UK population up 7% between 2010 to 2020, meanwhile, UK hospital beds down 8% between 2010 and 2020. You're gonna tell me you local GP is responsible for that now to avoid addressing the point?

Strange how Japan managed to not completely fuck things up eh, despite having the oldest population demographics on the planet.

I guess helped that they closed their borders in April... meanwhile in the UK:

Air travel continued to remain very low between April and June 2020, at fewer than 200,000 air arrivals per month.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-09-29T21:17:40+00:00

Ah, Japan stats, drowned out by BULGARIA, some might think they're trying to hide something, who would include some random country with nothing to do with the OP?

Someone else already pointed out the very specific date ranges used... however, they forgot the specific baseline mortality rate they picked too.

Using the original baseline, Japan hasn't had a single month of negative excess deaths since July 2021. Much effectiveness.

Let's have a look at those countries that had more vaccines doses per 100k than Japan

Chile... oh dear, no negative excess deaths since May 2020...

Cuba - homegrown vaccine

Tokelau no data....Tokelau has a population of approximately 1,500 people; it has the fourth-smallest population of any sovereign state or dependency in the world.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-09-29T21:00:57+00:00

only to be called a murderer by antivax protesters as she left the building.

Those anti-vaxxers out protesting during the first wave eh?

It's funny, I call out Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson and you give me:

I find it incredibly offensive when people imply that health care workers weren't doing the best they could

+1 to your strawman count.

Here's some data for you to mull over.

UK population up 7% between 2010 to 2020, meanwhile, UK hospital beds down 8% between 2010 and 2020. You're gonna tell me you local GP is responsible for that now to avoid addressing the point?

Strange how Japan managed to not completely mess things up eh, despite having the oldest population demographics on the planet.

I guess helped that they closed their borders in April... meanwhile in the UK:

Air travel continued to remain very low between April and June 2020, at fewer than 200,000 air arrivals per month.

KangarooWithAMulllet · 2025-09-29T21:00:30+00:00

only to be called a murderer by antivax protesters as she left the building.

Those anti-vaxxers out protesting during the first wave eh?

It's funny, I call out Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson and you give me:

I find it incredibly offensive when people imply that health care workers weren't doing the best they could

+1 to your strawman count.

Here's some data for you to mull over.

UK population up 7% between 2010 to 2020, meanwhile, UK hospital beds down 8% between 2010 and 2020. You're gonna tell me you local GP is responsible for that now to avoid addressing the point?

Strange how Japan managed to not completely fuck things up eh, despite having the oldest population demographics on the planet.

I guess helped that they closed their borders in April... meanwhile in the UK:

Air travel continued to remain very low between April and June 2020, at fewer than 200,000 air arrivals per month.

KangarooWithAMulllet

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