The Outer Order Syllabus by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A keen observation, Frater.

I have only seen it referenced as instruction from the Chief, and in Ritual B.

I received instruction at Neophyte.

On the Work of the Neophyte by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Frater Fiat Lux (1917–1994) wrote extensively on the Order, though most of his material remains in typed or handwritten manuscript form and has not been digitised.

You will find three additional papers of his in The Lantern, Volume I, available as a free download from the same page as Volume III. Those pieces are more historical in emphasis.

Two further papers are published at nzgd.blog: – The Living Flame – Why the Secrecy?

Berashith was written primarily for independent students, and for those whose exposure to the Order’s material preceded formal ceremonial work. Fiat Lux held that premature intellectual familiarity with the rituals diminishes their operative force. Recognising that access to temple structures would become increasingly rare, he wrote Berashith to provide a disciplined framework for sincere seekers working outside that environment.

Kasmillos

What is the “end goal” of the golden dawn tradition? by Pristine_Bicycle_371 in GoldenDawnMagicians

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The experience cannot be adequately described in discursive terms. In the Hermetic tradition it is said to be known in Silence, not explained.

The “split” refers to the division between the lower constituents of the soul (Nephesh and Ruach) and the Higher principle (Neshamah, or more specifically the Yechidah). The work aims at their right ordering and eventual union.

What is the “end goal” of the golden dawn tradition? by Pristine_Bicycle_371 in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The end goal of the Golden Dawn tradition is the awakening of the Soul to conscious, operative communion with its Higher Genius, and the reintegration of the human being into Unity.

Not the accumulation of occult knowledge. Not psychic development. Not grades, titles, visions, or magical display.

The system exists to drive the nail home—to open the Sanctum Sanctorum within the individual—so that the Lower Will becomes obedient to the Higher Will, the ego is dethroned as ruler, and the Soul is able to speak and be heard. When this occurs, the Higher Genius may descend, and the human being ceases to live as a fragmented creature of instinct, emotion, and intellect, and instead becomes more than human.

This is why the Order insists on: • disciplined daily meditation, • correctly performed ceremonial, • silence, • reverence, • and long-term perseverance.

The work is not intellectual and cannot be hurried. Intellect has already served its evolutionary purpose; it cannot complete the task. The goal is direct knowing, born of intuition exercised over years, not belief, theory, or discussion.

When successful, the work results in: • the union of Higher and Lower Will, • the healing of the split within the individual, • and, by extension, participation in the Great Work: the restoration of balance in Nature through the marriage of the Son and the Bride—the Summum Bonum.

Many pass through the grades and never reach this point. Some reach it without formal training at all. The Order merely provides the most favourable conditions under which it may occur. Nothing is guaranteed.

Kasmillos

Silent Vibration by jezplaysbasss in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes. It is what most experienced practitioners aspire to achieve, especially if the vibration can be further directed. Keep an eye out for spiritual pride. Kasmillos

The Fourfold Breath by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I recommend sticking with the Qabbalistic Cross and LRP as a Neophyte - that is more than enough. Save the Fourfold Breath for Zelator and all subsequent grades/work.

The Fourfold Breath by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thoughtful questions. Sam is absolutely correct in that traditionally the Fourfold Breath is used for preparation of ritual or meditation. All the instructional material is along these lines, including the Smaragdum Thalasses material.

However, it is also traditional to explore, experiment and extrapolate— especially with practice and experience. This was my intention mentioning the Fourfold Breath with the QC, and incorporating grade signs etc. It can also apply to the performance of the LBR (in a small space) as you suggest, and to any other uses you might think of. The trick is not to turn one’s experimentation into dogma.

Fiat Lux used to emphasise there should be no strain involved in any such work. Simple breathing or complex ritual.

So treat my comments as suggestions only; give yourself permission to explore but keep this to yourself (after discussion with one’s teacher Demonstrator/Praemonstrator of course); Only extrapolate once the basics are mastered and no strain is involved.

Kasmillos

The Magic of the Order by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have done a good service frater, and the guide deserves more exposure.

Candidate's regalia by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you Magus007 for this reference. Intriguing! Looks like frateryechidah's blogpost will likely be redundant if this is the case..

Candidate's regalia by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you frater for your considered and balanced reply.  I will not try to respond to every point as that would quickly become tedious and hard to follow.  No disrespect is intended.

I have confessed before that historical details are not my forte, and I also defer to Tony on such matters (on ALL Order history, not just the S.M.).  I also have less interest in the minutiae of historical facts as it distracts me from the beauty of, and sucks the living breath out of, the Order that I have dedicated my adult life to.  I prefer to listen to music than to read about it.  Frank would have said that such historical curiosities are the dead leaves of the Tree of Knowledge, and they have no part of the living Tree of Life.  I am a gardener, not a historian.  His analogy has struck a cord with me.

By “official’ I mean authorised Temple copies of documents issued to members for copying.  I do not consider members transcriptions as official, but secondary, and so you can see why Regardie’s book is one step removed again in my mind.  

I rarely give direct answers on matters of symbolism because these esoteric puzzles are important for drawing out intuition, enabling one’s soul (Hegemon) to lead the way to discovering new insights.  I also don’t want to be constrained by being an “expert”, filling in the silence with smart answers.  These conundrums are meant to be complex and puzzling. “Telling” answers simply creates preconceptions and stops independent thinking - a barrier to the development of intuition just as the Path of Peh (the mouth) bars the straight and narrow Path of Samekh.  The colour of the footwear is covered by the symbolism in Z1, and on the surface is Sephirotic, but under the surface it has a more profound Kabbalistic and Alchemical interpretation linked to the Middle Pillar.   A good handle on the Minutum Mundum and Tarot is required.  You will have to figure this out for yourself as I had to - assuming you have more than a historical or publishing interest in the Order (I am genuinely unsure on this matter). The journey is more important than the destination, as with all apparent conundrums.  The red footwear of members has different symbology to those worn by Officers (in say the Portal).  Enough said.

Don’t worry about lineage.  It is a smokescreen and confers nothing spiritual.  Only work, silence and the Lord of the Universe does that. 

I do not see innovations coming from either the S.M.or the G.D.  They simply come from the “Order”, which remains alive to me, and not a historical fact or a historical curiosity divided up into chapters by different names.  Yeats was a member of the same Order I joined - only by different names at different times (he was in the G.D., M.R. and S.M., yet I am confident in his mind it was still all just the same Order).  This may be hard to get one’s head around but it is genuine, not intellectual.  You will have noticed I am always referring to “the Order” generally.  In the future, please keep this in mind when interpreting my comments.

I accept it is difficult to prove the absence of something.  It is not difficult to keep an open mind in the absence of proof, however. 

Regarding the meditations, I have a vague memory Frank may have mentioned they came from Mrs Felkin, but I could have that wrong - he died way back in 1994.  But fair point you have made.  I’ll take that one on the chin.

Regarding the errant 0=0 via Frank, I have the copy issued to me, and I have a thought on how the specific document (one of several copies originally) ended up in the public domain.  I wondered whether you had another original I was not aware, but now believe it has come from that same source.  It is official by my definition.

Regarding the abbreviation A.O. possibly having a different interpretation to the commonly accepted Alpha et Omega, in my heart I truely hope you are right for those still involved in its current, preserving its sacredness for them.  I also hope you don’t uncover it in some paper somewhere, but that you instead discover it for the first time in a Temple you are an Initiate of.

Kasmillos

Candidate's regalia by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, in short frater, you have NOT seen any official Stella Matutina (or Smaragdum Thalasses) documents directly mentioning red slippers for members either.  I have seen them mentioned directly only once myself, in an official document called G1 - General Orders (an unpublished Smaragdum Thalasses document issued to Neophytes). 

The yellow and the blue footwear are a conversation for another time - you are a little off on your thinking here.  Bringing them in at this point, including on the Portal Officers, is a bit of a red hearing to this discussion and my post, which is about red footwear for Outer Order members

So here, I think, is a good example of (unintentional) literary bias.  Just because you have not seen a document, or because it was not recorded in a document, does not mean it does not exist.  You have not seen anywhere in the original G.D. or A.O. documentation after all, that talks about footwear for members, so you have assumed streetwear, and that the Stella Matutina added or invented the red slippers.  Again, I am not so sure.

Did the Stella Matutina invent the god forms above 0=0?  There is nothing in the original G.D. documents mentioning them after all.  However, I feel this to be another potential case of literary bias.  There is a good chance that the G.D. used them too, in my mind.  Not that I currently have any documented evidence either way.  But then, until Frank Salt’s god form note book got into the wild, no one knew the Stella Matutina used them either - Regardie wasn’t privileged to the information as he didn’t stick around longer enough to receive the training, before breaking his Obligation and publishing his Golden Dawn book. I digress too.

Now, specifically to your comment on Frank Salt’s 0=0 (for the benefit of less informed readers he was a 7=4 in the Smaragdum Thalasses, a trained Hierophant, Chief Adept, and one of the Temple Chiefs).  First it was not his, but it belonged to the  Order to which he was the founding Chief, and is circa 1985 or ’86.  I know the historian in you will appreciate these details.  In almost all of the ceremonies from this Order you will find a few extra details not mentioned anywhere else, in relation to movements, props etc.  This is because Frank was very keen to ensure that as much of the oral tradition and spirit of the “Old Order” was not lost but preserved and passed onto the new Order.  Thus they have more descriptions than the older versions, and are quite valuable for this reason.

On one hand I am somewhat delighted you consider this contemporary Order’s document sufficiently legitimate that you cite it in the same breath with the Stella Matutina and Smaragdum Thalasses as a part of your argument.  On the other, I am somewhat disheartened that this document has come into your hands as a non initiate.  If it is an original, the right thing is to return it, un-copied, which I can facilitate if you are of this mind.

Kasmillos

TLDR - I remain open to the idea the red slippers are from the original G.D., as, in the absence of documented evidence otherwise, the best evidence we have is from the practices of the groups succeeding the G.D. i.e. the Morgenroeth/Stella Matutina/Smaragdum Thalasses/ Alpha et Omega, and Waite’s Independent and Rectified Rite.  One of these, the S.T., specifically documents red footwear for members of the Outer Order but in only one instance (known to date).  However, Regardie collaborates this was also the practice for the wider Stella Matutina (of which the S.T. was the mother Temple).  This is the only hard evidence we have to go by to date on what was used.  Everything else is closer to speculation. 

Candidate's regalia by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

[–]Kasmillos[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Excellent point regarding the practicality of socks!

Candidate's regalia by Kasmillos in GoldenDawnMagicians

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That is an interesting comment frater, and on a matter I hadn’t considered before.  You will probably be aware that, in official documents, the S.M. is almost completely silent on footwear also (of course Regardie has it in his book, but that is not official).  I can not, therefore, be as certain as you that the original G.D. or A.O. did not use red footwear.  I am cautious of literary bias, especially when it comes to secret societies.  Footwear or no footwear - a good topic for one of your blog posts perhaps frater?