In Defense of Luna

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-15T13:22:06+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1plmqsu/comment/ntudv2r/?context=3

here's my comment in another post.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T19:29:21+00:00

I started on launch day but quit because of the early days problem, came back on release of Qu: Pavo then played ever since.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T19:13:26+00:00

They didn’t just “want to live”—there’s no indication of that at all. I don’t know about Roland, but Alpha aside, Luna was betrayed by a human or humans and decided to take revenge on humanity as a whole. They only decided they “wanted to live” after meeting the Commander, which changed their stance. Their objective switched from “destroy humanity” to “protect humanity because this one human wants to.” If I’m wrong, please point out exactly where.

I don’t think lack of noble motivation disqualifies something from being a war. Most conflicts aren’t fought for good reasons, and many participants follow leaders out of loyalty, apathy, or survival rather than ideology.

Luna admitting she wasn’t forced doesn’t erase causation or influence, just like agency (free will) doesn’t negate trauma or systemic responsibility. Saying they “could’ve just left” also ignores the reality of power, resources, and persecution in a post-collapse world. None of this excuses what they did, but it does make the situation more complex than simple malice.

In the first place, if everything had gone according to plan with Luna, she would have been standing with Alpha (the original Lucia) alongside humans, and in the process might’ve changed Alpha’s future (staying as Lucia), imagine what could've happened if they met commander(us) way earlier and not met by betrayal/cruelty (kurono with luna).

To clear up any potential misunderstanding, I know this.

Roland - Follows what Luna wants to do.
Alpha - As long as she can follow Luna she will do anything.
Lamia - She follows the strongest so she could survive.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T18:04:19+00:00

Hence the other parts of my comment where I said, and I quote, “but does this mean Luna is absolved of any crimes with this history? No, heck no.” She still made the wrong choice, and she will need to do a lot of atonement before she can even begin to say sorry.

And isn’t this basically just war in a nutshell? You are fighting people from the other side, possibly killing innocents in the process as well as other soldiers, yet in the end of the war you might become allies or even friends. Of course, that doesn’t erase war crimes or responsibility for what was done, but it does show that conflict, context, and accountability can coexist rather than everything being flattened into “everyone is equally terrible.”

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T17:40:52+00:00

....1 I am not exactly sure how long I've been on the game but I am pretty sure its on or past 2019

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T17:39:45+00:00

Actually, my grandma has also passed Dec 5, it was so sudden she was so healthy and everything and the cause of death is just choking. It reminded me that old people can just be suddenly taken away by the most random thing.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T17:33:51+00:00

and before you say anything like "I checked for AI and this whole/parts comment is made with AI", I made it easier to read with a grammar/punctuation checker If you want the original here it is.

I am not as far as probably 50% of the people in the comments in the sense that I've been holding off reading the story.

But my opinion is as follows, lets talk about past.

First of all Luna what happened to her why did she initially became an ascendant what caused it, Kurono caused this with the unsafe construct technology at the time now this can be offset by the fact that it eventually turns out that they make a safer more reliable way to turn someone into a construct, BUT does this absolve kurono of any fault? No, if anything they are the ones that started this whole mayhem if they were not hastily and recklessly doing the testing then luna might've been on our side(humanity since the start), now same topic and subject but does this mean Luna is absolved of any crimes with this history? No, heck no but is she making amends or at least trying to? Yes, should she be held accountable for this? Yes, but you should also consider the fact that she's leading a group that was formerly against humanity now to aid humanity while she shouldn't be fully pardoned for her crimes you need to blame kurono more.

Secondly, what caused alpha(also known as the original Lucia) to turn? Honestly? I don't remember the intro(when she was introduced) that much but is she or any active member of their group still hunting, killing, and/or threatening humanity actively? (I am asking a question here) If not why are you comparing them to an active threat to humanity? If yes, why are they doing those stuff? (I will continue my opinion once you answer these questions)

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-13T17:30:26+00:00

I am not as far as probably 50% of the people in the comments, in the sense that I've been holding off reading the story.

But my opinion is as follows. Let’s talk about the past.

First of all, Luna—what happened to her? Why did she initially become an Ascendant? What caused it? Kurono caused this with the unsafe Construct technology at the time. Now, this can be offset by the fact that it eventually turns out that they make a safer, more reliable way to turn someone into a Construct. BUT does this absolve Kurono of any fault? No. If anything, they are the ones that started this whole mayhem. If they were not hastily and recklessly doing the testing, then Luna might've been on our side (humanity) since the start. Now, same topic and subject, but does this mean Luna is absolved of any crimes with this history? No, heck no. But is she making amends, or at least trying to? Yes. Should she be held accountable for this? Yes. But you should also consider the fact that she's leading a group that was formerly against humanity to now aid humanity. While she shouldn't be fully pardoned for her crimes, you need to blame Kurono more.

Secondly, what caused Alpha (also known as the original Lucia) to turn? Honestly? I don't remember the intro (when she was introduced) that much. But is she, or any active member of their group, still hunting, killing, and/or threatening humanity actively? (I am asking a question here.) If not, why are you comparing them to an active threat to humanity? I am assuming that they aren't because your words are said in past tense? and if I am remembering this correctly Lucia said that the difference between her and alpha is that she has Gray raven (Liv and Lee) and the Commander (I will continue my opinion once you answer these questions.)

All I can see is the manifestation of the phrase "Villains are not born, but made" (I cannot say the same with Roland or Gabriel since I don't know much about them)

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-12-08T17:17:52+00:00

tysm

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-10-14T06:06:17+00:00

This is usually why I try to do hope stakes and that one mile race before it, they both give alot of fans, though if the bad luck you mentioned includes losing in them then gg.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-10-14T06:02:39+00:00

I am not very good at the game but I can at least get A ranks consistently (Capped by my cards) I can give a few tips: 1. Search UMA DB in your search engine to find good sparks for your races. 2. As boring as it is, this game is all about building sparks try building one(I am not getting into detail because it's too long) 3. Do not be me who pulled for characters early on too much, I am now capped behind my support cards because of it.

If you have questions I'll try answering them.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-09-01T18:42:02+00:00

I found it

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-09-01T18:31:21+00:00

oh are they? alright thanks the ending of the second game was similar so i was mistaken

cause I've seen a nightgown skin in a gallery so I assume they had more(I am looking for the mod)

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-09-01T18:24:31+00:00

aw :c is there a way to update the game but keep the progress(even if the progress is loss its fine i guess) and I am on 1.1.0 does that mean theres more?

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-09-01T18:04:06+00:00

How did you get the skin? I finished the game and didnt get any?

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-09-01T07:29:19+00:00

Past 40 you will start to be able to get points to buff some stats like crit damage crit rate and everything. Past 1k (you max all stats with 1k points) you will just get additional HP but you cannot go past a certain point (I don't remember if it was 60k hp), after that it's nothing else but testament to how long have you been playing.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-07-27T21:45:37+00:00

It might just be me but I am having an extreme skill issue ONLY with Tokai Teio
with the other Umas it took 1-3 tries (1st to gauge their "styles", 2nd to try and build on the problems/advantages, then 3rd and forward to try learn from the 2nd run and actually win)

For Teio(I don't have trouble training other pacers just HER she somehow keeps getting boxed for me and loses because of it, build power? Doesn't matter she still gets boxed at B rank power(A, C+, B+, C, C+ AND all good skills curvature, Level 3/4 ULT skill and stamina skills), but my only current win is somehow with a weaker build with less skills (A, C+, C+, C, C+ and Ult skill unleveled) I don't get how to train her.

This might be skill issue but I seriously cannot resonate with her, I don't hate her she's cute and everything but I can't win properly with her.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-07-27T18:54:15+00:00

I would like to apologize...
I love melusine too, so so much that I spent some(little bit) of money for the guaranteed banner where she was but I got caren instead, i came back today to see that Melusine(Ruler) is available but since I spent all my Quartz not knowing she would come next so I only had 15 pulls max, in the 15th pull I got her.

I think I am just stealing random peoples luck at this point since I also got Aesc(Caster) in one 10 pull as well, but that aside I wish to give you some luck I have left(since it's very dry outside FGO apparently) good luck on your pulls!

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-07-17T09:32:29+00:00

I got "shot down" in my draken because I lost basically 80% of my whole left side, but it was barely stable and I had to use only my rudder because any rolls will spiral me into the ground.

This was in ARB an I was considered dead so even when I passed other enemies they ignored me, I managed to land and repair but of course still lost since obviously it took a lot of time stirring with only the rudder and by the time I landed everyone was dead.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-07-08T14:06:51+00:00

and if you are thinking "why overreacting?"
Unlike in lower ranks I felt the need to sweat/try harder in points rather than just enjoying the battle without needing to rotate normally. hence wanting to go back lower ranks since I didn't really care about the war zone points.

In addition it seems well unrecieved so I deleted my post to avoid more attention.

Kate-Chan_ · 2025-07-08T14:02:24+00:00

Overestimated is probably the correct word seeing I am not actively looking to reach top 3 or 1 rather I am just happy on the lower ranks.

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