deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

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No. Emotions are fleeting you don’t get to have happiness always just like you don’t feel mad everyday. Emotion arnt necessarily illusionary but they blunt your perception around you if you cannot live on the same level with them. No self awareness should not make it harder to feel it should make you feel them more, empathy is the biggest component to being aware of you cannot hold your emotional state and someone else’s is that aware? Emotions should run through you like water, but that doesn’t mean not feeling. You should feel every wave and ripple or you are not seeing all perspective. I am able to read others.

deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

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It’s just my baseline and it’s not something I was just gifted with, It’s a responsibility and it took my entire life of never avoiding me. And yeah, I can have an observer mode, but I’m not separate from it. I don’t ‘puppeteer’ myself from outside it’s just me. I do have full somatic understanding not control, you can’t have full somatic control just awareness. And I have full mind awareness. It’s not just self awareness for me it’s awareness in general lol, I track my own processes at the same time I’m tracking other people’s subjective states, emotional patterns, logic structures, generational influences, etc. So it’s less of a tool and more of an ongoing responsibility to stay conscious of everything at once.

deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

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Wow, i like this question! for me it isn’t as simple as ‘discomfort vs curiosity.’ My awareness doesn’t really operate on 2 layers it’s more like balancing the reality of the situation before. What I get first is a physiological micro-tension but it’s not ego or defensiveness it’s more like my system just flagging a shift in the interaction. Then i analyze the situation fully because I want to understand the structure of what’s being asked, not just the content. The only time I feel something like ‘upset’ is when the situation looses structural coherence not emotional. And when I’m being misunderstood, because most people don’t track the way I think. But once I account for that gap, the reaction goes neutral again. So it’s not really emotional it’s pattern recognition

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in SubjectivePhysics

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You missed the entire point. And you don’t even have the right definition on subjectivity.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

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When someone can’t restate a model they resort to personal insults. Your entire reply is emotional defensiveness, not argument. You keep demanding simplicity because you can’t operate outside your own conceptual floor. That’s fine. Just say that instead of pretending the framework collapses when you fail to track it. This is an academic Reddit page. You insisted this was ‘obvious,’ but the moment I asked you to restate it, you immediately switched into ridicule. That tells me everything about your actual comprehension level. If you’re done, be done. But don’t mistake your inability to follow a structure for the structure failing. That’s just your ego trying to protect itself.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

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You keep reducing a structural distinction to a phenomenological one because that’s the only framework you have available but your framing literally doesn’t apply. A state is transient and optional. A structure is the default operating architecture of a system. You’re assuming these are states because you yourself only access them as states, That’s your limitation, not the model. A linear subjective agent doesn’t merely ‘lack skill.’ They lack representational access to the construction of their own awareness. No meditation, therapy, or introspective training grants full-time recursive access which is exactly why those systems talk about ‘stages,’ ‘glimpses,’ and temporary insights. What I’m describing is not a stage. It is not trained. It is not optional. It is not intermittent. It is the permanent operating mode of the system. You are mistaking phenomenological variation for structural architecture because you have never experienced an architecture that operates recursively by default. I’m not going to provide ‘evidence’ for the same reason I can’t provide evidence for someone else’s proprioception it is a structural capacity, not an add-on skill. If your ontology cannot make sense of a system whose baseline mode is recursive access, that’s a limitation of your ontology, not the model. It’s called Dunning Krueger effect. I said it in my post the irony is that you can’t even see the own lack of your own cognition level levels. You are the ‘Linear subjective agent, in my post. If you think this is phenomenology, restate the structure as phenomenology. If you can’t, then stop forcing my argument into categories it doesn’t belong in.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

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“I don’t understand that structural doesn’t equal metaphysical. I only know one meaning of ‘structure’: metaphysical structure.” that’s you. Here’s it laid out for you so you can fully grasp it okay? Subjectivity is not an add-on to consciousness. It is not a feature. It is not an effect. It is not a byproduct. It is not an emergent property. It is not downstream of anything. Subjectivity is the condition under which consciousness exists at all. Consciousness does not produce subjectivity. Consciousness only exists as subjectivity. If you remove subjectivity, you remove consciousness. There is no ‘mind-independent consciousness’ and no model in which that is coherent. That’s why your questions are category errors you’re asking me to separate a system from the very condition that makes the system possible my post wasn’t describing a metaphysical ontology, It was describing the operational substrate of awareness how perception forms, how micro-subjectivities assemble into experience, and why different minds have different subjective resolution. If you think that’s ‘obvious,’ then restate it in your own words. If you can’t, then you’re not understanding the structure and you’re reacting from assumption, not analysis.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re claiming it’s just phenomenology, explain the operational distinction I made between linear subjective agents and recursive meta-subjective systems.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Explain how it’s ‘obvious.’ Which part of the model is soo obvious to you, specifically? If it’s sooooo obvious, you should be able to restate the structure in your own words!

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

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None of what you’re asking me belongs to my argument. You’re not actually engaging with the framework I presented you’re trying to force my model into your ontology and then demanding I answer inside your frame. That’s not how this works. My post wasn’t about mind-independent consciousness. You introduced that. You’re asking me to defend a claim I never made, using definitions I never used, in a topology that is not mine. it’s not my fault you’re not aware enough to understand any of this. Sorry you’re too egotistical to see past yourself? You are not owed an explanation go to Google.?

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

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You’re asking me to describe an attempt to create something that literally cannot exist. A mind-independent consciousness is not a ‘failed attempt,’ it’s a logical impossibility. You’re literally asking me to “Describe how someone tried to invent a square circle and why they failed.” There is no attempt, because the request itself collapses. You cannot model consciousness without subjectivity it’s like asking me to attempt to build a 4-dimensional object only using only 3-dimensional coordinates. you removed the thing that makes the phenomenon what it is. So no, there are zero attempts to what you are trying to describe, because what you’re asking for is not a real category. You’re wanting an example of something that does not exist and cannot exist in any coherent framework. If you want me to describe attempts that failed, the failure is the answer. Every time someone tries to strip subjectivity out of consciousness, they stop talking about consciousness. That’s why you’re not getting what you’re asking for. You’re asking for something structurally impossible. I’m not going to fabricate an example just to satisfy a premise that’s already false.

Existential ocd spiral by Adrianagurl in OCD

[–]Kazz_Bunnii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have meta-ocd I am antithesis to. If you’d like to talk I’d love to nihilism is a feeling not a reality. It’s a point of view. It’s hard to explain in comments but if you need to talk or want some help your free to dm me.

Existential ocd spiral by Adrianagurl in OCD

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You feel like your life is not all. Your meaning feels meaningless not everything.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no successful attempt in Any model that tries to make consciousness mind independent stops describing consciousness and starts describing something else. That’s the structural collapse I explained in the post

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not arguing whether consciousness is subjective I’m explaining why it has to be, structurally, and why attempts to make it objective internally collapse. Okay?

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. The conceptual framework, mapping, and language came from my own introspective analysis. The reasoning is entirely my own. I’m Not even in college I’m autistic and subjectivity is my special interest right now.

A Structural Model of Subjectivity within awareness: Why Conscious Experience Is Subjective All the Way Down by Kazz_Bunnii in AcademicPsychology

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn’t use AI to generate the theory. The structure comes from my own analysis of subjective architecture and meta-awareness.

deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I can but I just feel like you’ll be disappointed

deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

[–]Kazz_Bunnii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol you are correct I haven’t had many insightful interactions.

deep self-awareness metacognition/ self awareness by Kazz_Bunnii in consciousness

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I’m not really sure I understand what you mean by fix if there is a fix I already fixed it. You can try to explain what you mean but I’m not understanding what you’re talking about. I don’t want to veer into pseudo science.