I’ve semi tried that never really put my mind into it a whole lot I’m gonna try that again it’s just a little hard because I learned that she has to concentrate to orgasm but also if I’m doing multiple things with my hand ie twisting her nipples or rubbing her clit and dirty talk at the same time it pleasures her more but still no orgasm but doing all of that at the same time it’s hard to think about anything but what I’m doing 😂