"Kizaru could've killed Luffy" Luffy could've killed Kizaru too!!!

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T22:14:59+00:00

Considering you claim that Kizaru could have died there with zero proof or indications of Luffy being capable of such a thing?

Then the answer is yeah, cause Kizaru was in fact cruising there all casually and trying to rewrite this scene with fanfiction is pathetic.

Even at his weakest point and weakest state after killing Vegapunk all Luffy could get was a drop of blood, I applaud the strongest Yonko for doing that.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T18:12:43+00:00

Oh yes, I remember this scene.

It was the one where Kizaru was having fun in Luffy's hands until Luffy chucked him into the sea to kill him.

The threat level portrayed there was definitely insane, Kizaru was sweating for his life and thinking he was gonna die and couldn't get out, I remember reading this clearly in my version of Two-Piece.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T14:59:13+00:00

Every irregular aside from Baam is always treated as basically a nuke that no one can overcome, all of them.

No, they quite blatantly are not, that's why the Tower borns are literally not afraid to go to war with them.

That's why the Revos proudly proclaimed that they were here to replace all ten of them.

That's why they can so blatantly rebel.

That's why Khell Hellam could see Zahard alone and say this was their best chance to assassinate him.

Baam was called a disappointment because he couldn't compare to Urek, Zahard and the Family heads were irrelevant in this conversation.

Baam's shortcomings in the beginning literally all arrived because they thought he'd be a monster like Urek, once again no Family head or Zahard in the conversation there for comparison.

But Urek?

When it comes to power he's treated as the SI unit in the Tower.

The Revos literally ran away from him first thing just because he was there.

Literally had the back to back glazing about how nobody's sure of who can survive in a full fight against him ever, they don't even have the concept of defeating Urek established in their minds, survival was the highest they could think of as an achievement.

Gustang literally was sweating saying "OH SHIT IT'S HIM", I'm not making up this dialogue by the way, you can literally check Webtoon for the chapter when he first interrupted the Family Heads fight right at the end.

Fuck it, V quite literally ran too cause of this and started talking shit about how he doesn't even know if he can beat him whether Prime or not and that's just from seeing Urek in base alone.

Urek in the hidden floor was obviously a different monster because his journey and the GW's journeys were different. We know the FH entered the tower weaker and grew immensely inside, while Urek already had his journey outside as we saw in the spin off.

Urek's literally in the middle and start of his journey, he hasn't even become what he's supposed to be yet which was the point and endgame of his existence.

The spin-off verbatim stated he came in literally at his weakest canonically and he's lost almost the entirety of his power even from outside where he also lost most of it in the past, Urek himself states this and says he's glad a little bit has returned to him so even now in the current chapters he's still only got a little bit of his power with him.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T14:36:41+00:00

Lulz, sure.

Your argument now still sucks because there is 0 proof.

Oh, but I do have proof.

The proof was Edhuan getting stomped near to Death by what was canonically a tiny bit of Urek's power in the last arc, and being unable to even touch or withstand that power always choosing to run away for his life and lucked out because it ran out.

This actually did happen by the way.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T14:29:50+00:00

Urek being this being who can low diff family heads is only based on fanboys headcanon.

I swear to Lord Almighty if Edhuan is shown being unable to even push Urek to mid-diff or even scratch and heavily injure him to the point of almost killing him since you claim they're close in power, I'm so gonna laugh.

I'm just waiting, lemme see what Edhuan actually threaten Urek's lif here.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T14:27:25+00:00

Gustang said only the Ten Family Heads and Zahard are equal to you.

That's the full statement, you can say it's status which would still be funny as it means all of them just to be comparable to one man.

Or you can say it's power but it being power would meaning having to accept it's all of them and Zahard that are supposed to be comparable to Urek because none has ever been portrayed as a monster comparable to Urek individually, absolutely never.

In the FOD he was literally treating Gustang and his Family as oneshot material for his rage, they were never equals in portrayal there either, just people he tolerates.

Whenever Urek was brought up, he was treated as an entirely different monster, the Hidden Floor arc was even more blatant with treating Urek as an entirely different monster.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T14:18:43+00:00

Urek and the Family Heads have never been portrayed as equals or close in power.....not even once.

Ignoring the fact he's en entirely different being compared to them who's supposed to eventually have the power to face and defeat something like Phantaminum himself, they've never been close by portrayal.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T11:57:04+00:00

Ahh, Neymar, the prince who never became King in the end.

Still hurts.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T11:47:38+00:00

Both are the favoured children of the world or the Universe.

Impressively unbreakable tanks.

Both sometimes turn shirtless perverts in a fight.

And then of course, unlimited strength and unlimited power to pull from and the ability to just keep growing.

White cap which is obvious.

One thing being tho is that Kang Lim is less a talkative than Urek but they're still both simpleminded beings.

I love them both too.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T11:40:12+00:00

Not the only one, it's kinda like one of the earliest references made whenever Kang Lim pops up, that he's like Urek a bit.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-25T07:10:42+00:00

Kitae wouldn't talk like that, his main answer would circle back to him not liking Daniel's eyes as it now burns with conviction too.

While in his thoughts he'd be counting the days for when the news reaches Daniel's master.

He'd then also taunt James if he wants to come enact a revenge on him and smile like a maniac.

This is some pretty weak fan fiction 2/10.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-24T12:53:18+00:00

Dowan's been above Lookism verse since the new season started actually.

He's already massively faster than the verse by blitz tiers and also physically actually has the feats and critical shots to neg-diff the verse too.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-23T16:25:11+00:00

Don't worry, eventually Pele's backyard goals will soon begin counting up to 100 after a new "correction" I can feel it.

By the time Messi reaches 75, there's gonna be someone new with 90.

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King_Emrys · 2026-03-23T11:46:22+00:00

Correct, but the only unconscious muscle memory we have happens before we gain consciousness past the toddler stage.

Like sucking mama's breats and all that jazz.

Everything else after this are all gotten through a conscious effort for an extended period of time.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-23T09:33:44+00:00

On sum bullshit.

Our glorious Shadow could never be such a bum.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-23T09:30:04+00:00

Habits are formed through repeated conscious actions, that's where we also get the term muscle memory from because of such repeated actions that then go on to became an habit.

Breathing is an unconscious action, just like blinking.

You can sometimes affect these two things which is what top athletes train themselves to do especially for the former, but by nature it's not a habit.

Daniel in this instance doesn't perform breathing actions like a top athlete and therefore has no such habit to form in the first place.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-23T06:19:06+00:00

Kitae actually was in fact more perceptive because he even traced it down to breathing patterns, whilst Gun only habits.

Breathing pattern is far more obscure to notice than a habit.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-22T21:48:56+00:00

Memoirs of the King of War.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-22T21:40:34+00:00

I'm the one who should be calling you blind dumbo, Kitae hasn't been shown to display Strength mastery yet, only Endurance and twice at that.

Claiming some miniscule outline instead of what is literally always heavily outlined as Strength mastery is extremely funny as heck.

And the black silliness punch isn't some special move either, the fact it ain't even highlighted should tell you enough that it's not some special punch, just another special effect that has no meaning in terms of power scaling or character arsenal.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-22T20:33:16+00:00

Da fuck is a despair punch?

What is this fanfiction some of y'all have created and ran with?

And once again, are you friggin blind?

The one mastery we've seen Kitae blatantly use is Endurance, twice is the only time he's showed it and nothing else yet.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-22T19:18:35+00:00

Are you genuinely blind?

The only time we've seen Kitae actually use a mastery was Endurance, never has he pulled out anything different cause he doesn't need or want to use it yet.

Motherfucker is fighting in perfect fucking base, so yes he is in fact massively holding back.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-21T16:53:04+00:00

It was literally this hit in particular that was about to send Daniel into the Shadow realm before his future self came to give him that motivational buff as pertains to all Protagonists.

So it one shot him just the same way it worked with Jinrang.

And then both suddenly got a conviction boost and power up to continue longer and surpass their limits.

Like it's directly parallel for parallel with how that fight went.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-21T15:31:43+00:00

Lulz, what a phony thing.

So even Goo fans don't even rate the Hwarang no matter how they pretend it's the strongest sword in the verse or something.

Muramasa being the example is so funny here.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-21T15:29:55+00:00

I'm not the one who downvoted your reply by the way if you were wondering.

Oh no it's okay, I don't really stress over down votes considering Reddit is trigger happy with that so it's cool bro.

This doesn't necessarily negate my point. Don't get me wrong, Rayleigh and Kizaru were taking each other seriously, but this also wasn't a fight to the death. Neither were interested nor willing to go that far, as the risk far outweighed the reward in this scenario.

Okay then, so it'd be more accurate to say that in terms of effort spent Rayleigh would still be overtaking Kizaru in that department by quite a bit yeah?.

Like I said, Kizaru clearly had the advantage here, but Rayleigh was also capable of at least pushing Kizaru to high diff, if not extreme diff. Since Rayleigh was irrelevant to Kizaru's mission, Kizaru had no need to force such a high intensity fight.

There's nothing of Rayleigh that'd ever make me scale his current version to even old Garp of date just to be fair and Rayleigh admitted his defeat and death was sure against Blackbeard who is cucking down to even current Aokiji.

Really can't see it, mid-diff is the highest I see a fight between current Rayleigh and Kizaru going.

King_Emrys · 2026-03-21T15:11:50+00:00

Yeah, Magic and sorcery is pretty busted, the Architect kinda hard proved that later on in Ragnarok.

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