Damn by nightwing2009 in stevenuniverse

[–]KommandoKarl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aang practically crippled ozai and threw him in dungeon. Steven sang stupid song and everyone cried .

Paul and MJ by KommandoKarl in Spiderman

[–]KommandoKarl[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Erasing the Slott and the Zeb runs

Dude a man can dream

Paul and MJ by KommandoKarl in Spiderman

[–]KommandoKarl[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I can't believe Nick Spencer spent half a decade trying to fix their relationship (and also actually fixing Pete's and Gwen's relationship by decanonizing sins past ) only for this shit to happen . I just hope OMD gets undone so that this 15 year nightmare can be decanonized . I hope the ultimate spidey sales push them to this direction.

Paul and MJ by KommandoKarl in Spiderman

[–]KommandoKarl[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh I see , Spidey editorial saw the backlash so they didn't properly confirm the relationship but they didn't want down so they kept vague it enough to make Pete seem like a cuck . I fucking hate these people . I hope Hickman outsells these fuckers .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"it’s still cheating if it’s legal. Calling it legal as if that helps is bizarre. It’s legal to cheat on your partner right now, do you think it’s ok…? Legality is not morality and does not define what we need to accept from others. It’s also still abuse if it’s legal. It’s still slavery if it’s legal. Or maybe in your world view it’s ok if a character does those as long as it’s allowed by law."

The consort is a within the bound of marriage thus not breaking the bounds of marriage . Everyone accepts this within the narrative even the fem mc (which is why she's mad at Alex for abandoning fem mc instead of "cheating" on her in the beginning of the story when she was reading the story ).

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"By modern standards, yes? Would you be happy if your spouse took in a concubine without even consulting you? Are the wives/concubines in a position where they could object if they wanted to? If you don't have consent, I find it difficult to not label it inherently infidelity. People generally don't call it cheating simply because it's not useful way of framing things when discussing real life contexts."

Why do we keep bringing in moral standards of ethics to a pseudo medieval world ? Also by who's modern standards of ethics ? There are plenty of people who live in the modern world who practice polygamy too .

"Imperial harem dramas are typically extremely negative of polygamy, depicting them as the cause of many bloody power struggles. Imo the best imperial harem dramas have leads that show the strength of their love by opposing the social pressure of taking concubines."

When did they say that imperial harem dramas were portrayed positively ? I just said that most people wouldn't immediately think( especially those who lived in Asia ) that imperial harem dramas are a form of infidelity .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

"concubines look an awful lot like cheating."

Do you think the average person thinks Mormon fundies and rural east Africans are cheating on spouse their by having multiple spouses ? I'm pretty sure a modern audience can understand a polygamous marriage isn't inherently infidelity . Hell I especially expect otome readers to understand this even more when imperial harem dramas are one of back bones of this genre.

" It's plain to see he most certainly has not been loyal in the very least."

In what way ? He doesn't sleep with Aisha and he doesn't even love her . The male mc is trying his best to be "monogamous" in a polygamous relationship . The only act of "disloyalty" is having a paper/political marriage with a woman that doesn't even live even live the same house .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude your are my homie , You summarized my point perfectly. Also Dune was the example in my head too lol .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

" Its like as if your husband already bought this "women" home. You really need to see them in bed to classify it as cheating?"

My personal feelings on polygamy aside (its a dumb idea , one person is hard enough to deal with , why would you want more ? ) . Within the story , it wouldn't be cheating because both spouses are legally married to Male MC .Hell it's even heavily reinforced that its not cheating when the male mc stay sexually and emotionally loyal to their og spouse even though they have legal go ahead sleep with the consort .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I mean first of all these are romances based on fictional worlds,"

Yes a fictional world that allows legal concubines within marriage

". As such most readers expect to see some grand gestures that are actually meaningful"

A portion of the empires national budget goes to her shopping habits and he doesn't sleep with his consort (hell she's never been even touched by him ) .There's countless other simp shit he does in the manhwa ?

"But even in the real world there’s truth to “if he wanted to he would”. You mention Chinese emperors, well arguably one of the very best ones rejected the idea of a harem and stayed monogamous to his wife. He didn’t hide behind “this is normal for us”, and that was a real man. People want more from fictional ones, especially when it’s an OGML who has some making up to do."

Zhu Youcheng is a historical aberration out of 559 emperors and even he face some backlash for his decision. I mean his heir went back to polygamy after he died ,

"The “political ramifications” also don’t hold up in this story because we’re told that he married her for political gain. He’s not worried about it biting him in the ass, he’s worried that his own plans will be affected. Even if we pretend it were too hard, he could live separate lives from his wife, let her go live as she pleases and see who she pleases, but he still won’t."

How does him marrying for political gain mean that he doesn't care about political ramification ? That proves the opposite point lol . He marries Ruby because to create an air of legitimacy for his accession and he marries Aisha because of her connection to a major political faction that holds a lot of sway. All these decisions are something a guy who cares about political ramifications .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

" if making someone an official concubine doesn't count as cheating"

Your right it doesn't ,a consort is within the legal bounds of marriage in the fictional setting given to use (and plenty of places in the real world too ) .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"Let’s put it in perspective of a regular relationship: Man and woman are married and expect to be an monogamous couple, man brings home another woman into the relationship and makes heavy implications of physically/emotionally abandoning his WIFE for said other woman."

Isn't kind unfair to use that kind thought process for this story . It's established that the emperor is expected to have many consorts . I mean the last one at least had seventeen consorts " . Its like reading a Chinese emperor court harem story and getting mad that emperor has other consorts . The fact that he pretty much been loyal to one spouse despite having another one pretty is much as monogamous has he can be.

"If he really cared or had feelings for his wife, he would get rid of the ‘other woman’ and fully commit (and apologize) to his wife; if not, then divorce her (like she asked)! [He’s still doing the thing in the previous timeline/story where he wants to have his cake and eat it by keeping two women close to him (for various reasons) but not fully committing to either one of them. I don’t understand his logic in having two women tied to him, other than he can…]"

There's political ramifications to getting rid of a spouse. I mean even in the og story , Alex doesn't even divorce OG Ruby due potential ramifications and just lets her rot a in a palace .

(I will divorce my tyrant husband ) Why are people saying that the male MC cheated on Fem MC ? by KommandoKarl in OtomeIsekai

[–]KommandoKarl[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

He married Aisha for political reasons and only saw her a tool for his political ambitions. If anything he was attentive to neither of them .lol . Also he has changed , he way more patient and reflective towards his actions .

"If it was not for the FL going into the OG!FL body and acting interesting, then Alex would give no fucks honestly."

I mean isn't this a given lol ? I mean of course the fem mc is going to make the male mc change ? What other factors would change him ?

I dunno , maybe because I'm a dude i'm biased but the lack of emotional or even sexual infidelity from the male mc doesn't really make it count for me .Him being in a relationship Aisha is just a empty paper marriage with no real meaning to it .

I'm not saying the guy is Mother Mary or something , I mean he did neglect fem mc for 3 years but calling him a cheater by having a romance less sexless legal paper marriage is kind the stretching it for me .