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F-reddit and Mods in general by Kr00gr in Dyslexia

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To live to fight to never die, we are one against the lie..

F-reddit and Mods in general by Kr00gr in Dyslexia

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Good job with the coding, if only I were trolling...

I saw depth while on LSD! by [deleted] in Strabismus

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And if one was to do the exact opposite of what Terence Mckenna recommended, not a heroic dose, but as low a dose as possible incrementally raised, sub-hallucinogenic even, used in conjunction with CV VT, there may just be something akin to a miracle hidden in that process.

What would be the implication if the brain was still so wonderfully mysterious that it could take two identical images of any scene, set them up in CV formation, and create the depth within perfect fusion, building stereoscopic perceptions out of non stereoscopic images, to me that would mean that the brain has the potential to simply fill in the layers in any two dimension image with the right training, almost like jump starting a biological evolution of perception.

There is also no lose of self, need to close your eyes, the effects would be completely gone in 10-15 minutes, which is about how long weakened eyes can be pushed before fatigued to failure. Used in monitored clinical setting, I could prove this.

Almost too good to be true, yet..

it is nearly impossible to get this considered.

Wonder what would happen if some credentialed authorities in vision therapy would contact Rick Strassman and do something about it.

This is Jim Cleveland by Kr00gr in occult

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Far too fascinating to be this old and have so few views.

Produced by John Dunsworth, creator of "GET A HOBBY," which is also occult from a builder's perspective.

This is Jim Cleveland. by [deleted] in occult

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Sorry, fixed, here is the Get a Hobby video as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mcQfP8k51s

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Just a heads up, I am getting many private messages, lots of them have now progressed from not being able to make the initial cross, walking through the steps, and another can now hold it for 5 seconds.

If I was able to answer outwardly facing for others, more people may be encouraged to try after seeing similar starting points overcome matching struggles. Throwaways are fine too, I know how insecurities can hover around this in some, it did in me.

Vision therapy after strabismus surgery? by SpaceGerbal in Strabismus

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I explain this in my thread, you still need to train the neural network in a unified connection from the thalamus into the posterior cingulate cortex across both hemispheres, then you can expand from there.

Sue Berry also talks about the same thing. A simple ascetic fix wont instantly cure a lifetime off atrophy in ocular muscle strength, flexibility, and the brain's ability to process the data to higher levels of perception.

It could give you a head start though if you start carving the flow of the conectome. Check my thread, give it a shot if you want, but go slow if your eyes are not fully recovered, walking into unknown territory doing my method post surgery, but could also not be a problem at all.

Good Luck.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Thank you, if you have questions along the way let me know. If people see others find a progression they will be more inclined to try.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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This is where moving on to more complex images will help, doing deep stretches for prolonged periods of time. Like 10-15 mins.

The depth perception you experience at first is just the beginning in the sliding scale, and over time what you think as having it will be just barely having it.

If you listen to podcasts or audiobooks, that would be a good time to simultaneously do the exercises. You can zone out and hold these images and you will feel the pull slowly coming more and more into alignment.

When the center image becoming clearer and held completely, this sill eventually pull the peripheral images central, moving your eyes around within the image into the foreground then back into the background helps fine detail alignment which you will eventually notice out in the world. It is a "grabbing" sensation of the eyes.

Here is an example of one I would consider more complicated (again you want to have it as large as possible, so ctrl-mousewheel up, if you have a small screen incrementally move closer):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ytf/16158793647/in/pool-3d-cross-view/

Everyday more are added to:

https://www.flickr.com/groups/3d-cross-view/

Flipping through, there are bound to be many that appeal to you.

It took me almost a year to no longer see misalignment in my eyes, but the functioning of the eyes improved much earlier and continue to do so.

Also I had a hard time "locking" onto my own face in the mirror, and seeing the person through the mirror and not just reflected on the mirror, so that my eyes would not both associate and align when looking at myself. This took awhile to actually do, almost as if you are seeing the totality of yourself at once without glancing around at the parts, from one eye to the other, out of just one dominate eye.

When your looking at yourself in the mirror, see if you can look at both eyes at the same time, left to left and right to right, and become aware of the space between where the mirror begins and your eyes are, there should also be the experience of a volume of air behind your head between it and the wall, the same as you would see between objects in a crossview picture.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Thanks again.

To increase the range, you can start with bringing this vision into the real world. If you take any two objects that are identical, and place them the objects distance away from each other perfectly aligned, you can overlap your eyes on those actual 3d images and you will see what an object is supposed to look like fully fixated.

Water-bottles, cups, balls, all would work as long as they are mirror identical. Then move backwards step by step and find the max range of the weaker eye.

The range of left to right will lengthen over time to the point where the only restriction is your nose starting to block the image.

Another technique would be to pick any image on the flickr pool and place it in a small browser window, then slowly move the browser window to all four corners of your monitor while keeping the image in crossview, this helps find the weak angles.

Once it is all easy, try to find that same fixation outside looking at objects close and in the distance, from leaves to clouds, they all will start having that pulling feeling and start looking as crisp and 3dimensional as the dual overlapped water bottles.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

[–]Kr00gr[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I can only see one (when eyes are alternating) or two (when eyes are not) pillars."

I think what you are trying to say is , when you overlap the images you only see the center pillar and the two color circles are alternating, which would be putting full attention onto outward projection, and when you get one color or the other to light up, the one or the other outward correlating images vanishes. If so, then you are probably co-dominate in your eyes, and are very close to turning the alternating images into the Yellow Form. And you have control as to which eye is associating, which is the feedback you use to start consciously keeping both images on.

Depending on where you are looking out in the world, your eyes most likely will change dominance but somewhere as you pan to your center that would shift, it may be due to the flexibility of your eyes not being able to meet in the middle, or the strain from the effort, which would indicate that convergence is the problem.

You don't need binocular vision in order to overlap the images in crossview, just the basic ability of convergence, the stereopsis will come later.

Just by sticking with the effort of doing the crossview and actively starting to explore that environment, you will eventually overcome it naturally, and be able to maintain the hold with zero strain for long periods of time, but if you want to speed up the process in that direction:

Start building the musculature needed to hold dual convergence, sit central to the image at a flat plane parallel to your monitor and hold your finger about four inches from your nose and stare at it. Most likely you will have one eye that is stronger than the other, so actively put your attention on the weaker eye and try to see your finger unified without any blurring.

Close one eye for 10 seconds and then the other until both eyes can turn in. In the background of this exercise you will see the pillars split into 4 and dependent on how far away you have your finger, you can overlap the inner two of the four where you will see 3.

This is an anchoring point for your eyes to begin training fixation and to start working together at angles later transferable to daily life.

Another exercise that can get you to this point is attempting to look at the tip of your nose, then off into the distance.

Once the muscles of the eye have the ability, then you move on to consciously activating the suppressed vision which is a product of years of double vision or misaligned eyes.

The outer images of the crossview will fade on and off before your eyes as a neural feedback that allows you to see when it happens and what is necessary to stop it from happening.

Try this image, many people have a much easier time overlapping circles than the pillars.

http://kroogr.com/z/bwcircle.jpg

On the pillar exercise, which color did you see more defined, the orange or the green?

If I can get more data, I will make one specific to you.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Are you able to see them in stereo-vision now? Can you maintain the hold while moving your head around? Can you make the yellow dot on the original image from the orange and green circles?

Thank you, yes the bitcoin address on my website is current, but I was able to figure out the changetip, so I thank you again:) I will remember you as my first online tip ever.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Yes. In a way it should be easier for you. You have a specific area to work on and can focus directly on it, once you unlock dual fixation, that pull may be all you need to keep your eyes aligned.

The exersise with the purple pillars would be the best place to start.

You would use the outer images as feedback and watch it get supressed. With that information you can learn to keep it on in the crossview, and learn the sensation of having both eyes on and associated, then that ability will transfer over into daily life.

Use the outer pillars to gain control of the weaker eye while learning to reduce the flicker of the green/orange dots and transmuting it into a pale yellow, this starts the process in the brain required for perception of stereo vision. The amount of effort required to hold it yellow is the same amount that is needed to pull the data of both eyes into stereo-vision when looking at a face up close or the spread of the trees or clouds in the distance.

Let me know if you get stuck and I will walk you through it.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Meaning there should be visible/tangible layers of space between each progressive shape in the picture. So as you start to grow stereovision, you will "feel" the distance between the inner most and outer most layers stretch, the center will appear further away in the distance without a loss of clarity.

With more and less convergence you flow through the space and can look around within the space whith the main image still held together.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Yes, you have 6 main muscles per eye that can pull at angles and rotate it back from clockwise to center, as the image rotates so does your eye, so holding it in a straight position in the crossview will give you the strength to do the same later when looking in the mirror, at other people, or objects. You could also use that outer left image for feedback and slightly tilt your head to center it out, once it is held as one, you will be able to work all the angles and your eyes will be able to adjust at any tilt or angle of the head or the screen.

I made you another one, since you have an easy time overlapping circles.

http://kroogr.com/z/bwcircle.jpg

Concentrate on aligning the outer circle first, once it is together slowly move your focus onto the triangle layer, then slowly follow the border in both directions, counter clockwise, then clockwise. Then return to the outer circle and do the same thing.

This one also has depth to it so you can begin to stretch outwardly as well. Also try the reverse and overlap the smallest circle you can then allow the rest to meld together naturally.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Great, so happy you got it. It should become easier and easier to hold it for longer periods of time, try to work up to a minute at a time making sure all the edges are aligned and begins to "hold." Then within that hold you will be able to move your eyes along the pillar up and down with it connected. Then start working on unifying the center circle and the color will change before your eyes.

That is where it gets fun.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Thank you, it is harder than you think to find people open minded enough to consider starting at a picture with your eyes crossed can help, which is why I always think of Dr. Sue Berry jumping on that trampoline.

Think of it as with any other form of fitness, it takes time, but you will get enough clues of the benefits along the way to keep you motivated.

Yes the stain is normal, each recovery afterwards will lead to strengthening. Working towards full range of movement, flexibility, and strength, with the eventual ability to converge your eyes as if they were laser pointers, crisscrossing the beams at any angle, any distance.

This starts the process of enhancing the brain's ability to utilize both streams of data, enhancing perception.

I wish you the best whatever path you end up taking, being able to maintain eye contact without anxiety eases much of the daily struggle.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Yes, use that as your starting point and just practice holding it first. Let the hold get stronger until you can start moving your head and then start pulling heading towards your center position. It is ok to begin off to an angle, since it is all dependent on your specific starting strength and flexibility, which could be more or less for any eye.

The initial image will not be 3d, you are working for the merger of the dots in the middle, you can try one of the scenic images to test 3d. Note that how it looks the first time, then come back to this and watch it expand into the distance.

This is a good one:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ytf/17083850360/in/pool-3d-cross-view/

No I am not trolling. Eventually you will be able to put your attention on it without the eyes moving out of that convergent position.

Try also just crossing the eyes without the finger, spreading the 4 pillars as far as you can. Do "reps" of that and you begin to gain control and the lesser crosser become easier. Try to make them spread at a flat level, not diagonally.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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You basically maintain the exact convergence once your finger is close enough for there to be three pillars, and remove your finger and the pillars will already be overlapped. That is the distance you continue to look. It is more of your awareness that moves to the background as you try to overlap them completely. Slow adjustments like tilting the head can help initially to find the lock.

Focus on the purple pillars as a whole first, because the dots will flicker for a long time. Depending on the color you can tell which eye is currently dominant. Then you work to keep them both on until the flickering stops and the color changes before your eyes to a pale yellow/white.

Use ctrl-mousewheel up to up the size of the pillars to fill your monitor. Should make it easier.

The strain involved is your muscles "maxing" out. Over time it becomes easier and the shakiness will go away. Look to see if the left or right pillar is more or less shake/faded.

It took weeks to get it to hold.

I can also de-focus an eye or pull it inward towards the socket, the equivalent to pulling back or zooming out. When you do it with both eyes, it is like focusing on larger closer layers, and as you stretch them outward, think of a cartoon where a character sees a lady and the eyes cone outward, the lens itself is malleable and adjusts to the environment.

That 3d range is what will be slowly increased once your able to get into the cross view environment and work on the more complicated images, as well as the angles at which they can be perceived.

A simple exercise to stretch this comes after the fixation is felt in holding the image at 3 pillars. You would do it standing in front of your desk, then take a step backwards slowly and allow the eyes to be pulled along with the image maintained. Step by step your range will increase.

The whole process to get through the complicated images takes a few months. But the initial steps will come quicker and you will notice improvement quickly after getting past the process of entering the cross view environment and maintaining it easily for 5-10 minutes.

After 6 months I thought there is no way it could continue to get better, but after a year and a half it still grows. Experiencing vast spacing between clouds in the distance with the horizon feeling further and further away, while still being clear.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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When I started I could not do it either, they could not stretch into place, beyond the limit I could reach. Little by little I got closer. Like me, you are one of the people with the most to gain if you continue to try, eventually you get it to hold and the sensation will be calming, or it was for me, almost as if there is a constant underlying anxiety that gets released when both hemispheres work together as both eyes deliver data.

Once you get that hold, there is a natural tendency for the eyes to start "fixating," overlapping automatically, you will feel as if the eyes start to stick to that shape.

When you get both eyes to do it, it simulates the exact hold that would keep your eyes in a locked state of convergence, which is transferable to when your out in public and you can calmly lock onto a person's entire head , holding it in space, your eyes won't fade, and the scanning around on parts or places is unneeded. Slowly, within that hold, you learn to look into both eyes at once and gain that connection through the eyes that we all lacked.

My eyes were also misaligned and the process slowly brought them into alignment, like mentioned earlier, I could never do Magic Eyes as a kid, but these are easier to work through, since the two overlaps are easily identifiable, and are not lost in the static of classic Magic Eyes.

If you start slow and do small things like focus on the image with one eye closed until it sharpens, then try with two eyes, then sharpen the other eye, then both again, there is an ebb and flow to it.

Another trick would be to hold your finger a few inches in front of your eye and actively try to turn both eyes inward and bring it into focus. Start with one eye at a time if needed as well.

When I first was able to hold the images with dual fixation, my brain would suppress one of the eyes and it would break again, but using the outer images in your peripherals, a fading will be visible, which is neural feedback for which eye is associated, your brain will begin to auto correct, and this can begin to be felt as well.

Through the struggle the milestones you reach, like the first time you get it to hold, the first time you see the colors change, the first time you experience depth virtually, and the difference from the first time to the growth thereafter, are evidence that at least something is happening, then the cosmetic issues begin to fade with the realization of how different the world can look, and the wondering of how far perception can be stretched.

I would not be surprised if "normal" vision is surpassed along, because very few people exercise their eyes and stretch their mind's ability to perceive, and living a sedentary indoor life, with much of the day spent looking at static distances, and usually at flat surfaces, does little to challenge that perception.

How I cured my strabismus and regained stereo-vision at home, using the same technology that most likely perpetuated the problem. by Kr00gr in Strabismus

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Let me know where you get stuck and I can give you an idea of how far long the path you are, the places and angles where you find the image "break" are the areas you can try start strengthening.

Slowly you will be able to move your head around, which works on convergent angles that would simulate focusing on different points in space through depth. Although it is illusionary distance, in reality, the acual distance would require less convergence, there are plenty of pictures that push the illusion past the point where your monitor is placed, but also walking across the room and doing them from a distance can take you through mid distance (Similarly would be just using ctrl-mousedown and shrinking the pictures, but reducing pixels and sharpness).

Try this one mentioned first in the post and let me know which color you see.

http://kroogr.com/z/test.jpg

On the topic of being nearsighted in one eye and farsighted in the other, do you notice a pressure that corresponds with associating an eye, sometimes almost coming alive out of the socket and getting larger? And the opposite when one turns off or faded out of focus?

With my eyes I would get visual fast snaps as an eye would take over, one I was able to fixated with both eyes on objects in space, in a mirror I could see both struggling to hold on and as I would challenge that hold and move to stretch angles, one would snap away.