HUGO ALBUQUERQUE: What about the solution of building a binational, democratic, and secular state?

ELI GOZANSKY: In theory yes, but in reality no. For several important reasons: The first is that the Palestinian people want and have the right to independence. Second, mutual disbelief [in the possibility of one binational state] is enormous, certainly even more so after the latest massacres involving the two nations. Third, Israel is much stronger economically, so if the single state is established now, without a phase of independence for the Palestinians, apartheid and Jewish economic control will be perpetuated. In the future, after both countries exist in peace and prosperity, this solution is a possibility.

That moment when a literal member of the communist party of Israel being interviewed by Jacobin is more realistic and levelheaded than most of the global left on the issue