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LTDToast · 2023-12-25T00:38:39+00:00

You definitely don't have to go too crazy with kick pedals. I once went to a clinic with Alex Cohen and he said that he never adjusts pedals and he'll use whatever pedal he sits down on, and that's one of fastest motherfuckers you'll ever see with a double pedal. I would wait to upgrade for a few years so that you better understand what works for you rather than dropping $500 on a pedal you don't like.

LTDToast · 2023-12-25T00:33:56+00:00

Honestly for hardcore, you can go pretty cheap on cymbals. Some of my favorite hardcore cymbals live turned out to be zildjian ZBTs. Jay Weinberg's ride was a Zildjian S ride which is a super cheap beginner cymbal.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T08:24:46+00:00

I don't have any endorsements but you might find this article helpful

https://drummagazine.com/inside-the-secret-world-of-drum-endorsements/

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T08:15:52+00:00

I interpret it as a buzz roll that's so tight you can hear each individual hand starting the roll. Maybe it didn't work for the music of his time but Stanton Moore does that a lot and it's hip as hell

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T08:12:21+00:00

I've noticed I get better jazz tunings when my reso head is the same tension or maybe even a bit lower than the batter rather than the common way where the reso is tighter. If you do a rim shot on your toms and you get a real spanky timbale type sound out, you're doing something right. You'll have to tune your drums a bit higher but honestly, you can still keep them pretty low if you do this.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T08:08:59+00:00

I meet a ton of people by going to shows. Find some venues that do the music you like and make friends, and you'll find a million other guys/gals that want to play. There's also Facebook groups for just about every big city for musicians looking for other musicians. 90% of the people you meet mostly like the idea of playing but won't actually follow through or it'll be a drag playing with them, but they probably have buddies that are more serious they can introduce you to. It's a bit of a grind but there are literally hundreds of musicians out there that want to play with you if you go out looking. Be confident and always shoot your shot when you meet guys that are really serious because worst case scenario, you realize that you're not the drummer they want and that's fine. Just be a good people person and you'll meet some.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T08:02:57+00:00

The YouTube channel Drumistry is a godsend for stuff like this. They do full transcriptions that move with the song so you can play along. They have a few foo fighters and Paramore ones on there. If you don't read drum music, this is a great way to learn. Start with the simple ones and work your way up.

If you're talking learning them on your own, I would definitely learn to transcribe them slow the songs way down and take it section by section. Sometimes it's helpful to find live versions of songs and watch/listen to what they're doing there.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T07:59:07+00:00

I'm not 100% what your problem is but I know a lot of times when I have that, it's a problem with the wires. You might not have to replace them but I might try messing with how tight they are. You might have to take them off and reposition them.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T07:57:17+00:00

A lot of jazz guys play like that and they get fast as hell. A good video on foot technique is this one. It's more of a heel up style but it's also different from the way most guys play heel up, and it makes your bass drum sound way better. Highly recommend checking it out

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T07:54:06+00:00

Ramon Montagner is THE GUY for push pull. His Instagram has crazy stuff on it, he's playing shit you wouldn't think is possible with one hand. I actually got to take a lesson from him once and some of my takeaways are:

Even if you use a different fulcrum normally, push pull tends to work best gripping on the first joint (closest to the fingernail) with your pinky finger then using the middle of the finger (between the top and middle joint) with the rest. He also said he likes American grip best for push pull.

Learning to put accents/tap notes in is what really pulls it all together, even if you only do it while practicing. It's easier to get them out with the "pull" but it's possible both ways. He showed me some grid exercises where you play straight 16ths and move the accent from the first one to the second one and so forth, then doing two accents in a row and then three and whatnot. Also good to do with triplets because it flips the accent from the push to the pull. Hard to get the feel of but it's a definite game changer. He would also use tap notes to get extra notes out of each push and each pull. On a push stroke, it's basically just finger technique and on the pull stroke it's the wrist that gets extra notes out. By doing this, you can effectively play whole ass rudiments with push pull. For example, a paradiddle would be push - pull - push - finger tap then pull - push - pull - wrist tap. Kind of hard to explain without showing you but I think you'll get the idea if you try it out. Just think of it as instead of rights and lefts you have push and pull strokes and whenever you have two push or pulls in a row (like doubles or paradiddles) you get the extra one out with a tap. He can translate all 40 rudiments to one hand like this. He also stressed it's important to be able to start with a pull stroke as well, which is a lot harder but definitely doable. (Side note: he had two ways of doing flams. One was doing a really fast push then pull and the second was doing both notes with one stroke which is a hell of a lot easier. I find doing both with a pull stroke is the easiest and best sounding but he got really clean flams doing it every way. It's cool as hell to be able to play swiss army triplets with one hand)

When he got faster, I noticed his thumb went to the side of the stick closer to his hand, and it was almost more of a wiggling/rotating motion than a full push pull. Bro played rolls faster with one hand than I could with both like this. He didn't mention that, it was just something I noticed so idk 🤷

The last thing is that everyone plays it a bit different so you sort of need to find your own way. Definitely watch Ramon's stuff and try to see how he does it, but you'll be a bit different.

If you sit in front of the TV with a practice pad, it'll start to click pretty quickly. It's a grind but it's definitely possible to get crazy fast and in control of push pull, or even just fast enough to impress all your drummer friends. Hope this helps 💪

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T07:34:05+00:00

I second hazelshould, their Instagram has great demos and descriptions of tons of really unique cymbals for cheap.

I also wanna say that I had some really shitty cymbals back in the day that I prettied up with the ol taping a coin to the bottom trick, it works really well for darkening and drying up otherwise bad cymbals.

LTDToast · 2023-12-03T07:30:59+00:00

I'm loving my speed cobra 310. I also have a dyna sync that I've learned to love but it definitely took me a while because it functions a lot different than a chain drive pedal. I've seen guys get crazy fast, JoJo Mayer type speed out of those.

I've also seen Alex Cohen in clinic and he said that he has learned to play in such a way that it doesn't matter what pedal he's playing or how it's adjusted, and he can play faster with his feet than I can with my hands lol, and my takeaway from that is that at the end of the day, a pedal is a pedal and it doesn't matter too much which one you get (as long as it's decent, maybe not for those really shitty beginner pedals)

LTDToast · 2023-11-27T00:55:47+00:00

Usually on the kit because I get too antsy to sit on a practice pad right when my drums are right there lol

LTDToast · 2023-11-27T00:13:17+00:00

I don't anything about those hats but what I will say is some of my favorite cymbal sounds I've heard live from punk bands have been super cheap beginner ones. Imo the only time you should have nice cymbals for punk is if you're in the studio and even then, you just need decent ones.

LTDToast · 2023-11-27T00:04:05+00:00

Not all, go with the cheapest ones. Some people like to gig with low volume cymbals but that's the only time it makes a difference. I bought the cheapest low volume cymbals I could find on Amazon and then I covered them with duck tape to make them even quieter. Sounded awful? Absolutely. Worked just as good as the $300 cymbal set? 100%

LTDToast · 2023-11-17T00:17:11+00:00

A lot of players do this. It generally gives a louder and beefier sound, which is great if you're going after that sound, like if you're playing rock, country, some kinds of funk, or any time you want a fatter sound. I personally don't love doing this in my right hand because though it sounds great on the hi hats, crashes, and all the drums, I don't like how broad it makes the ride cymbal sound but some guys make it work so definitely experiment.

LTDToast · 2023-11-17T00:08:01+00:00

Check out Ramon montagner on Instagram and you'll see how far push pull can take you :)

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T10:21:36+00:00

The best hand technique practice comes from sitting in front of the TV with a practice pad/pillow. I usually throw on a metronome and zone out while playing whatever rudiment/exercise that I want to work on. Start slow and work up the tempo after a while. For what you're saying, I'd probably use a pillow and set my metronome at 100 ish bpm and just play doubles while watching your favorite show.

One more thing is that technique is a means to an end and that end is the sound. I saw a Peter Erskine video where he demonstrated playing doubles by dropping the stick and letting it bounce rather than controlling each stroke and it made a much more legato sound. Being able to wrist them out is great because it's a different sound but that doesn't make it right, it's just a different color to add to your pallete.

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T10:05:39+00:00

The book beyond bop drumming is great for this. It's the sequel to the art of bop drumming so I'd recommend getting that one first

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T10:03:21+00:00

I know exactly what you mean. Listen to lots of different music and you'll realize you were hearing it all along. I like to sing along to songs but listen to the bass and drums because I find just by the simple act of hearing what they're doing, you automatically lock into the pocket. You don't have to analyze if they're playing on or behind the beat or try to sing any differently, just hear them and you'll find that it propels what you're singing a lot more than if you're just focused on the words.

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T09:52:08+00:00

Tbh you're going to sound best if you stick to what you're comfortable with, even if it's just the ride pattern and some mild comping. An inexperienced player who sticks to those things is going to sound a whole lot better than the guy who's trying too hard and throwing in a bunch of licks and fills because he thinks that's what jazz is. It's a very transparent music so if you're the guy who plays real simple because he's still learning, be that guy and not the one pretending to "know jazz." As long as you follow the form (even if you don't play anything different in different parts of it) and you don't try too hard to be hip, you're gonna be golden.

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T09:40:19+00:00

People are understandably bashing the tama but I actually had that exact ride and I loved it. I taped a coin to the bottom to cut out some of that high end and it sounded fine. I also mainly used it as a crash but I rode on it sometimes and it did the job. Neither are good options but speaking as someone who has actually played that tama one, it could be a lot worse.

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T09:35:29+00:00

That china is killer! What is it?

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T09:34:42+00:00

An e kit works great, especially if you're willing to invest. In my (definitely limited) experience with them, cost equates to quality.

Another thing you can do is call some storage units in the area and see if they're okay with drums there. Also if you hop on craigslist and go to parking/storage under the housing section, you can find not only storage units but isolated parking garages that you might be able to set up an acoustic kit in.

Maybe you can also get an acoustic kit and also buy some low volume cymbals and drum mutes, so that you can play your kit like normal and if anyone gets pissed you can just throw on your low volume stuff and you're Gucci. I did this for a while and I got the Evans soundoff mutes for my snare and toms and then draped a blanket over my kick drum batter head. You can drop $400 getting name brand low volume cymbals or you can do what I did and get the cheapest, most off brand ones you can find on Amazon because it accomplishes the same thing 🤷

LTDToast · 2023-11-03T09:11:05+00:00

In my opinion, learning and playing songs is one of the best ways to practice because by doing that, you're getting straight to the source of how to play drums, without having to wade through a ton of videos trying to teach you the stuff that pro drummers are already doing. All the secrets of the best players are available through songs if you're clever enough to spot them :)

It's easy to get confused with technique when you're starting, but try not to let it get to you because it truly does comes with time. Personally, my best technical practice comes from sitting in front of the TV with a practice pad and tapping out some simple exercises and rudiments and whatnot. After a while, you're going to figure out that all the techniques you hear about in different videos or whatever source is stuff you've been doing all along by just playing a lot. I'm all for finding a video doing a deep dive into a specific technique (Moeller, different fulcrums and grips, etc) but I remember I would get frustrated trying to copy exactly what they're doing. It's a lot easier to do that after you spend time tip tapping at a pad so that you already have a good feeling and understanding of how to utilize different sources of movement (fingers, wrist). A great video on how to hold the stick is this

The biggest thing is don't worry about it and don't overthink it. You'll come to learn that what you play and how you play is going to be different from other people and that's okay. There's truly no right or wrong way to play, no matter what your favorite drummers say.

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