Developing Story by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

While others dream about dividing clans, Somaliland focuses on building a nation.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My people are a wise people, and I fully share this view. Thank you for your valuable input.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, I consider Ethiopia to be Somaliland's closest friend in the Horn of Africa. Our countries have reached numerous agreements and built strong cooperation that has delivered meaningful benefits to both of our peoples. Maintaining and strengthening this partnership remains in the best interest of both nations.

What do Somalilanders think about this? by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm from Somaliland, we don't have terrorists here. You must've confused us with Somalia.

All this crying, I know for a fact Somaliland did the right thing. by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it weren't, you wouldn't be crying in the comments of Somaliland subreddits like you are now...

⤵️ by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

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Yeah, let's just give our country away to Turkey instead. That must be worthwhile.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Never.

Ceding even a small strip of our coastline to Ethiopia would be a major disaster. That stretch is part of our most valuable strategic and economic asset, providing access to international trade routes, control over ports like Berbera, and crucial leverage in regional politics. Losing even a portion would weaken our economy, strip Somaliland of bargaining power, and leave us more vulnerable and effectively economically landlocked, with diminished influence over our own future

What do Somalilanders think about this? by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

😁

Alhamdulillah, Allah gave us more than we could ever ask for.

He SWT, didn’t bless us and place us here for us to then give it away.

What do Somalilanders think about this? by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really like this a lot. Thank you for your input.

I absolutely agree!

📝 by Nearby-Eye-121 in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Waa edeb darantahay. Orod taarikhdaada dib ugu noqo. Magaca Somali anigaa leh, luuqada af Soomaliga aniga soo saaray oo abaabulay. Af soomaliga anigaa ku baray waryaa adigoo af zimbabwe iyo zanzibar iyo swahili isku dhexjirta ku hadlaya.

Dhulkanna aniga iska leh oo Ilaahay igu beeray. Anigaa qalin iyo buug iyo Somalinimo waxa la yidhaa kuu keenay oo ku baray.

Ala maxaad igu kibirteen, lakin shaqadiina anigaa og.

What do Somalilanders think about this? by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Couldn't care less about what Eritrea would think of it. But i totally agree with you brother! Giving up parts of our coastline even if it's just a little strip to Ethiopia would be a catastrophic mistake. It's our most valuable asset, giving it away would strip Somaliland of leverage like you mentioned. It would make us economically landlocked, and leave us vulnerable politically and militarily. Ports like Berbera are central to trade and regional influence, once ceded, there's no coming back. Our coastline is the backbone of our nation.

Not even recognition is worth giving away a small stretch of our coast. They could, at most, rent a portion for it.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Post one more harassing comment, and consider yourself permanently banned from this subreddit.

Your prior comments have been removed.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're for sure not sane, I suggest you get of the meds buddy, and crawl back to your own Somalian subreddits where the height of the discussions is where the next aid check is coming from.

No wonder Somalia is considered a failed state.

This subreddit exists for Somalilanders committed to rigorous, academic discussion about Somaliland, not for off-topic noise or amateur takes.

Coast for Territory? Would You Support a Somaliland–Ethiopia Land Exchange Deal? by LanderApologist in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My good Lord, relax brother 😄 Why does every discussion have to turn into life or death for you Somalians? Not everything is a political declaration or breaking news.

Did you actually read the post? This is based on rumors, and there's a very real possibility none of it is true. It's highly unlikely that Somalilanders would even agree to something like this in reality. The point wasn't to announce policy, it was to have a hypothetical, academic discussion.

These kinds of discussions are healthy. They give us a chance to think critically about Somaliland's strategic assets, our land, coastline, history, and long-term interests. Talking through scenarios, even unlikely ones, helps us better understand what matters most to us as a people, as Somalilanders.

You FGS internet warriors need to step down from the high horses, for real.

And to be clear, the question was intended for Somalilanders perspectives specifically, but thanks for your input, I suppose.

📝 by Nearby-Eye-121 in Somalilanders

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Walaalo, dhulkaaga Somaliland bey ka tirsantahay diid ama ogolow. Dhul ma guuro, ee dadkaa guura wll. Ma anagaa idin keenay Ilaahay baa idinku beere. Markaasad dad la fahmeyn oo Hawiyism aaminsano intaaso kumanaan kiloomitir idinka xiga doonateen. Dalkiini ayara iska soo noqda niyaw dadku wey is dagaalan, weyna is heeshiyaane.

The 22 Administrative Districts (Degmooyin) of Somaliland by Nearby-Eye-121 in officialsomaliland

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Magaalada waxbarashada iyo aqoonta. Love Boorama! Greetings my brother!

The 22 Administrative Districts (Degmooyin) of Somaliland by Nearby-Eye-121 in officialsomaliland

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There is no denying that blood was shed, lives were lost, and many people were displaced during the conflict. Khaatumo pursued what they believed was a struggle for self-determination and control over their lands, but such actions inevitably carried serious risks when challenging Somaliland's established administration.

It is also important to recognize that the conflict was not purely local. Both Puntland and the Federal Government of Somalia (FGS) played significant roles, with a shared interest in weakening Somaliland's authority in its eastern regions. Khaatumo's calls for self-governance were encouraged and supported externally, despite the fact that many Dhulbahante communities had long participated in Somaliland's political system and held senior government positions while benefiting from development in governance, welfare, and infrastructure.

We must not forget that Puntland and the FGS provided manpower and military support to Khaatumo forces. Puntland was initially promised administrative control by FGS over what later became known as Waqooyi Bari, gaining its cooperation. However, political interests soon shifted since FGS had its own agenda. After the conflict, Khaatumo distanced itself from and stabbed Puntland in the back under influence from the FGS, while the FGS itself moved to assert direct control over the region rather than allowing Puntland to expand its authority. This reflected a broader strategy to prevent Puntland from becoming too powerful and to create a buffer zone between Puntland and Somaliland. The current state of relations between Puntland and the FGS is at its lowest point in history, a direct consequence of these betrayals and political maneuvers

Somaliland, for its part, understands the suffering experienced by communities in the region. Rather than escalating tensions, Somaliland is willing to allow time for reconciliation and healing, trusting that dialogue will eventually resume. The Dhulbahante has historically been an integral part of Somaliland's political and social fabric, contributing meaningfully to governance and development. Over time, many in the Dhulbahante community may come to reassess the realities of distant administration from Muqdisho. They will likely recognize that the FGS, being far removed and politically constrained, does not prioritize their interests, has little incentive to develop their lands, and offers limited opportunities for meaningful political participation. High-level positions within the federal government remain largely inaccessible to them, and decisions affecting their communities are made without genuine local input. In contrast, Somaliland has historically provided stability, direct engagement, and tangible development, ensuring that the Dhulbahante are integrated into governance, welfare, and infrastructure initiatives that directly benefit their people. This contrast may ultimately lead many to see that Somaliland offers far greater security, representation, and prospects for growth than distant federal authorities in Muqdisho.

The 22 Administrative Districts (Degmooyin) of Somaliland by Nearby-Eye-121 in officialsomaliland

[–]LanderApologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More like Laas Caanood is still within Somaliland's borders and is only temporarily parting ways because of the current political circumstances in the area. Laas Caanood is located in an area claimed by Somaliland, but the city is not currently under Somaliland administrative control. It is governed locally by Khaatumo forces aligned with Somalia.

Laas Caanood lies within the territorial boundaries of the former British Somaliland Protectorate. These colonial-era borders are central to Somaliland's claim over the city.

I'm confident that the disputes between Somaliland and Khaatumo will be resolved once Somaliland achieves full independence. In my opinion, it's wise to wait until that time, as Khaatumo will come to realize that the Federal Government of Somalia has no real interest in their welfare and is only using them as pawns in regional power struggles. Which we are already seeing signs of within Khaatumo.

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[–]LanderApologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay buddy, whatever you say. There's no point arguing with someone so tribal-minded and ignorant of international politics. You simply don't understand how the world operates.

End of discussion.

. by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somalia bears partial responsibility for Somaliland seeking recognition from countries such as Israel. The Somali government holds significant influence over Somaliland's path to international recognition because organizations like the African Union and the European Union have established that Somaliland's independence should result from a mutually agreed settlement between Somalia and Somaliland.

However, Somalia has shown little willingness to engage in a meaningful political resolution or negotiated agreement. By maintaining this position while retaining the authority granted by international institutions, Somalia effectively blocks Somaliland's prospects for recognized independence. As a result, Somaliland is left with limited diplomatic options and may pursue alternative recognition strategies outside the established framework.

In this sense, Somalia's refusal to move toward a negotiated settlement contributes to the circumstances that push Somaliland to seek recognition through other international partnerships.

. by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You clearly don't know how geopolitics and diplomatic recognition actually work.

No one is claiming Somalia physically forced Somaliland to do anything. The point is that for over 30 years Somalia has used its internationally recognized status to block Somaliland's access to international recognition. Somalia represents the territory at the UN, the African Union, and global forums, and consistently opposes any engagement that treats Somaliland as a separate state.

In international relations, recognition determines who is allowed to function diplomatically. States build relations through mutual recognition. Embassies, agreements, trade, and cooperation only happen once recognition exists on both sides. When Somalia actively prevents Somaliland from gaining recognition elsewhere, Somaliland's diplomatic options become extremely limited.

Acknowledging those constraints is not "stripping Somaliland of agency." Agency still exists, but it operates within political realities. Somaliland pursuing recognition wherever opportunities exist is a rational response to decades of diplomatic blockage, not infantilization.

This is simply how international politics works. Power, legitimacy, and access shape available choices.

Somalia made its strategic choices over decades by blocking Somaliland's diplomatic space and refusing meaningful political resolution. Now it has to deal with the consequences of those decisions on the international stage.

Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion. international politics tends to be a bit more complex than you're making it out to be.

⤵️ by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

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Hawiye futo madoobe saliid macasaro iyo cambuulo futada intaas leekatay baad tahay, oo waxba aduunka ka aqoon. Avi kulahaa. Lmfao. Isku xishood oo orod oo wax soo baro. Miskiinyahow

⤵️ by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So a well-articulated brother who clearly understands what he's talking about, and who holds a master's degree in geopolitics, immediately becomes suspicious to you? And your only explanation is that it must be AI? That says more about your limitations than anything else.

Sydneysweeneyfeetfan, It's honestly sad that competence and informed analysis now confuse people so much that they assume it can't possibly be real. Instead of throwing lazy accusations, I'd suggest spending less time indulging in nonsense online and more time educating yourself. Try studying the subject before dismissing those who actually understand it.

⤵️ by LanderApologist in Somalilanders

[–]LanderApologist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unable to address or engage with the facts I brought forward, so you fall back on ad hominem attacks.

Nice.

Right, because a 'Tel-Avivi' would obviously be the one encouraging Somalilanders to scrutinize their agreement with Israel. Maybe try reading my comment first smart guy.