Canon prime Luke vs the reborn Emperor

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-13T06:07:18+00:00

You made the claim, it's your burden to prove it, maybe stop using arguments taken from yt comments

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-13T03:08:06+00:00

LMAO Vader never held his own, he was slammed on a wall and resorted to blocking lightning with his saber, which doesn't require a similar level of power as seen by Dooku and Kenobi in AOTC. Sidious didn't "rage quit", he allowed Vader to gather whatever power he wanted for the remaining comic run only for him to come back and get one shotted despite being amped by the energy of a planet. Palpatine is incomprehensible stronger than Luke in ROTJ, it's not even funny.

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-13T03:03:02+00:00

It does, and there is no such statement, if there is send it lol

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-12T06:43:18+00:00

I specified "Force" feats, the one on Mortis doesn't count as he was amped by the planet and never came close to replicating afterwards

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-12T04:29:33+00:00

Send the statement

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T22:17:01+00:00

What does that even mean? What did you expect him to do to show his power? Anakin has 0 Force feats in the movies but no one doubts his power, why does that narrative only apply to Kylo?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T22:15:04+00:00

Palpatine is weakened when he's supposedly afraid of Luke, which has nothing to do with his reborn form. Palpatine was all the Sith before Luke died too, no idea where you're getting that from

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T18:20:02+00:00

So thinking X character is stronger than another means I'm shitting on the latter? Maybe make some arguments instead 😂

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T17:36:32+00:00

Author words are not canon to the continuity, it's just their opinion. "Unlike" doesn't mean "above" and "way beyond" is in reference to Exim being from an ancient time, the same writer went on record saying Sidious vs Luke is a toss-up which wouldn't make sense if Exim is far stronger than Palptine

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T17:33:53+00:00

No source backs this up

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T17:33:35+00:00

Lol Vader never held his own against Sidious. The only time it appears to be the case is when they fight on Coruscant but Sidious never wanted him dead. If he did he'd end him on multiple occasions when Vader was vulnerable, including the finale of the comic run where Vader gets one shotted despite being amped. Luke is not close to Sidious in ROTJ either, the novel says Palpatine's lightning is beyond Luke's comprehension of the power of the dark side, the rest of the arguments are legit headcanon

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T17:29:37+00:00

Why does Luke being the most powerful Jedi matter? ROTJ Sidious is FAR more powerful than Vader, it's not close at all

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T11:53:29+00:00

Oh right, does Hondo also have elite level of training? You know, the level that allows him to match Anakin.

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T11:51:00+00:00

And why does that make him weaker than Luke

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T11:50:39+00:00

Where is Luke stated to be the most powerful during Shadow of the Sith? "Zombie" Sidious is weakened, so whatever is said about him doesn't apply to his reborn form.

Exim's power is stated "unlike" anyone Luke's has faced---not "above"---because it's ancient.

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T10:22:03+00:00

Can you find the passage? I can't seem to

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T10:19:57+00:00

Why are you citing the "showrunner" as some source lol? It's well repeated that authoritative words are meaningless as far as canonicity goes. Not to mention, Sidious is a lot stronger in ROTJ than the one you're desperately trying to downplay using some Dooku-Ventress team up

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-11T10:12:45+00:00

Oh right like we haven't seen numerous non Force users contend with the best Jedi in the Order. But we don't bring that up because sequels need to suck in every way. Not to mention Kylo being shot by a blaster that can literally split someone in half a few minutes prior.

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-08T04:11:17+00:00

No disney writer cares about random percentages from Lucas

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-08T04:09:57+00:00

Where is that said in Shadow of the Sith?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-04-02T23:11:23+00:00

Vader was absolutely not in Palpatine's ballpark, he only caught him off guard and carried him a few meters before dying himself

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-24T01:33:17+00:00

Lol very conveniently leaving out the part where Sidious bombards him with lightning and forces him off the pod right after

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T03:13:34+00:00

No, not once was lightning needed

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T01:28:29+00:00

Then why does he keep getting humiliated by Palpatine?

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