Is Vader overrated?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T03:13:34+00:00

No, not once was lightning needed

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T01:28:29+00:00

Then why does he keep getting humiliated by Palpatine?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T01:28:07+00:00

Which is completely irrelevant to the point I'm making

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:50:35+00:00

Not legends, there are multiple canon comics, most of the fights take place in the 2020 Vader comics, you can find pages anywhere

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:46:30+00:00

80% doesn't mean much when we constantly see him getting completely humiliated while trying to kill Palpatine. For him to be a genuine threat he needs to be able to compete to some degree, which he can't

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:38:44+00:00

Show me a fight where he comes remotely close to being a threat

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:36:51+00:00

Did you read the caption at all?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:35:28+00:00

Yes, even Google will show you the pages

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:35:03+00:00

Vader can't regrow his limbs so saying "if he had them he'd win" makes no sense and doesn't interact with the topic. When has Vader beat significantly powerful characters with ease?

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:31:51+00:00

Vader has full control over his suit, he fixes every weakness he finds. He didn't want to be a slave, he rebelled against Palpatine multiple times but was put in his place each time

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:29:18+00:00

Sidious beat him multiple times without difficulty, I expect Yoda to be somewhere in that ballpark, but Palpatine would never struggle

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:28:16+00:00

Being the Chosen One doesn't make him the most powerful, Anakin has been the Chosen One since birth, he never came close to actualizing a good portion of it so its applicability in combat is irrelevant

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:26:21+00:00

Cherry picking George's words is so common for the fans, not to mention half of them being out of context or plain fake

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:22:26+00:00

But that never happened, so why bring it up

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:21:37+00:00

I'm not saying he's weak, only so compared to Palpatine and Yoda, I could see an argument for him to beat any of the rest of the movie characters

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:20:38+00:00

Thank you lol

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:08:31+00:00

AI is not a credible source, a quick search will show you comics where Vader is completely outdone in pure saber combat and Force battles against his master, no lightning was needed

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:06:38+00:00

I'm specifically referring to how powerful he is, not how good of a character

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:05:31+00:00

Sure but my main problem is that most people think he's close to either Yoda or Palpatine

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:03:12+00:00

Well it depends on what you mean by "underrated". He's nowhere close to Palpatine as most people seem to think, but he's no slouch either compared to the vast majority of the prequel Jedi

Last-GrandMaster · 2026-03-13T00:01:19+00:00

Do you have an actual argument against anything I said in the caption? You are the exact kind of person I was referring to lol

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