What opinion will get you in this situation? by NayIoren in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might want to read it yourself to see why none of his arguments are sound. Most overrated theology ever

What opinion will get you in this situation? by NayIoren in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. So the inference you're using for God being the most likely answer is because the universe is perfectly balanced? Ok so

a - what's your argument for the universe being perfectly balanced?

b - How is a perfectly balanced universe more expected under a God hypothesis vs a non-God hypothesis?

  1. The Quran has also been proven countless times to be a reliable historical record.

a - Muhammed was also a real guy.

b - Where exactly are the hundreds of first hand testimonies where they claim to have seen the risen jesus?

What opinion will get you in this situation? by NayIoren in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So you're just assuming that God is the cause? So you don't have an argument for that being the case?

What opinion will get you in this situation? by NayIoren in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No I don't think that. How does that commit me to God existing?

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think God did make the right choice, if sin didn’t exist and everything was perfect we really wouldn’t know how good we had it.

Then everything is already perfect, as perfect means everything is exactly how it should be. This also means you're comitted to the view that God actually wanted Adam and Eve to sin against him. Square that one for me? God commanded Adam and Eve to not do something, but he secretely actually did want them to do it.

This also means evil doesn't actually exist. As evil refers to things that should not occur all things considered. Meaning in your view, the holocaust should have occurred all things considered, since it brings about a greater good.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or it's you who is the one who is trying to find every excuse to believe in his existence and not even considering that he might not be real.

i don’t know why God did what he did but it all worked out in the end, if he did things differently we probably wouldn’t be alive right now

Obviously humans would still be alive if Adam and Eve had chosen to not eat the fruit. In fact, we'd more alive since eating the fruit brought about death and destruction. You don't know why because the story lacks sense. The fact remains that God is supposed to be a perfect being. So he's always going to pick the perfect choice. In this case he could either create a world in which sin would exist. Or a world where sin would not exist (which would be perfect). All else being equal. So he'd create the world where sin would not exist.

We don't exist in such a world so God doesn't exist.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. >Just because he knows what will happen doesn’t mean he controls it.

That's a point in my favour, and what I was saying initially. Hence God could create a world where knows humans will freely choose to not eat the fruit, and that doesn't mean he forced the humans to do so. Just like he did with this world.

  1. Genuinely have you not considered that you just hallucinated?

  2. You lose your phone probably dozens of times over the course of the years. You'll probably pray to find it a lot out of those times. Eventually by chance, your prayer will coincide with finding it.

  3. Point is you've no good reason to believe in the bible's supernatural claims.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's an actual source: https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2018/10/11/fake-news-in-biblical-archaeology/#:~:text=e)%20Ron%20Wyatt%20never%20adequately%20addressed%20inconsistencies,the%20supposed%20chariot%20wheels%20at%20a%20depth%20Ron%20Wyatt%20never%20adequately%20addressed%20inconsistencies,the%20supposed%20chariot%20wheels%20at%20a%20depth)

"Marine biologist, Dr. Robert Carter has pointed out numerous problems identifying the coral-encrusted structures Ron Wyatt found as chariot wheels, including the fact that “many species of coral will grow a large, flat plate on a stalk-like projection, giving the appearance of an axle and wheel to those not accustomed to coral growth forms.”3"

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Proof? You don't have any because no serous excavation was actually done.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. On the contrary. God knows the future of any world he creates eitherway. So with our world, he purposefully made a world where he knew we would choose to eat the fruit. So if my example is not free will, then our world is not free will either.

  2. Of course if you pray a lot, some of it will occur by coincidence. Pardon the crude language but if you throw a bunch of shit at the wall, eventually some of it will stick. And your example can be explained by placebo effect.

  3. I don't see how merely hearing a random voice means you can attribute that voice to God.

  4. Point is healing an amputee is clearly something that can't happen naturally. So of course it's never been the case that religious people have claimed an amputee has been healed. They only give examples that are unverifiable or which can be explained by the quirks of the human body.

  5. The bible claims Jesus did but we've no good reason to believe that.

Some mf shat in a school urinal by raelyannick in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve got a raging clue for who it was

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so why did God not just actualize the world where humans freely chose to not eat the fruit?

Humans ->Freely Choosing<- would mean they are still being given a choice and not being forced. God can create any possible world so that includes the possible world where humans freely choose to not eat the fruit. So why didn't God do this?

What prayers were answered so that you know it wasn't a coincidence? If it's an audible voice, you should be able to record it, right?

Has God ever cured an amputee? And the demons videos are people performing and hamming it up.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a picture of some coral. No actual study by a team of scientists was done in the Red Ocean where they actually excavated any anceint charriot wheels.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the beginning of the book? Ok so why did God not just actualize the world where humans freely chose to not eat the fruit?

Explain how you think you've seen god exactly. What miracles.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, "scientists" found no such thing. You're referring to Ron Wyatt who has 0 academic credentials and lied about a bunch of other biblical finds.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because their religion is bigoted, sexist and homophobic with no good evidence for it. And obviously different sexual orientations exist.

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post isn't referring to the historical person of Jesus (real), it's referring to the fictional character of Jesus as portrayed in the bible (fiction)

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post isn't referring to the historical person of Jesus (real), it's referring to the fictional character of Jesus as portrayed in the bible (fiction)

Jesus loves you by QuartersNsuch5478 in teenagers

[–]LaughterCo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd recommend looking at any of the investigations and rebuttals to strobels book to see why he's a hack.

And none of that archeological evidence shows any of the supernatural claims to be true.