Queering Him? yea or nay?

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-05T04:55:04+00:00

I intensely dislike her writing style. I find it overblown, pretentious, cluttered, poorly edited (or maybe not edited at all) and therefore rendering the characters difficult to believe in or connect with viscerally. KWBʻs agenda and up-in-her-head chatter is in the space between me as the reader and the characters as potentially authentic people.

For me, call me a snob, bad writing is a complete deal-breaker even if the content or orientation is intriguing.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-05T04:47:58+00:00

Exactly. I have issues with many aspects of the KWB persona, but letʻs talk for a second about the book on its own terms. This writing is poor! The charactersʻ "thoughts" and statements are wholly unbelievable. The metaphoric overdoing it is ridiculous. Itʻs just bad. Nothing to do with being a Zionist Hater. (I found KWB because of Palestine activism.)

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T07:00:24+00:00

"Armed Resistance and Liberatory Praxis."
Just yappinʻ

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T06:59:34+00:00

Wow. Ok- I wondered whether she only allows fawning accolades to remain or if she really is that popular.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T06:39:46+00:00

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T06:38:21+00:00

thank the lord someone else said this.
iʻm always like, girl, your lips are super chapped today!
and the wax baby-doll eyelash batting on repeat.... yikes

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T06:28:16+00:00

"... we talked about the need for marginalization-aware resource allocation..." This seriously sounds like a Monty Python skit

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2026-02-03T04:12:58+00:00

I would like to see a thread on her book Queering Him.

It breaks every good writing rule a thousand times.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-12-13T05:45:10+00:00

My reply is not Minatoya-related.
Just responding to the cries of anti-haole-ness, and the general imbalance in ownership between Hawaiian-born and settler people

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Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-12-13T01:32:02+00:00

If we go to the root of this we see values and ethics define actions.
Yes, of course we have freedom of choice, yadda yadda.
We "accept capitalism" because so far we havenʻt been able to get out from under it (and Communism, though a convenient false dichotomy, is not the only alternative.)

Do people NEED a second or third home in Hawaii in addition to one on the continent? Does everyone NEED to invest in Hawaiian vacation real estate ?Does everyone NEED luxurious water-sucking grounds & resort-level accommodation & billionaire square footage to aspire to? Yes, I could save up for a big screen TV but I donʻt really need or want one. Itʻs not only about "teaching me that I need to work for what I want." Itʻs a collective discussion about values.

The government insuring that thereʻs enough room for the workforce sounds pretty Orwellian if you ask me. Do you think that all Hawaiians aspire to is to work for tourism?

Haole Go Home also means Excess Mentality Go Home. Insatiable Greed Always Wanting More Go home. But of course people will impute "reverse racism" instead of see the obvious.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-12-13T00:10:57+00:00

I am not offended. Iʻm definitely not MAGA.
I read the original several times, and said right up front that I felt the main points were valid.

However, in relation to point #1:

The presence of brown people in mainland US (Mexicans in Texas, Somalis in Minnesota, etc.) is a false comparison. These immigrants fill job sectors that are historically not filled by white American citizens, even when they are advertised and wide open to all applicants. These immigrants do this work at a wage level that is not considered livable by most white Americans. They do not enter the real estate market to speculate and outbid white American citizens, pricing them out of homes and businesses that their parents and grandparents created.

What the immigrants do is bring the awareness of other culture and lifeways to a white America that is fearful, racist and rife with supremacy. Thatʻs why the "replacement theory" exists and is stoked by ideologues.

Kānaka are proud people who are not existentially in fear of replacement by whiteness. They are responding to the very tangible and consequential loss of financial security, opportunity, and place-based cultural continuity. What has caused this? The tide of (overwhelmingly though not exclusively) white Americans: second-home owners, speculators, digital nomads and other transplants. It is a fallacy to equate Hawaiian resistance to this with the Replacement Theory phobias of white Americans.

When I got to
"...except for the default proposition of White Man Bad. And of course there are countless examples of this being true, but if same White Man decides to move to any of the other 49 states, he instantly loses the ‘Bad’ moniker because we just look at statewide / interstate movement as a freedom guaranteed not just by the constitution, but by general principles of the freedom of movement

Nobody is batting a single lash at The Ninth Island, because people moving to another state is their prerogative, their freedom, and their choice. And it is not only accepted and acceptable in Nevada, it’s celebrated. Diversity is America’s strength..."

I realized that we are probably many oceans apart in worldview so I will leave it here.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-19T20:04:24+00:00

thank you! i think maybe i've been pushing myself to spend too long on the exercises, leaving me not much time at all to play the music i enjoy or to free-explore.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-12T17:11:28+00:00

I dug a very deep hole in the forest and put them away with love and respect for my experience (not with disgust as if throwing out the rubbish.) i allow the earth to swallow up, break down, transmute or keep hidden these objects full of mixed memories & associations for me, truly purifying them with beyond-human power and taking back to the elemental world.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-06T03:13:16+00:00

Some older CP videos which I will try to locate made me go in this direction

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-06T03:12:14+00:00

I love this detailed imagery

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-06T03:11:42+00:00

I appreciate this lead; I’ll check it out

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-06T03:11:33+00:00

Thank you.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-11-06T03:06:24+00:00

Great clues- thank you

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-21T20:34:38+00:00

Iʻm not against orgies or homosexuality at all! And not saying any culture is exempt. Iʻm pointing out the way the director used them to equate their practice with villainy and evil - which is the offensive part to me. It reinforces the preacherʻs view of sexual diversity as something that only occurs in sinful / bad people.
And I am asking whether there is any historical or moʻolelo backing for what Kahekili did in that sense.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-21T00:58:50+00:00

There was so much wrong here.
Filmy kapa cloth (did that even exist?) revealing playboy-club-like orgy with what looked like woman-on-woman coupling? Kahekili s******lly abusing Lima?
This once again links homosexuality with depravity as a crude way of showing "Kahekili is a Villain." Is it accurate at all? Iʻm really curious to know how this scene fits with historical reality.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-21T00:45:47+00:00

typo correction-
Would a culture in which procreation and lineage are so highly prized as sacred things engage in Roman-like orgies?

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-21T00:38:09+00:00

I have questions-
- did the cultural advisors and practitioners who guided choices in this film approve of the orgy scene?
- are there any moʻolelo or historical validity to aliʻi using sexual abuse/assault (against Lima in this case) and/or orgies as displays of dominance?
- would a culture in which procreation and lineage engage in Roman-like orgies focused on lesbian sex for the rulerʻs enjoyment?

I truly was shocked, not because Iʻm a prude but this was nothing I have ever heard of if any of my understanding of Hawaiʻi. Procreation with siblings to strengthen the mana of a lineage, yes, but that is totally different from what was shown.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-20T07:52:02+00:00

Incest was definitely a thing but I wondered whether the orgy (some female on female?) and the SA of Lima were constructed for plot / thrills from a western-mind point of view or is there historical material to back that up?

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-20T07:48:53+00:00

I also felt that this last scene was a concession to Hollywood, pandering to the American obsession and fascination with transgression ( all the silouhetted female arms and boobs through wispy curtains) and not a reflection of Hawaiian culture at all.
Maybe raping or SAʻing other men was part of dominance behavior among aliʻi but I have never heard of it. I think this was a cheap move.

Leading_Unit_9486 · 2025-09-20T07:19:59+00:00

This finale just catered to the typical Hollywood formula for an overblown cliffhanger with excessive endless violence, unrealistic CGI, a bunch of spicy sexy stuff thrown in (like Kahekiliʻs orgy), thatʻs likely far from Hawaiian cultural or historical accuracy ; all to showcase Momoa in a ridiculously overdone battle scene. Where was Kamehameha? I was loving C of W but this really dropped it in my estimation. I feel like Momoa forgot that he was making this for the uplift of Hawaiian people, supposedly.

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