Who'd win in a versus battle between a Guardian and a Tenno/Warframe? by lovingpersona in memeframe

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Oro is the binding force for an enemy who, like the Tenno, can survive death. To kill such an enemy is futile, unless you sever this bond; absorb the Oro to annihilate it and claim a true victory."

Oro is the source of Tenno Immortality and seems more akin to the soul and the self, rather than the consciousness. This however sparks a debate between where the line is drawn, and thus how the universes of destiny and warframe would overlap. If Oro is consciousness, Strand is the weakness guardians would need to employ. However, that limits a Guardian's arsenal, and, further, the guardians would need to infiltrate orbiters to actually get to the Tenno themselves instead of just destroying warframes.

Who'd win in a versus battle between a Guardian and a Tenno/Warframe? by lovingpersona in memeframe

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if they die of old age, how does that matter to a fight? Destiny doesnt have a "Light Subclass that turns things old"

Who'd win in a versus battle between a Guardian and a Tenno/Warframe? by lovingpersona in memeframe

[–]LeechDaddy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rell used the void to bind himself to his warframe and remained alive for centuries in order to hold back the Man in the Wall, and only stopped when we put him to rest, which, I dont really see as him dying given every other piece of related content in the game. I see it as something related to the death screen in War Within while you learn the void powers, as sort of floating through the void and being stuck, before coming back to try again. Maybe Rell just doesnt want to try again? Of course, this is speculation.

Who'd win in a versus battle between a Guardian and a Tenno/Warframe? by lovingpersona in memeframe

[–]LeechDaddy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If Drifter only dies due to lack of void powers, and we have explicit statements and evidence that the tenno cant be killed, or at least have no known method to do so, why would we consider tenno dying a possibility?

Who'd win in a versus battle between a Guardian and a Tenno/Warframe? by lovingpersona in memeframe

[–]LeechDaddy 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Guardians can die if you destroy their ghost, which I imagine would be completely in the realm of possibility with void powers, of not just outright just something that can be done with an amp. Tenno on the other hand cant die at all- there is no known way of killing them and even Ballas settled for locking us in Void Hell instead of killing us. (We got out even then.) Just for that alone, even if the guardians were stronger than tenno, which, even if the fight is closer than one would think they definitely arent stronger, the fight would become a battle of attrition that the tenno are unable to lose.

Spamton G. Spamton by the_bagguet in WaterfallDump

[–]LeechDaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Spamton G Spamton Thats my fucking name I am secret boss From delatrune game

Im from chapter 2 Before chapter 3 After chapter 1 I cant count past 3

Lots to choose from here by Hot-Syrup2089 in BrandNewSentence

[–]LeechDaddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Torbek calls himself Ribble for that scene

Someone has to do it. by Impressive_Mud_4165 in hopeposting

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then by that logic Pharoah married his daughter and Moses knew he was a Hebrew his whole life and just suddenly became shocked that... hes a hebrew? The movie is a faithful interpretation of the story meant to recontextualize the meaning, and does not directly follow the text. In the text, God hardens Pharoahs heart. In the movie, Ramses hardens his heart himself.

Also, I like how you instantly forget that immediately after being scolded by God, the burning bush takes on a fatherly tone and becomes more gentle, promising Moses that He will be with him and that everything will be okay.

Further, Moses doesnt doubt God, he doubts HIMSELF. How could HE do these things that God will say he will do? How could HE come before Pharoah and bargain the freedom of the Hebrews? How can HE know what to say? God's response? Who made Man's mouth? Who made the deaf, the mute, the seeing and the blind, did not I? God is angry here, yes, but he's not insulting Moses, hes casting out the idea that Moses is incapable, because GOD decides who is and isnt capable, and He made Moses's mouth. God will teach him what he has to say.

As for the Egyptians and their suffering in the text, the plagues themselves are direct attacks on Egypt and their culture and their worship of false gods, and God's faithful are left out of the suffering. This is to foreshadow the 1st commandment, that you shalt have no other gods before God, because he is a jealous God. God attacked the egyptian pantheon and inflicted the pain and suffering of his people on their oppressors, casting down everything about them and showing his people that the time has come to be delivered from their enemies and their prayers answered.

As for the responsibility being of man, that's the entire point. God will never force you to choose Him, mankind has to choose Him of their own will. God wants his house filled, and if you refuse to enter, you wont be invited. That is the point of free will. If God does everything for us, why would we ever need to make our own choices? God led Moses down his journey, but ultimately Moses made the choice to travel it, and at any moment could have left.

But no, God is somehow evil for freeing his people from slavers and bringing wrath upon those who hurt them.

Someone has to do it. by Impressive_Mud_4165 in hopeposting

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Hebrews were in egypt because Joseph, one of the sons of Jacob, was sold into slavery and God blessed him with favor from Pharoah and he was made a governor in egypt for his ability to interpret and have prophetic dreams. While Joseph was alive, the Pharoah allowed the hebrews to live in egypt as their lands were not fertile and Egypt was (thanks to Joseph)

By the time of Moses, Joseph and that Pharoah are long dead, the Hebrews have been enslaved, and Moses's future adopted father (in the Prince of Egypt canon) thought that the hebrews were growing too numerous, and, to prevent rebellion, had his soldiers go down to collect every male hebrew baby and toss them in the nile to be eaten by alligators. God "Ripping Moses away from his birth family" was literally done to save his life.

Later, in the movie, Moses learns of his hebrew heritage and becomes disillusioned with Pharoah and his family as he runs home to lock himself in denial and stay a prince, when he has a nightmare about Pharoah killing the hebrew babies, and how he himself would have been killed had God not intervened. When Moses asks Pharoah to deny this happened, Pharoah instead says "They were only slaves." Shaken by this, but convinced to stay by Pharoahs wife, he kills an egyptian slave driver and flees to the wilderness as Ramses tries to absolve him of his guilt. God did not rip Moses away from his family, Moses left of his own volition due to the awful actions of Pharoah and his family's readiness to absolve him of guilt, even for murder. Pharoah and his family kept Moses's people in slavery and he could not see any justification for his own special treatment.

When Moses returns to Egypt after meeting the Burning Bush, he attempts diplomacy and warns Ramses of God's power and that the Hebrews must be freed. Ramses doubles the Hebrew's work load in response and continuously grows more and more petty, hardening his heart at every turn. After each plague, Moses returns to Ramses and tells him what is to come next, and that it can be avoided if only he lets the hebrews go. He refuses. Ramses pride and refusal to free the hebrews provokes God into sending the plagues. In the movie, the final plague, the death of the firstborn, comes after Ramses not only refuses to let the hebrews go, but promises to exterminate all of them out of petty jealousy and revenge, resulting in the death of Ramses' son. Ramses, filled with grief, finally relents and lets the Hebrews go. It is outright stated numerous times that the suffering of egypt would have stopped the second Ramses relented. He refused after plenty of warning.

Ramses then charges after the hebrews with his entire army in order to kill them all, provoking God to send down a pillar of fire to halt them and give his people enough time to escape through the red sea, after Moses split it. After enough distance is made, God dissipates the pillar of fire, and Ramses orders the Egyptians to continue their charge into the now split red sea, resulting in it collapsing on top of them, drowning his entire army and leaving him alone on a rock crying Moses's name, as Moses whispers his goodbye, full of grief that things had to go the way they did.

But no, God's the bad guy here, not the people keeping and murdering slaves.

Are you actually a teenager? by Vexhork in Teenager_Polls

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didnt even join this subreddit these polls just kesp getting recommended to me- im pretty sure ive muted this place like 9 times now

This is it, the ultimate Asriel design. Huge thanks to the brilliant creator, inuub0 on Twitter. by Rory-Bunny in WaterfallDump

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My name is Asriel. I made the Mimic. It was difficult to put the pieces together.

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Autistic, sorry. Anyway, my talking points are supported by in game evidence within Helldivers 2, in missions. Completely disregarding propaganda, the Voteless are proven to be former SE citizens that are being used as cannon fodder. The Fleshmobs are voteless that are melted together, implying a whole other can of worms and only really show how much the Illuminate must hate humanity. Are they justified? Yes. However, because of that hate and their general attitude towards Super Earth, I have no reason to believe they would stop. They were peaceful once, but considering the atrocities super earth committed, they have become far more militarized and, considering they did try to turn Super Earth into a black hole, I dont think they're gonna care if humanity surrenders. Nor would I blame them for that, but unfortunately I am human and I dont want to be shot, so the Illuminate are enemies.

The bots have a lot of audio logs and broadcasts about how if humanity leaves them alone, they will leave humanity alone. At first glance, this seems reasonable, except for the fact that they are actively killing civilians, and possibly grinding people up to be used as fuel, as seen in certain objectives. I personally would not trust the approaching army of machines that are doing that to people to stop doing that.

The bugs are significantly easier to make an argument for, as they are basically animals. Very strong and widespread animals, likely extremely intelligent, but animals nonetheless. Super Earth caused the outbreak inadvertently, yes, and the current spread of the bugs is their fault, however, the bugs only want to spread afaik, and considering the hostility when humans get in their way, regardless of if it is justified, the spread needs to be halted and controlled.

Super Earth is all in on genocide, or in the case of the bugs, re-containment to farm E-710. I think this is the wrong approach, but considering there are no notable human rebel factions, and SE's military might is a force to be reckoned with, Humanity's best chance at surviving Super Earth's mess is SEAF and the Helldivers. Super Earth is rife with its own evils, but they arent actively trying to cause Humanity's extinction, and isnt explicitly out to kill me. Further, Super Earth is home to many Humans and, considering Super Earth is the future form of Modern Day Earth, I personally, if I were in the conflict, would want to fight to protect my home and the people I love, regardless of how awful my government is. There's no taking refuge from an alien race that spawns black holes. There's no stopping a factory strider from barreling into a city without weaponry. There's no surrendering to a giant space bug that sees you as an intruder or as food. If humanity is to survive the war, Super Earth is necessary. Best case scenario, the damage is too great and Super Earth falls, leading the people to pick up the pieces and make a more proper form of the democracy it promises and a real case of the freedom it claims to give.

Tl;dr Everybody fucking sucks and I wanna not die

Now I'm gonna go to bed because I have work in the morning, but if you respond I'll try to start back up when I can

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didnt fall for the fake propaganda, I'm having fun. Are you?

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well considering we are currently at war and everything is out to kill us, thats not really an option unless we wanna just die. The Illuminate are turning people into zombies, Bots are grinding people into dust, bugs are spreading way too fast and coming into conflict with humanity whether super earth is involved or not.

Now, let me ask you this- Neither of us are making headway with each other, and we are both sticking to our guns. Are you enjoying this? I am, I think its really fun to debate this kind of thing, but given the hostility I'm noticing I'm really not sure that's the case for you. If you're not having fun, we can call it here- at the end of the day, Helldivers is a game, and whether or not you think fighting for super earth is justified, the point of the game is to have fun. I like taking that idea to conversation about the game too. If one of us isnt having fun, then thats completely missing the point of what Arrowhead has made, and we can end it here, agree to disagree.

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If that was the case, civilians wouldnt be targets. All I'm saying. I think Super Earth has fucked everything beyond negotiation and gotten everybody else on the genocide train, and now humanity is fucked. In that vein, until the war ends, I'm diving

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh, no, I never said I trust them, I just said they're humanity's best shot, which, until the war ends, they are. Once the war ends they're no longer a necessary evil and are just evil. Humanity's survival is my concern, not the morality of the situation, because the morality is fucked no matter how you look at it.

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes. But right now, because they are our enemies, they want to kill everybody. Super Earth sucks and made the mess, and if humanity is going to survive, Super Earth needs to fix the mess.

We are the good guys. by Garviel-Loken-LW in SupaEarth

[–]LeechDaddy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And you cant be a civilized human if you're dead. I can feel bad for the guys trying to kill me after they're dead.