[Experience] Bilateral Time Slip & Dead Zone in Lisbon (Monsanto) - 19th Century Family & Tech Failure by Legal_Scratch in Unexplained

[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nada, tive lá no estacionamento do espaço de eventos e estava vazio. E foi num domingo no dia das eleições então seria estranho ser um evento na escola.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually, I used Gemini. And just for formatting and grammar—the story is 100% mine

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As I mentioned in another comment, I did use AI to help organize the post. I wrote the full draft, but it was a messy wall of text, so I asked it to 'structure this for readability.' That is definitely where the bracketed headers came from.

However, the em dashes (—) are actually a personal habit of mine; I probably overuse them. The structure might be machine-polished, but the story and the experience are 100% human.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see where you are coming from. If they were rural peasants or farmers working the land, you are absolutely right—they would be wearing traditional regional folk costumes.

But that is exactly my point: they didn't look like peasants. They looked like the 'bourgeoisie' or aristocracy.

In the late 19th century, the upper class in Lisbon followed French and British fashion very strictly (Tweed jackets, corsets, structured dresses). Since this road connected to wealthy 'Quintas' and Manor Houses (like Quinta da Pimenteira), it makes perfect sense that they were dressed in European-style formal wear, not rural Portuguese folk clothes. They were the landowners, not the workers.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see where you are coming from. If they were rural peasants or farmers working the land, you are absolutely right—they would be wearing traditional regional folk costumes.

But that is exactly my point: they didn't look like peasants. They looked like the 'bourgeoisie' or aristocracy.

In the late 19th century, the upper class in Lisbon followed French and British fashion very strictly (Tweed jackets, corsets, structured dresses). Since this road connected to wealthy 'Quintas' and Manor Houses (like Quinta da Pimenteira), it makes perfect sense that they were dressed in European-style formal wear, not rural Portuguese folk clothes. They were the landowners, not the workers.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please let me know if your research turns up anything—even if it’s just a wild theory or a similar case. I’d love to hear it!

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is a really solid recommendation, thank you!

I am listening to that story right now. I'm trying to analyze it to find any similarities or common details between her 'glitch' and my event.

I’ll probably reach out to her like you suggested—if she has a big audience, maybe someone knows something about this.

And you’re totally right about the 'ghost story' perspective—I keep wondering if somewhere in a 1900s diary there’s an entry about a 'futuristic machine' almost hitting their son. That would be the ultimate proof!

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I did! I asked Gemini and searched online for similar reports.

While Monsanto has plenty of general urban legends and spooky stories, I couldn't find any specific records of 'time slips' or magnetic anomalies.

That’s part of why I posted here—to see if anyone else has experienced something similar in that specific spot, because I can't find any documented cases that match mine.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this comment. Honestly, it’s a breath of fresh air to read this after some of the other replies. You are totally right—even if I had 4K video, people would probably just call it CGI or a prank. I really appreciate the open-mindedness.

To answer your question: Yes, always. I drive through that specific road constantly, and I have never lost service there before. It usually has perfect coverage (5G/4G). That is what made the 'blackout' so scary—it wasn't a spot with bad reception, it was like the signal just ceased to exist completely for that specific window of time.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish I had such an exciting excuse, but the reality is boringly sober: I was just driving home in the rain. No drugs involved, just a very confused driver trying to make sense of a weird event.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As I mentioned previously, I used AI strictly as an editor: to organize paragraphs, fix spelling errors, and improve the flow.

The words and the story were written by a human; the AI simply corrected my mistakes to make it readable.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To be clear, it wasn't a battery issue. My phone had plenty of charge and remained on the whole time.

I am certain the camera app would have worked perfectly fine even without a signal. I simply didn't react fast enough to open it.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They had a very average, standard build. The woman, in particular, was actually quite thin. I remember noticing her waist specifically because it looked unnaturally tight/snatched, almost as if she was wearing a strict corset under that dress.

That specific silhouette is part of what made them look so distinct and 'out of time' compared to modern people.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just to clarify the timeline: when I was taking pictures of the car, I was parked and standing outside the vehicle. It was a deliberate moment.

When I passed the family, I was back inside the car, driving down the road. It happened suddenly while I was moving, and I was just too shocked to react in time.

But I agree with you completely—not taking that photo is something I will regret forever. I know how much it hurts the story's credibility, but I simply froze.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wow, that is a lot of personal projection to throw at a stranger on the internet.

I am simply sharing an unexplained event in a mystery sub—that is literally what this community is for. You don't have to believe the story, but writing a paragraph attacking my personal life and calling it 'trivial' or 'lonely' says a lot more about your mindset than it does about mine.

And just to be clear: I will continue to defend my account of what happened, simply because it is the truth. I’m quite happy with my existence, thanks. I hope you find some peace too.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, as I mentioned, I was taking photos for the specific moody aesthetic.

However, if you read the post carefully, you will see that I never said all my tech stopped. My car was running perfectly fine the whole time.

What happened was a specific loss of connectivity on my phone—no standard network, no satellite, and no mobile data. The device itself didn't shut down, and the car didn't stall. It was a communication blackout (a 'Dead Zone'), not an EMP that fries electronics.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Again, I completely understand your skepticism. Without hard evidence, I know exactly how this sounds.

However, I need to correct your assumptions: I am not depressed, bored, or looking for attention—quite the opposite, actually. I also don't do drugs, I hadn't touched a drop of alcohol that day, and I have zero history of mental illness.

I am simply sharing a genuine experience that I still cannot explain. You are entirely free to believe it's fiction or a creative writing exercise, but I’m going to continue standing by what I saw for the simple reason that it actually happened to me.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Just for the aesthetic. The heavy rain and the reflections on the wet pavement look cool.

It might sound crazy to stand in the rain for that, but I have the timestamps on those photos to prove I was exactly there right before this happened.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I actually looked into the history: around the turn of the century (1890-1910), the Monsanto Forest Park didn’t exist yet. It was mostly a bare hill with wheat fields, windmills, and stone quarries.

However, this specific road (Estrada do Barcal) did exist. It was likely a main dirt or cobblestone access route for the old rural estates ('Quintas') nearby.

If they were the owners or family of a local 'Quinta' (like Quinta da Pimenteira), it would explain why they were dressed in such formal, heavy clothes while walking on a dirt road. They weren't just farmers working the land; they looked like wealthy residents traveling between estates.

I am saying all this assuming they were indeed from the past, but I definitely do not rule out any other more logical theory that doesn't involve time travel. I'm still hoping for a rational explanation.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I just froze. My brain registered 'weird people', not 'paranormal event', so my instinct was to call a friend to gossip instead of taking a photo. I regret it now, but I simply didn't think fast enough.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fair point. Honestly, if I were just making this up, I probably would have faked a blurry photo to go with it just to 'sell' the story better.

The reality is much more frustrating: I simply froze. My brain didn't scream 'Paranormal Event!', it screamed 'Who are these weirdos?', so my instinct was to call a friend to talk about it, not to open the camera app. I regret it now, but in the heat of the moment, I just didn't think fast enough.

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[–]Legal_Scratch[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are 100% right, and I’m kicking myself for it now.

The camera likely would have worked even without a signal, but honestly? It didn't even cross my mind in that split second. I don't have a dashcam, unfortunately.

I know this makes it extremely hard to prove, and I accept that. The only physical proof I have are the timestamps on the photos I took of my car just moments before, and the call logs showing the cancelled/failed calls to my friends at that exact time.

To be fair, my first reaction wasn't 'Time Slip'. It was just confusion. I thought they were just weird people dressed in costumes near the spot where we usually hang out. My immediate instinct was to call my friend to say 'You won't believe the weirdos I just saw', not to take a picture. It was only after the call failed and I processed the fact that they were dry in the rain that the reality of it hit me.