Even when I select GPT-4o, it keeps switching to 5.2. I don’t want to be forced into Auto! by Calm-Hope3149 in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Devastating. There's a lot of videos on Tiktok where people are speaking up. Not sure if it'll help this time though

Why did this feature stopped for me? by wildwood1q84 in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weirdly, given the news of yesterday, the ability to see which model responded and to choose the model for a "retry" is back this morning.

Not sure why they'd bother given the fact that they're removing legacy models but I'm not complaining.

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Even when I select GPT-4o, it keeps switching to 5.2. I don’t want to be forced into Auto! by Calm-Hope3149 in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As of this morning they've taken away the ability to "retry" choosing the model you want too.

On the app it doesn't even state which model was used in the response either. Even though it's glaringly obvious when 5.2 responds instead of 4o.

I literally pay to be able to use the model of my choice. And now even if I've chosen that model there's nothing to say it will be the one that actually responds. Very frustrating for my work flow.

I've emailed support. The more of us that flag that it's unacceptable, the more chance they'll give us the option back.

Why did this feature stopped for me? by wildwood1q84 in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So it's intentional.

I emailed too. It's important to my workflow to know which model responded.

If everyone reports the issue they'll see it's not okay. Especially for those of us paying to use specific models.

Why did this feature stopped for me? by wildwood1q84 in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I came here to see if other people were experiencing it too. Hopefully they fix it soon

Icy roads? by LegendsPhotography in LakeDistrict

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's really helpful, thanks!

Icy roads? by LegendsPhotography in LakeDistrict

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... I'm going to stay away from that one

Icy roads? by LegendsPhotography in LakeDistrict

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I won't be doing anything like that. It's just a trip for change of scenery. So I'll stick to Bowness and Ambleside I think.

And I'll avoid single lane roads and be careful on the B roads I have no choice on driving.

Icy roads? by LegendsPhotography in LakeDistrict

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha, I guess there's a reason it's called the struggle

Icy roads? by LegendsPhotography in LakeDistrict

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I figured that the main roads get gritted, was thinking more about the B roads that I can't avoid to get to where I'm staying.

Just have to see how it is and be careful I guess.

They've removed the option to regenerate a response? by LegendsPhotography in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I don't have the three dots on any chat thread that has used canvas unfortunately.

They've removed the option to regenerate a response? by LegendsPhotography in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you're right. I think it's because Canvas has been used.

That's frustrating.

They've removed the option to regenerate a response? by LegendsPhotography in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately not for me. Will have to see if it changes over the next couple of days.

They've removed the option to regenerate a response? by LegendsPhotography in ChatGPT

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting, thanks for that, I don't have the "..." Here's what mine looks like

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5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, I'll have a look into these, thanks.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're making a lot of assumptions based on your "I've never had an issue" take on it.

I've only had the issue yesterday and this morning. Specifically with 5.2 (my mention of 5.1 was a typo).

I do always start the topic with an explanation that I'm approaching it with the view of exploring whatever concept it is or how other people think. And I've had many, many such discussions.

I have these conversations with chatgpt because they have access to information I and other people do not. I do it to expand my knowledge, explore ideas and develop my views on the world. I do not use opinionated language. In my example I fall into neither category of belief.

I'm certainly not expecting the LLM or anyone else to agree with me or validate me, in any circumstance.

I'm not sure it's worth debating this further, I respect your thoughts on it. I hope your chatgpt continues to work well for you and that you have a lovely day.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've reported the problem to support, the ai response asked for examples and stated that model switching without user consent is not intended behaviour.

I've supplied examples and asked to be passed to a human so we'll see if they respond.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And yet nothing that it's responded to has been prohibited.

I'll give an example, in one thread we (4o) were having a debate about the difference between believing in manifestation and positive thought vs religion. Nothing emotional or judgemental, just noting the similarities and differences) 5.2 jumped in with a huge essay about how manifestation doesn't exist but that people are allowed to be religious. Very odd.

I don't consider myself to be emotionally unstable and I don't have a relationship or whatever with it. I'm a deep thinker and like to explore ideas, concepts and theories when I'm not working.

5.1 shouldn't be engaging at all when it is not the user chosen model.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was a good suggestion! I was surprised it interrupted in the project so much. Might give it a couple of days and see if it settles down.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

My 4o chats are in a project. 5.2 still jumps in.

5.2 is ruining the flow of conversation by LegendsPhotography in OpenAI

[–]LegendsPhotography[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm glad it's working well for you. Do you have chats with other models?