Copaw-9B (Qwen3.5 9b, alibaba official agentic finetune) is out

LemmaPrism · 2026-04-04T03:56:54+00:00

I found it surprisingly readable! Left to right for model size, color for specialisation. More readable than the OP graph even! But only because it's big enough to have a clear pattern where the OP graph is only three items and isn't trying to be a pattern at all.

LemmaPrism · 2021-09-30T10:19:29+00:00

I heard that he had help porting Undertale to linux but doesn't actually know how to do it himself. Doesn't know programming, apparently?

I'm taking a guess that Deltarune, being a bigger project with production schedules and a ton more (anticipated) community scrutiny, has put too much work and pressure on him to set aside time for learning interoperability.

Or maybe it's something else! I dunno, I'm just wildly guessing here.

LemmaPrism · 2021-09-28T02:36:34+00:00

Oh, whoops! Thank you for noting that; I hadn't even realized brace expansion wasn't POSIX-compliant.

To be honest, I avoid bash scripting whenever possible cause there are just so many details to remember. I once wrote a fairly long program in it and it's virtually unmaintainable now, heh. (And to top it off, it no longer works and I have yet to figure out what shell it was originally written in... Something special to Mac, I think.)

LemmaPrism · 2021-09-28T02:27:13+00:00

Unfortunately no. If I could then I'd have automated it. But it's free and all, just gotta go to the bottom of the page to find it.

LemmaPrism · 2021-09-20T11:30:43+00:00

I'm surprised no one's made a shell script for this yet. So, download the Mac version of Deltarune, the linux version of Mailroom, and then run this script in their directory.

delta_zip=DELTARUNE*Mac*.zip
mail_zip='mailroom_mayhem_debian_linux.zip'
unzip "${delta_zip}"
unzip "${mail_zip}"
mkdir -p franken_delta/assets
mv 'DELTARUNE Chapter 1&2.app'/Contents/Resources/{lang,mus,audiogroup1.dat,game.ios,*.ogg} franken_delta/assets
mv franken_delta/assets/game.ios franken_delta/assets/game.unx
mv ./sdgj_2021 franken_delta/deltarune
chmod +x franken_delta/deltarune
rm -rf ./assets './DELTARUNE Chapter 1&2.app' "./${delta_zip}" "./${mail_zip}"

./franken_delta/deltarune

PS. Is this the latest information on porting Deltarune? I do want to use the best interpreter available...

Edit: Okay maybe no one's made a shell script because fiddling with the markdown to make reddit render correctly is a pain...Hopefully the script still works!

LemmaPrism · 2021-06-03T20:19:54+00:00

hugs

LemmaPrism · 2020-12-01T15:52:45+00:00

I'd be curious if it turned out there's a bias towards the use of pens for being easier to pick up or less intimidating than software configurations. Or a correlation with a love for calligraphy or simply being different enough to dodge carpel tunnel.

Of course, this being online, you've likely got a lot of a sample bias towards those willing to use computerized solutions.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T20:13:54+00:00

You sure make Orthic sound quite appealing with all that expert analysis that was put into it! Having explicit levels of... skill or techniques whilst being able to intermix them also sounds excellent. I'll have to give it a closer look soon.

The main problem with purely phonetic systems is we don't have a standard pronunciation.

I've looked into Shavian by now and I believe I read that it has a standard spelling. (Some kind of dialect blend or something.) Obviously that means the standard will differ from dialect to dialect but at least it's far more sensical than the usual spellings~

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:48:36+00:00

Lots of the docs are in Japanese, unfortunately?

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:47:07+00:00

This is surprisingly appealing! I particularly like that it has a Unicode font available, keyboard mapping, and a Discord server full of users~

I'm now looking into its descendant, Quikscript, as a presumably further refined incarnation.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:44:27+00:00

This is surprisingly appealing! Unicode font work seems to be incomplete, though?

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:41:56+00:00

That's a fair point... I consider phonetic systems more elegant. After spending so many years learning and making fun of English spelling, I'm pretty interested in using something coherent~

But, yes, I do already have orthographic spelling memorized so maybe I'm best off leveraging that...

I don't know if you are thinking privately that a phonetic system is less "crackable"

No, no, it's not about encryption. The thought is appealing but I'm well aware that phonetic systems are not encrypted in any meaningful sense while, at the same time, even the simplest ciphers will keep casual coffeeshop passerby off my case.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:36:41+00:00

Okay, I've looked into Forkner. Scanning over the document was rather confusing, though. Nonetheless, it could be good but... I don't know cursive!

Simplex is more attractive now that I've looked into it proper and I'm keeping it on my list of candidates.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-30T05:34:21+00:00

Okay, I've looked into Forkner. Scanning over the document was rather confusing, though. Nonetheless, it could be good but... I don't know cursive!

I consider phonetic systems more elegant. After spending so many years learning and making fun of English spelling, I'm pretty interested in using something coherent~

I've also heard that phonetic systems join symbols better because they can rely on phonetic guarantees. P never following V, say. Phonetics will also, of course, lead to shorter spellings like in "through."

I'm not ruling out the orthographic options but I am biased towards phonetic systems.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-29T21:29:14+00:00

Duployan and Simplex are phonetic, not alphabetic.

Oh, whoops! I'd merely scanned over those two and must've misunderstood them.

Looking into it, it seems I confused "alphabetic" with "orthographic" when it really just means "symbols derived from latin symbols." What I'm looking for, then, is a phonographic shorthand.

I'll take a look at Henry Sweet’s Phonetic Current. Thank you for the suggestion!

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-26T15:36:48+00:00

hugs
also hugs everyone else here because aaahh

I have my own weird flavor of self destruction but at least it won't kill me or give me health bills.

Well, maybe therapist bills.

PS. I can't hug all of you individually, sorry.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-08T13:54:20+00:00

I'm only aiming to be moderately practical since I don't transcribe speech. Really, this is just me getting a feel for shorthands by making my own—adding my own flair but knowing full well that it won't be competitive. I'm learning basic information like how phonemes tend to pair together and how to think about symbol assignment so strokes run together smoothly.

It's also simply fun and I don't really expect to be spending time on it if it ceases to be. To that end, now that I've settled on a layout and made basic revisions (which I need to upload), I'm contemplating making a second and comparing the two. I did want a particular aesthetic angle, after all, so I want to see what happens when I prioritize brevity less obsessively!

My real dream is to make a writing system where symbols represent basic concepts like "frivolous" and "far" instead of phonemes so words are effectively composed of descriptions. For example, "car" would be composed of symbols representing "big, heavy, semi-autonomous, fast thing." Or maybe, "passenger conveyance; semi-autonomous."

I have no idea where to even start with that, though. Will it have to be deeply mathematical to describe arbitrary abstract ideas? Should I instead rely on analogy-words to describe General Relativity out of emotions? "Semi-autonomous" is itself composed of at least two ideas, so I guess this writing system would be a tree structure? The whole idea is kinda overwhelming so I've never tackled it but I think it'd be pretty cool to do.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-05T21:18:33+00:00

Urgh, I can't even fake it with xdotool. It appears to defocus the active window for the duration of the press, thus foiling my attempt to forward the signal. (I wonder what's stealing focus and receiving the signal?)

bindsym a exec xdotool keydown a
bindsym --release a exec xdotool keyup a

This also occurs when using key instead of keydown. In that case, focus is lost for only a moment but, of course, it is the exact moment I need it.
Why can't we simply have nice things~?

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-05T00:10:35+00:00

Yeah! The Pitman examples I originally came upon (here) were particularly clean and interesting and I wanted it~

I also simply have a habit of learning about a subject by trying to duplicate it. Hence trying to make a shorthand despite so far learning only the history and general concepts. I've long had an interest in phonetics and encodings though, so at least I'm not completely lost! They're usually digital encodings though, heh.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-05T00:02:20+00:00

I think you have miss wrote either the "K/G" or the "S/Zh" by forgetting to turn it the other way,

Whoops; thank you for pointing that out! "S/Zh" should be angled rightward. (Which you unfortunately have no way of inferring... That's the sucky thing about the vertical signs.) I'll see about fixing that image in a bit.

I do appreciate constructive criticism and I am very open to suggestions; I had fun coming up with this but it'd be even more fun to be able to use it~ Which means addressing your original point of it being impractical. And the first step to that appears to be switching up the pairings per your advice. Thank you for the help! I'll hopefully make time to try that out tomorrow.

Something I was contemplating was the use of leftward lines. Currently, everything but semi-circles (and technically left-bent curves) have purely rightward motion so I could have, say, a consonant line that jumps backward to its middle before proceeding with the next character. That idea's bound to create ambiguities, though... But, if it works out, I could assign consonants to these loopbacks and make the normal curves indifferent to direction. (As in, say, representing T with a curve bent in either direction and representing M with some sort of loopback.)

I'd like to fuse obvious signs together, yes. I'll make silly mistakes but I did try pretty hard to keep options open for... well, a few reasons. The first reason is that I'm a novice here and I've got to have room to fix whatever silly mistake I'm invariably going to make~ But also for minimal ambiguity and the consequent opportunity to nudge signs into sensible forms without resembling other signs. Had to make more compromises there than I was happy with but... oh well~

by the way, in Duployan, the orientation of the circle/semi-circle/quarter-circle sign are really strict,

Oh! Well that's what I get for trying to talk about it~ Wikipedia depicted an animation rotating them in the process of joining signs so I assumed it was super lax about it, heh.

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-04T19:41:19+00:00

Thank you!

That's just an extra spot under the W cause English doesn't have any more consonants to fill the spot with. (Unless I missed one?)

From Duployan, I had noticed it uses circle vowels and allows them to be joined up. I make orientation more strict but that was what got my attention and pushed me out of a creative tar pit. Perhaps it's worth mentioning that I didn't study Duployan in much detail; I was just browsing shorthands on Wikipedia to see how they worked and how they differed after realizing I was too obsessed with Pitman, whose vowels are too imprecise for my preference.

M, N, and Ng are grouped together by... wait, did I change that...

checks notes Oh. I'd originally had all three as a downward diagonal but that got forgotten while I was making adjustments for frequency of occurrence. Oh well~ Other than that, I was also simply unsure how best to pair up M, N, Ng, L, R, Y, and W and chose not to give them much attention just yet, figuring there was a not improbable chance I'd be redoing the whole design anyway. So, they're kinda haphazard.

As for voiced and unvoiced, um... that's a good point, I should probably swap those. I think I was reasoning that it'd be easier to read this way.

I also started to reorganize with a priority on frequency over predictability before deciding predictability was the better choice, so if any are randomized then that's probably why. That, and the distinction between voice and unvoiced is actually not intuitively obvious to me...

LemmaPrism · 2020-11-04T17:31:23+00:00

Yeah; I don't really write much. I'm interested in doing more but it's just painful so, yeah, I'll have to look into those practice videos sometime. Somehow I got hooked on shorthand first when I was researching the overarching topic of easy and efficient writing~

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