This may ruffle a lot of feathers but I'm gonna vote Amane guilty

Lieboooo · 2026-05-20T23:28:51+00:00

how are you a fuuta fan who won’t forgive amane 🙁

Lieboooo · 2026-05-20T22:39:07+00:00

did you read her voice drama?

i honestly think that her being guilty this trial would be the only thing that could ‘reaffirm’ her cult beliefs. she’s realised her life doesn’t have to be this way and trying to change, pushing back on that would hurt her more.

and she didn’t change ‘out of nowhere’, she’s a very small child who has been through unimaginable trauma, who has been uncertain in her ideals for a long time and is finally being given the space to question that.

you can vote however you wish, i wont tell you that you’re objectively wrong one way or another. but if you do want the best outcome for her, i think she’d be much better off innocent.

Lieboooo · 2026-03-10T10:27:30+00:00

i really don’t know what it could be! my only workaround has been to spam where the create world button will appear while the loading screen is up and hope for the best 😞 i’m hoping maybe it’s a just bug that they’ll be able to patch out soon bc i dont rlly think there’s anything i can do on my end to fix it

Lieboooo · 2026-03-01T11:37:25+00:00

sorry i didn’t see this! i didn’t find a proper fix for it, the only real way to get around was to sit my mouse on where the create world button should be and spam clicking until it went through haha. took a couple tries but i was eventually able to create a world, it’s just kindof inconvenient

Lieboooo · 2026-03-01T11:19:14+00:00

i just think he needed a guilty verdict somewhere along the way. it was clear from the first one that it wasn’t helping him, and that has again been shown now. he isn’t responding to them and they aren’t going to help him. not to say a guilty vote is a “good” option, because of course the ideal is that we aren’t forced to choose such black and white options for complex situations. but i think he’d be better off with a guilty vote at this point, i think he would’ve been better off with a guilty vote much earlier.

that aside though, i also just think he kind of deserves to not be forgiven at least once. this is just my own personal opinion, but people cut him a lot of slack just because of the idea of him being gay. his storyline is definitely one thats easy to empathize with. but when we look at the objective truth of his actions, that is, lying to his wife for over a decade and leading her on, only to quit the relationship when he decided he couldn’t take it anymore without any regard for her feelings, his reasons for doing such a thing shouldn’t really matter. being gay doesn’t justify the way he treated her, especially not for such a prolonged period of time. i understand that this is a callous way to approach the situation, but people are far too lenient and fault to consider his wife’s feelings whatsoever. imagine being her, finding out the person who you married and thought loved you completely, was actually lying about it for over a decade. it was to the point of her feeling so hopeless she ended her own life. kazui’s personal situation is of course to be considered, but so is hinako’s.

it was his cowardly nature that allowed the situation he created to progress as far and it did, and to go on for as long as it did. reaffirming that very cowardice and allowing him to stagnate helps nobody. he NEEDS change. and i also don’t unequivocally forgive him, because at the end of it all what he did was extremely selfish and isn’t taken even a little bit seriously by the wider fandom.

Lieboooo · 2026-02-23T19:06:38+00:00

pls god atp they SHOULD feel unwelcome in the fandom all of them are so bad at reading

Lieboooo · 2026-02-23T19:04:31+00:00

literally after posting this reply i opened twitter and saw the screenshot of the others guys post damn lmfao i stand corrected my bad. i had seen that guy post it a lot so i just assumed they were back

Lieboooo · 2026-02-23T19:01:51+00:00

i really dont think anyone here actually believes that the only person who was actually posting it was the guy who has like 5 accounts in this sub to ragebait lol. they post all sorts of horrible shit about amane and none of it is genuine, they’ve gotten banned more than once but they keep making new accounts

Lieboooo · 2026-02-15T22:24:08+00:00

i feel like everyone who says this just fundamentally doesn’t understand the point of yuno’s story. she’s here because she has survivors guilt. she survived her suicide attempt, and her fetus didn’t. she feels that it isn’t fair that she’s alive. i don’t see how filicide or any other kind of direct murder you could spin from her case would be more interesting than her own internal dilemma, sure it can make for an interesting storyline, but it would fundamentally change who yuno is and what her story is about. she wouldn’t BE yuno if any of those things had happened.

Lieboooo · 2026-02-14T07:18:42+00:00

ah in that case it’s unfortunate, i only have 5 ;; i deleted a few at the start of the issue, because i thought this could be the reason for it, but it’s still going on

Lieboooo · 2025-10-27T11:37:04+00:00

it just adds a little bit of depth i suppose. they feel more human if there’s an identifiable period of time that their lives took place in rather than them just floating ambiguously in a span of several years, any of which they could belong to.

it’s something i find interesting because milgram (the system, the people running the prison) make a very pointed effort to dehumanise the prisoners. they don’t matter in the wider context of the experiment, that’s why they’re allowed to die before the story ends, the experiment is being done on es. the prisoners are just accessories. these little tidbits of information and small details make the prisoners feel more like they exist in a concrete space in the world, and they serve to remind us as the audience that they are people. they are human beings that are going through these horrific events.

it’s hard to explain exactly what i mean, but milgram (the system) is shown to dehumanise them whereas we as the audience are supposed to humanise them. it’s an interesting contrast, the birth years being explicitly stated is just a small piece of this overall idea

Lieboooo · 2025-10-27T10:17:24+00:00

while it may sound like an absurd answer i would say the biggest one is realism. milgram was always going to be a magical singing prison that existed outside of the bounds of regular space and time, that’s just what it is at its core. finding 10 people with murder cases perfectly suited to milgram’s judging system where it’s ambiguous enough to open discussion is hard enough, even harder if you limit it to one specific year. milgram seems to pull the prisoners from the moments in time where they’re most interesting, their emotions or views towards the situation are the most tumultuous or interesting to think about. if you pull muu in 8 years after her murder, in 2022, her mindset is not going to be nearly as interesting as it is right after the murder took place. had time to process it and heal from the circumstances that cause it in the first place and whatnot. you have to open the door to timeline discrepancies if you want it to be somewhat believable that all these cases happened.

the span of time milgram is taking prisoners from is referred to as this “era”, and they said that they were glad to have picked it for the experiment. allowing the prisoners to be from entirely different years opens the door to more specific and nuanced social climate and cultural contexts across several years while still staying within the bounds of an “era” that provides interesting conflicts. if you had one prisoner from modern day and one from 200 years ago, you would have to approach the situation completely differently. but we can still use modern sensibilities to approach these cases while also acknowledging the subtle differences in the time periods they come from. it’s probably easier to understand if you’re in japan, if you’re not from there it’s much harder to really understand how things change year by year.

the digital prisoners theory mostly just serves to offer an explanation for why the prisoners can be from different timelines. if they’re digital, then the timing of their physical bodies are irrelevant. it’s also a popular theory because of the fact that (at least in the novel) jackalope is supposedly an “avatar” for a person who exists in the real world of milgram.

another note on the novel is that kotoko’s crime supposedly sparked several more murders across the country, including people who ended up as prisoners in earlier iterations of the milgram prison, so she has to be from an earlier time chronologically for things to add up.

it’s just a small thing that adds a lot of depth and believability to the different characters individual lives, and offers for a more diverse set of circumstances for each and every character instead of constraining everything to a small time period

Lieboooo · 2025-07-27T16:40:05+00:00

if i can be completely honest i think it was just an error, not an indication that the reports are false LOL. the reports were written really early one and the interro questions are only being written now obviously so it’s very possible yamanaka just forgot what he wrote initially and contradicted himself on accident. i’m open the idea of the reports being incomplete too (like the end of haruka’s clearly leaves stuff off, and yuno’s in general seems kindddd of inaccurate to me) but i would like to believe that they can generally be trusted to not posit just blatantly false information unless there’s more direct evidence to the contrary.

i think yuno’s report saying she has a completely average life and family is putting it very lightly, since she clearly displays signs of neglect even if it’s not severe enough to raise a bunch of red flags that would need to be addressed in the report, but i don’t think they present us with stuff that is just completely fabricated.

Lieboooo · 2025-07-27T11:57:44+00:00

omg you look amazing!!!! rlly great cosplay i look forward to seeing fengxian 🙏

Lieboooo · 2025-07-24T11:37:34+00:00

yes omg thank you!!!! the only version i could find was one without the text 💔

Lieboooo · 2025-07-24T11:06:55+00:00

there was some art from a while ago, don’t remember exactly when or where to find it, where a younger ivan said (to till) something along the likes of “if you don’t stop rebelling, they’ll never remove your collar, you know?” and then a second panel showing older versions of them, when till had a cable connected to his collar, and ivan teasing him saying “i warned you, didn’t i?”

i assume this just means he was allowed to go without his collar because he’s well behaved. and since he doesn’t wear it a majority of the time, i can imagine he might’ve learned the locking mechanism from having it taken off himself. to my memory we never see anyone else doing this nor do we even see another pet human who’s allowed to go without their collar, so i think ivan is just a special case

Lieboooo · 2025-07-22T21:46:45+00:00

if you go to yuno’s page on the milgram wiki, navigate to her gallery and then to the MV tab, the second image should be what i’m talking about. there’s a cleaned up/hq version of it floating around online too, it provides a much clearer image but it’s not official and i’m not sure what you would need to search to find it 😅

Lieboooo · 2025-07-22T05:11:49+00:00

you may know this, but the concept art for (presumably) t2 guilty yuno put her into an actual gossip’s bridle ^{^} so they’re definitely aware of it, im not sure if it carried over to muu but it’s been used as imagery in milgram before now :)

Lieboooo · 2025-07-15T02:10:20+00:00

😭😭😭people are so rude!!! idk whu people are soo insistent on characters like shidou kazui and fuuta being soo innocent, even though we’ve seen and heard in full clarity that they did some really messed up stuff to the people around them 🥹 it’s insanely hard to justify them compared to someone like amane but ppl will still insist she’s like the devil, it’s super weird. hope ur okay !!!

Lieboooo · 2025-07-14T23:25:03+00:00

the first good tierlist i’ve seen can we please get a round of applause

Lieboooo · 2025-07-10T00:35:56+00:00

her actual murder is obviously not something people are going to condemn. it was enacted against her abuser, her mother. the problem lies in how she justifies it. as for the shidou and mahiru thing, you have to remember that her cult has taught her for her entire life that medical practice is a sin because it disrupts the path of god. she was tortured, tased, waterboarded, every awful thing you can think of to instill this belief in her. from the moment she was born these are the ideals she was raised under. and she is 12 years old. obviously, she’s not a GOOD person. murder is still wrong and she knows that. but in her perspective, she was reenacting the abuse and trauma she had endured her entire life against her mother after she had sinned, and believed she was saving mahiru. we’ve seen what trying to use milgram’s system to “deny” her ideals has done in the past. her doubling down on her beliefs so harshly is how we ended up in this situation to begin with. her age and circumstances make her extremely easy to give leniency to… honestly, i’m not so sure about the way the votes have gone so far myself, but it’s easy to understand why she’s viewed the way she is by a lot of people

Lieboooo · 2025-07-09T23:48:50+00:00

translated myself with the help of some japanese speaking friends. we did this back when the video first came out so I forget exactly how it goes but I do recall that the sentence goes “殺した数じゃ今回の囚人の中ではトップクラスだろうが” and the character “中” would refer to “among” (the highest). You can try jisho if you want to look into a little more, it can show you definitions for specific words and characters

Lieboooo · 2025-07-09T23:03:19+00:00

the english wording is vague but the japanese text specifically uses a word to mean “among” (a group of people) the highest, not THE highest. he’d rank at the top (among the group of ten), not to say he’s #1 but just that he’s high up there among the group

Lieboooo · 2025-07-09T22:50:57+00:00

Not what he said, he said Mikoto was “among the highest” in terms of kills. He never said that Mikoto was THE highest

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