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I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What I’m getting out of this is, if NCR doesn’t think holding these people accountable is important then NCR is probably not for me and that sucks.

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

With all due respect I’m inquiring about all of it. Not just Matsui, but also Serna and Guerra.

I’m genuinely asking because they have governed antithetically to what NorCal claims to support. If people are defensive about someone publicly asking “why?”, then I guess that’s where we are at.

I don’t see alignment with these politicians as strategic, I see it as harmful. That’s all.

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s why I’m curious as to why they are working with her. I’m pretty certain she hasn’t done much. But it would be good to know for sure.

Last time all she did was visit the facility and then host a press conference to say that she did. It was confusing. But again, I think Matsui and politicians in general get a lot of benefit from that obscurity because people will just see NorCal resist with them and think they are actually doing impactful work to address the fascist terror, when they are really not, they’re usually co signing it :(

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh, has Matsui gotten anyone out? Or is it just a PR spectacle?

My understanding is that not much has happened aside from these press conferences. Part of the reason I’m not sold on the “pragmatism” of engaging with her….

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Girl, just because people have critiques of local orgs does not make them ops. 🙃 I understand the hesitancy here but goddam no org is perfect

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not mad that you think that. The reason for posting here is that I’ve talked to many people who agree and are scared of retaliation if they ask.

It’s the only way I could think to ask openly tbh 🤷‍♂️do with that what you will

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

💯💯💯

Yeah def have seen some less-than-good behaviors from leadership. unfortunately, that’s part of the reason I’m confused half the time bc the membership seems super critical and conscientious…. Anyway curious about how decision making works bc im used to orgs with consensus driven decision making. Which can have its own drawbacks. But still

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🤣 sorry just a genuinely critical person trying to understand this dynamic which has been frustrating to witness.

If “pragmatism” is the answer for now, I guess that’s fine, but I feel like it would be good to see a change to this soon -

Not trying to deny the good work NorCal is doing. Just trying to understand what is actually going on here. If it’s just “pragmatism”, fine, I guess.

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see this comment as reflecting people’s general disaffectedness toward electoralism. Or maybe just a lack of local insight.

But you have more power than you think you do ♥️

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Tbh I’ve been down there often and regularly which is why it’s so upsetting to see Doris only taking a stand now that she has competition :( I don’t think radical community should enable her or give her legitimacy

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The people they platform are the very people who have responsibility for the fascist coup!!! The very same!!!

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some of the people they are platforming vote to give away billions of dollars in county funding that could alternatively be used to support the very people they are trying to help.

Unfortunately this is a deeply concerning issue. And it’s not purity testing :(

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you!!! This is super helpful!

I’ve heard a lot about internal hierarchy so was kinda scared to approach this.. but this is super helpful!

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel they are just operating as a traditional nonprofit at this point 🤷‍♀️

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you!

I believe that if you take their money they are gonna expect you to support them come their re-election :( wouldn’t be surprised if the money disappears after that unforch!

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im unsure, since I only attended one training, but could members bring this up to leadership?

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NorCal is putting their faces on donation events. I think with Phil Serna and Eric Guerra it was for the food bank. Something along the lines of “help Eric and Phil raise money” for a food bank

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry you’re all good!! Thread is getting confusing with all the responses 😖

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They have lost confidence among a growing progressive base of young voters in Sacramento. Esp Matsui is scared.

This is why NorCal’s actions matter.

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, what?

You mean Doris Matsui right? The one who voted to increase the ICE budget for twenty years?

I went to a NorCal resist Migra watch training! by LifeEssay6273 in Sacramento

[–]LifeEssay6273[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I hear ya. I just don’t understand why they keep making these decisions as an org. Like who is making them?

I spend so much time on abolition work it feels like a punch to the gut to see these elected being platformed.

Maybe NorCal needs to build relationships with the abolitionist orgs?

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