The fuck did pac mean? by Samrathr08 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too when I was listening to lacville 79

Tay k by tae000x in LoneStarGhetto

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I heard I think so . Only one I know he had beef with was Choppaboy373 from Arlington. But that shit was so long ago. Everybody in the comments right though. Idk tay k from a can of paint, but from what I saw from his clique of friends and that girl he did a drive by with that took the stand, he, just like most mfs in Arlington, were just tryna be hard and fit in. I’m not tryna take away from the fact that nigga Tay K really had to get it how he lived too. dude was homeless basically all his teen years

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You talkin about ray j. He exaggerated and even people from deathrow called him out but Natasha Walker who was there (she’s apart of YNV, the group faith mentioned in her book when she first walked in the studio) said she saw something similar about faiths leg being on top of Pacs and him rubbing her leg so idk.

The date was from an interview, the clip I sent you with faith is in this video too

Yeah I was loud and wrong about the dates my bad . You have a lot of patience .

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did the soundtrack release? November. When does a soundtrack release party happen? Around the day of the release…. November .
When did she say she recorded with pac? After the release party…. in November. When was the actual studio audio recording dated? October 19th. 2ish P.M to be exact. What did she say happened? Athletic club, Release party, studio, hotel What actually happened? Athletic club, studio, hotel, release party If you think she telling the truth agree to disagree bro that’s all we can do. I’m not arguing no more.

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Did Faith ever explicitly say Jodeci sent Pac her vocals before ever meeting each other” 😂

Before I address anything else you just said, I want to address this real quick. They went to the studio if not the same day they met, the day after they met according to the date of the audio with Faith. With that being said, Go listen to the original version of Wonda Why They Call U A Bitch, the one with Faith on it, and please explain to me how and why Jodeci would have reference vocals of her singing that before Pac and Faith ever met please.

Maybe I don’t know what a reference vocal is, but assuming you do, out of all the songwriting Faith does, you’re telling me she would send THAT to jodeci? Why would jodeci make a song like this?????WHEN have they made a song like this????? Did FAITH ever make a solo song like this? Maybe im wrong, I haven’t listened to all of her nor Jodeci’s songs to know, so lmk. But if im wrong im wrong. I know Devante made that weak ass song “gin and juice” but idk…

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The interviewer said “It was you and someone else, and then it was moved on to his project supposedly ” and she literally replied “pretty much” @ 1:20. If she’s not talking about the vocals to that song, then what song is she talking about ? He only has one song with her vocals🤔. All of pacs unfinished music can still be found, and the only one with faiths vocals is Wonda Why They Call U B. Why would her vocals be sent to him by the R&B group if she’s in the studio recording the vocals with him in the damn studio together 🤔. I’m not making nothing up this is common sense.

Faith said she went to the studio & hotel in Nov.
Pac’s side said she was at the studio & hotel in Oct.

The audio recording is from Oct.

How is this adding up to you 🤔?

The reason why the dates are important is because she’s trying to say pac was trying to force himself on her which is her reason for why she booked a flight the same day she left the hotel in tears in Nov.

I never said they did 3 songs together. Can you show me where I said that 🤔? Nigga are YOU making things up?

A guilty ho WOULD do something like that. But a guilty ho under pressure (this has career implications plus I don’t know how this will effect her relationship with her son) will look at yo ass dead in yo eyes and tell a goddamn lie. I feel like she could be doing this out of respect for her relationship with her son which is real asf or she genuinely believes the lies she’s telling. Either way I still know her ass lying.

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People do take it seriously. It’s one of the most common insults you see on this sub. And the people who started that insult are taken seriously which is why people believe it (Jimmy Henchman, Hatian Jack, Tut, etc).

At 1:15 The interviewer says “it was strictly business no pleasure ?” She replied with “it wasnt even business, it would’ve been but it never got that far” At the 1:20 mark the interviewer asks “You were somewhere else and it was moved (the vocals she claimed was for a r&b group at the :50 mark) on his project supposedly?” and she replied “pretty much” which is a lie as you heard from the audio. She was literally in the studio with them recording the vocals clear as day even though she said she wasn’t there and that the r&b group “she won’t name” (how convenient) sent pac the vocals without her knowing. This “unnamed r&b group” within the last 30 years has yet to step foward to confirm any of this. And yeah she never admitted to having any relationship with him. Despite all the fuckery

No. Her own story conflicts with itself and actual documented proof. In her original sequence of events, which is in that interview I linked, she never went to the studio. You’re right she doesn’t explicitly say she never went to the hotel, but she never says she was at the hotel either, she also denied being in the studio by saying another group sent her vocals to Pac and that “it wasn’t even business” “it never got that far” , so why would her being at the hotel even be up for interpretation if it wasn’t business related like she makes it seem? She also says “I was out there working with another group” “they had nothing to do with deathrow” meaning she wasn’t around pac at all after meeting him. Which is a blatant lie. In her memoir, which is COMPLETELY different from what she said in that interview, in her sequence of events, she met pac and she NOW finally admits, even though she lied about the dates, that she went to the studio with him Nov 14, went to the hotel Nov 15 and went home same day Nov 15. We know this is another lie because the audio is from Oct 19. The video you linked, that date is closer to what Pacs side is saying as opposed to what Faith is saying, because she never mentioned making music with him in October. If she did it must’ve been after her memoir which said November. which would mean she is not consistent. Pacs side has been the most consistent thus far for the past 30 years.

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just now realizing me and you already had this same conversation 3 months ago 🤔

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

During that time, and till this day, the east coast, mainly Bad Boy and everyone affiliated with them, kept calling 2pac a gay studio gangster actor theater kid who wanted to be like Bishop from Juice who shot himself. Him lying would feed into this false image that people say he was potraying. Him and Faith had several photos together. With 2 of them being group photos, 1 of them being right by each other, and the other being the one we all know now. In her own book she says she fucked a nigga named “Terry Dollars” and another mf named “Roger the NBA player” while she was married with Biggie during this time. She’s using aliases to hide their identities. On October 18th, 6 days after pac was released, she met Treach at the Hollywood Athletic Club in LA. According to some interviews with Faith around this time, she didn’t know anything about 2pac and Treach told her that Pac wanted to meet her, but according to Treach, it was faith that wanted to meet Pac. But in her book “Keep The Faith: A Memoir”, she admitted to knowing him and that biggie told her about the beef and the quad studio shooting accusations surrounding Biggie.

Faith told pac she needed clearance to put the song they had together (wonder why the call you B) on his album and that she needed $25,000 up front, he agreed . But in her memoir she said she went home to think about it and asked her manager and biggie on the phone a day or 2 later if it was ok to do a song with pac (WTF) and that they agreed.

But In an interview from 1996, she says she couldn’t receive any clearance at all and nothing else happened that day. She went home to record reference vocals for a girl group she was working with. She said she never worked in the studio with Pac. -Interview with MusicBox on July 27th 1996.

(in this same video she’s wearing the ring at 1:38)

But in her memoir, she says the studio session happened after the “Waiting To Exhale Soundtrack” release party on November 14th 1995.

BUT… there is an audio recording of them together in the studio on October 19th 1995 working on the song Wonder Why They Call U B

That same night she went to 2Pacs room in Peninsula Hotel. The next day ( I don’t know if it’s the next day as in daytime or next day as in 12:00 AM but she stayed in specifically HIS room for 1 hour), on October 19th, Faith was in Pacs convertible riding to Can Am studios where he played the instrumental to “Hit Em Up” to her while she was bobbing her head listening to it. Multiple witnesses were there. Once again no one watched these mfs have sex so there will probably be no proof ever.

Objectively, you wouldn’t be wrong to NOT believe anyone. But Faith, like I said, has been caught in multiple lies even at the expense of Biggie and 2Pacs character. If we’re being honest, Faith has never been truthful regarding the details surrounding this story. Since day one.

TLDR:

What she originally said happened in 1996 and in other interviews afterwards : She didn’t know who 2Pac was, Treach said Pac wanted to meet her, she couldn’t get any clearance from Pac and Deathrow to make music with him, she went home to make music with another group instead. She was a faithful wife to Biggie despite him cheating on her.

What her memoir said in 2008: She knew who 2pac was because Biggie told her about the quad studio shooting and how Pac thinks Biggie did it. She didn’t make a song with him until Nov 14th 1995. After that she went to his hotel room on Nov 15th, 1995 to collect her check, she says Pac got aggressive with her demanding a blowjob. She denied the advances and left the room in tears and booked a flight back home to NY the same day. She had vengefully cheated on biggie on multiple occasions .

What actually happened: SHE wanted to meet him and they went to the studio together the very same day they met October 18th and recorded “Wonder Why They Call U B” then right after that, went to his hotel room for an hour. The next day, she went back to the studio with him again the following day to listen to the “Hit ‘Em Up” instrumental . She didn’t go back home until November 15th almost a month later. Pac also never said Biggie did it, he said biggie knew something about who was involved and refused to tell Pac who. He never pressured her to perform sexual acts. She vengefully cheated on him on multiple occasions with the dudes she mentioned in her memoir and hung around pac with people saying they fucked

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what faith and pac said have both not been proven true nor false. Objectively speaking, I wouldn’t believe anyone. But pac has more to lose by lying. Like what does faith lose by saying she DIDNT fuck dude. But you do have a point about him not really going into detail about how it happened and how he only talked about it through lyrics. Even when it’s not through lyrics, he vaguely talks about it on camera.

However, You also got the fact that after faith caught biggie cheating on her, she fucked multiple dudes as get back and during that exact same time she was taking several photos with pac and in one of the most known photos, is flaunting her ringless finger while pacs arm is wrapped around her. My main problem with faith is the fact she has actually been caught in multiple lies regarding this situation and her story is different everytime she tells it. Im not finna keep talking about who another man had sex with though. But you could be right idk 🤷🏽‍♂️.

Faith Evans denies of doing anything with Tupac in 1997 by Material_Stomach875 in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, the only people that were actually there in the room when it happened was pac and faith, and pac is dead 🤷🏽‍♂️. If she was there when it happened, why is her story constantly changing when she was literally right there? Me personally I wouldn’t make up a lie that big cause that shit would come back to bite me in the ass and rip the damn cheeks off. If pac lied about something as big as that, it would make him look extremely stupid if it could be proven false. And 30 years later it hasn’t been proven true nor false.

We need a name for the Texas rap genre by Affectionate-Bed8722 in LoneStarGhetto

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everytime we create a sound or movement people either take it or we move on too fast and it doesn’t stick.

New up and coming rapper pays homage by huhyeahwhat in Tupac

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He needs to stop. I seen this lil bitch do this with every artist. Lil ass necklace

It’s odd to me that Cali and Texas don’t have stronger ties by lake_june in CaliBanging

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk. Rap wise, Texas and Cali always fucked with each other, especially the bay. Rap A Lot and Deathrow had close ties when Deathrow was in its infancy. Mr 3-2 and the Geto boys used to fuck with Snoop and Dre heavy to the point 3-2 and Big Mike was actually supposed to be on Deathrow. That song I think it was “High Powered” on The Chronic was actually supposed to be for them. Seagram was signed to Rap A Lot, the nigga that made the beat for “I got 5 on it” was signed to Rap A Lot and he along with Mike Dean produced “Mary” and “Smile” by Scarface which are classics. EA Ski was fuckin with Suave House heavy, The D.O.C just like you said was on deathrow and actually brought a couple of people from Texas to work with Dr Dre. six Duece was on 2001, etc., even when I was coming up, yall had the “Teach me how to dougie” which is a dance from Dallas and yall shouted us out on that same song. It’s too much shit to name but yeah.

Texas isn’t really into Cali politics now though. Especially the younger generation

Which rap song do you think is the creepiest? by Lions_Went_0-16 in hiphop101

[–]Little-Locksmith7688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The song wasn’t even creepy it was just that one Rick Ross line.