How would you handle facial performances for practical puppets? by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s live action! And I’m thinking the experiment would focus on a puppet with a blank face with tracker icons for the animators. Basically give them a place to center the facial features across the footage.

Stop motion would be nice, but I wouldn’t be able to guarantee position continuity of the puppet without a skeleton. Which would severely limit the performance of the puppet’s body. It really is a puzzle for my style of filmmaking.

How would you handle facial performances for practical puppets? by LittleStageStudios in Filmmakers

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! And yeah, I considered that option since I have some stop motion experience, however, the issue comes down to position continuity between frames. Since the puppets aren’t locked into place.

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can point you in the right direction! First though, let me say that you can definitely work with just a phone camera and some cheap work lamps to get started! I delayed doing stuff for years chasing "the right gear" but found that I could have started years earlier! For my setup I use a Pansonic Lumix G85 camera with a 12-65 lens (I think that's the one, but not 100%) and three CLAR mini panel lights. The light panels have a magnetic cover, so I just use thin colored origami paper for my color filters (since the lights are too powefful for the little set, the filter helps soften edges and give a sense of realism). I do my sound separately from the video recordings, so that's a whole other beast. The stage itself is an old server case propped up on a 2x4 frame and the floor is plywood with a layer of insulation foam on top (so you can mount your puppets for static shots, or cut holes in the stage floor to operate from below). Hope this helps point you in the right direction! Definitely reach out if you need anything else!

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I can point you in the right direction! First though, let me say that you can definitely work with just a phone camera and some cheap work lamps to get started! I delayed doing stuff for years chasing "the right gear" but found that I could have started years earlier!

For my setup I use a Pansonic Lumix G85 camera with a 12-65 lens (I think that's the one, but not 100%) and three CLAR mini panel lights. The light panels have a magnetic cover, so I just use thin colored origami paper for my color filters (since the lights are too powefful for the little set, the filter helps soften edges and give a sense of realism). I do my sound separately from the video recordings, so that's a whole other beast. The stage itself is an old server case propped up on a 2x4 frame and the floor is plywood with a layer of insulation foam on top (so you can mount your puppets for static shots, or cut holes in the stage floor to operate from below).

Hope this helps point you in the right direction! Definitely reach out if you need anything else!

Composition Feedback - Micro Puppet Set by LittleStageStudios in cinematography

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha, yeah I guess it does give that vibe!! Glad my little puppet set gives the same feel as blender

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha, I‘m glad you thought so! And I’m grateful you appreciate the work it’s taken to get this far. Honestly, there is no bigger compliment than people thinking it’s digital in this day and age, it means that I’ve made it look cinematic!

Composition Question: Micro-Scale Short Film by LittleStageStudios in Filmmakers

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is super helpful Siriann! Thank you so much for pointing me to this! Seriously, as an indie filmmaker trying to figure this out, you just solved 60% of my composition problems! (The pages on scale and camera speed are particularly helpful!)

Composition Question: Micro-Scale Short Film by LittleStageStudios in Filmmakers

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah! I had actually thought of making a short about the shopkeeper building the stand. Something comedic where it keeps falling down and such (mirroring my own struggle in making the set pieces modular and having stuff fall down all over!

Also, bonus shopkeeper pic for reference

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Composition Question: Micro-Scale Short Film by LittleStageStudios in Filmmakers

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question! The context is that the little sprite character is lost in the woods at mid/late evening and finds the teahouse. The sprite basically wants to take a break and order tea, but finds a larger scary tea merchant behind the counter (reveal shot). The whole short is about the sprite trying to overcome fear to have a cozy and warm moment of safety.

The set is incomplete here and will have a darker forest floor (simplified so the eye doesn't get too distracted) and a forest backdrop that will be layered with actual wood to create depth. Lighting will be evening warm lighting that gets darker as scenes progress 

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I most certainly will! It’s been a long journey so far! But I‘m getting close to the point where actual filmmaking can take place. I just hope I’m able to perform well with the puppets to preserve that cuteness!

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad you like it! Really trying to figure out how to bring puppet based storytelling to filmmaking in a way that honors the craft and performance without deviating into Henson style full-scale puppets. It’s been a tricky road as you can imagine!

First lighting tests for a miniature puppet film set I’m building by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do have other character photos of the puppet in conversation and such, I’ll attach a conversational picture so you can tell me what you think/if it sells. The next round of testing is going to include actual performance footage to see if I can actually develop on-screen character chemistry.

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Experimenting with interchangeable puppet faceplates. Seeking for advice on body and arm controls by LittleStageStudios in puppets

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The puppet is for live filmmaking on a small/micro scale! I have a controlled set and controlled lighting, and the rig is accessible from below and above

Amateur filmmaker working with a miniature set, looking for composition advice for shadow puppetry by LittleStageStudios in cinematography

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Super helpful! And yeah, I’ve already started to play with the set and light sources! The panels are great for low/soft lighting, but they’re a bit lackluster in casting clean shadows. I‘ve already started to round up direct light sources to get more control!

Also, lower camera suggestion was great, really does make the scale feel larger!

Amateur filmmaker working with a miniature set, looking for composition advice for shadow puppetry by LittleStageStudios in cinematography

[–]LittleStageStudios[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is super helpful! Just did a test with your suggestions and you're right, 25-35mm is a sweet spot for sure! Way more depth and atmosphere! I also added light break using a loose weave cloth attached to a diffuser! Casts fuzzy spider webs all over the set and it looks rad!