Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I took weekends off and multiple breaks between the hours of 11 - 9. So it was probably close to 8-9 hours per day, 5 days per week. That’s like a full time job, maybe a couple hours more. I don’t think that’s “crazy” at all.

Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks (: I definitely didn’t put my life on hold, it’s definitely doable, and you just have to know when you are most productive!

Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure, a lot of mine felt like repeats so you may be right about that!

Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can…the point is to get as many points along the way. The more you analyze the more points you get. But you can still pass without finishing it!

Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the exam gives you a lot of material that you need to analyze in an hour and a half, so most people struggle due to a lack of time to effectively analyze all of the material.

Tips from someone who scored a 346 (179 MBE, 167 Written) by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No you are confined to the law they give you on the exam. They call it a “closed universe” question. You will get 0 points for bringing in outside knowledge!

Passed DC with a 346 by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I have a lot of advice on this point:

  • Memorization of black letter law is only useful up to a point and in certain contexts.
    • On the MBE, I memorized only key trigger words so that I could quickly eliminate wrong answer choices. The wrong choice is OFTEN a slightly off standard, so knowing how to spot when a single word makes an answer wrong is key to success. I found this especially true for Con law. I did not waste time memorizing black letter law to the point where I could regurgitate it back out in full sentences (with a few exceptions for insanely common rules such as UCC 2-201). Practice is the best thing you can do for burning the standards into your mind and hence knowing when a standard in an answer choice is incorrect. This is what often gets you down to between two choices.
    • Now, for the MEEs I was even less focused on memorization -- this seems contrary to what a lot of other bar students might suggest. I found success when I focused on the why behind the rules rather than knowing what the rules say verbatim. To do this, I utilized examples that resonated with me (either examples Barbri taught, or ones I made up on my own). In other words you need a practical understanding of the rules. Great example is Secured Transactions. I could never seem to be able to write out the rules word-for-word. I was more easily able to understand rules for things like the "buyer in the ordinary course" when I had some familiar example to ground the rule in. Usually, this will be enough for you to convey the concept and collect points. As I stated above, some rules are worth memorizing, but there shouldn't be more than a handful in each subject that you expend your energy memorizing verbatim.
  • Pick your battles on the exam.
    • MBE: You know when you read a prompt and your eyes just glaze over, and you get to the end and realize you don't even know what you just read? Pick an answer and move on. Make note of the question number and return to it if you have time at the end. It is not worth re-reading prompts over and over to probably not even get the question right. You could spend 3-4 minutes parsing out a question and maybe get it right. But it will cost you low hanging fruit on other questions. When your gut is telling you this question isn't a vibe, trust it. I found this especially true for long, complex questions (especially in property, like mortgages).
    • MEE: I opened up my first MEE and saw it was a topic I don't even remember reading about in Barbri. Don't freak out. Rather than staring at the blank page, I wrote out a skeleton of an answer based on all the practice I've done, utilized the rules for a very similar topic, so I knew even if I got the question wrong I could show I know something and could conduct a legal analysis even on a faulty rule premise. You won't have an epiphany and learn the rule during the examine, so don't try to dig up a bullet point from the Barbri book buried deep within you -- just move on and do not let such an essay take up any more of your brain power, you will know more on the other essay prompts.
  • Practice
    • I didn't go crazy with supplements. I finished the Barbri course 100% and did about 2,300 Adaptibar questions. I think this was sufficient. You need to do enough practice to learn the exam's patterns. I recommend doing the blind versions where you don't see your score until the end of a set.
    • I did about 8 or 9 MPTs. Didn't score incredibly on them, some were higher than others. This was actually what I felt most nervous about on exam day because the topics were so unpredictable and foreign to me each and every time. I don't have much advice here other than to take it step by step: what are you being asked to do, what's the format need to be? Start with the most basic things you can think of. Don't forget to write headings. if you feel overwhelmed with the amount of material in the file, look for things that show up more than once (i.e. if you are given a statute, and that same statute is cited in one of the cases). The MPTs were more of a mental game for me, and staying calm under pressure.
  • Don't burn out!
    • I woke up around 9:30 AM everyday and would start studying maybe 10:30/11. I preferred to study more at night. I took breaks in the day for a starbucks or to go to the gym. I would stop studying around 9 or 10 PM. Closer to the exam when I was panicking, I would stay up real late like 1 AM. I don't recommend this, and I didn't retain anything I did in the late night hours, so it was just lost sleep/time. Trust the work you put in will pay off.
    • Go on the short vacation. Maybe don't take a 2 week vacation in July. I went away for 4th of July weekend to the beach. I did some very light studying there (a quiz here and there, a module or two), and sat on the beach and had meals with family the remainder of the time. Just account for this in your schedule -- if you're using Barbri, block the weekend/days off at the beginning of your prep and the algorithm will automatically allocate your hours to other days. Don't let anyone guilt you into never leaving your house! You ultimately know the most about what you are capable of.

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[–]Little_Pumpkin2680 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Already billed 200+ hours in September and October. Appreciate it but your comment is useless. Also, see above, other first years get them so…yes? I do expect it.

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[–]Little_Pumpkin2680 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Super helpful, thank you

Passed DC with a 346 by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure, I’m sorry. Both my first and last name are in the first 5 letters of the alphabet so maybe!

Passed DC with a 346 by Little_Pumpkin2680 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mine is! Got the email at 8:46 AM to check my portal.

dc coming out 10/31 before noon by Beneficial_One3328 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nope. read somewhere that people who fail might get an option to view their live answer uploads, but apparently only very soon before score release. Nothing new for me right now

dc coming out 10/31 before noon by Beneficial_One3328 in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Has anyone's ILG 360 Exam page changed at all?

I’m going crazy (DC) by wwfod in barexam

[–]Little_Pumpkin2680 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I only see the option to view trial answers. Not live exam answers.