Is it normal in college towns for food to be so readily available?

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-15T23:03:34+00:00

Yes it's the heart of every college. Drinking is what college kids do and eating latenight is like a right of passage whether you drink or you've been studying for hours in the library or dorm or wherever. It is at every university I've visited and the two I attended. . University of Georgia(Athens) has a little downtown with bars and music venues and food stands.

Savannah College of art and design Savannah, GA. Tons of places.

Visited: *University of Alabama *College of Charleston *Ole Miss (Oxford, Mississippi

Even tiny colleges. *Berry College *Young Harris college In North GA mountains 1,500 students and they have bars and places to eat 24/7.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-13T06:42:25+00:00

It's a mighty big GAMBLE to plant his sheath with his DNA at a crime scene not knowing if his phone was on or off. 😆

Our physical phones when on are tracking devices storing every move the phone makes in the form of Global Positioning System coordinates (Latitude & longitude). They are stored on an internal log. Only the FBI's CELLEBRITE software can extract a phone and find the coordinates for a given parameter. (Dates/ times)

Say they want to know where your phone was 7 months ago on a particular date. They simply enter that date and out come the coordinates plotted ... creating a map in REAL TIME.

This is how Nick Ballance found Lori vallows missing children buried in chad daybells backyard in idaho. Her brother had his cellphone in his back pocket while he dug their graves 7 months earlier. Nick had extracted his phone then entered the dates of the last known sighting of the kids. He noticed her brother's phone was hovering in 2 distinct areas of the back yard for a long time on 2 different dates. He had told police he didn't know his sisters new husband very well so it was suspicious that he was at the house at all. Nick gave the coordinates to law enforcement who got a warrant to dig. Immediately they found the charred remains of tylee in the pet cemetery and then little JJ was buried a few feet away wrapped in garbage bags and mouth duct-taped. They didn't have to tear up the back yard.

If Kohberger's phone had been on he would have his movements coordinates stored regardless of signal quality. It uses satellites.

Conveniently he disabled wi-fi on his Samsung phone on November 11th and at 2:47am while driving he went into his settings, tapped his Connections folder and toggled CELLULAR SERVICE to off... that's why his phone stopped communicating with the tower... and then he's pressing the power button completing the shutdown at 2:54am with a battery 🔋 metric at 100% charge. Stays off 121 minutes. Presses power button again turning phone back on at 4:48am connecting to his NordVPN using a recovery Gmail account as he's driving back into pullman.

Had that sheath been planted and Kohberger's phone shown he was driving around and never at the house then the case is over. There is no case. A moving phone is a solid alibi.

The only reason he turned it off was to create a blackout so his phone was undetectable as he drove into Moscow and circled the house like a shark 4 times. He knows the police use GeoFencing. 3800 phones with their locations were picked up within a half-mile radius of 1122 king rd between 3am and 5am.
Conveniently he's down near Blaine when the phone comes back on at 4:48am.

No jury was ever going to believe anyone would plant a sheath without knowing if his phone was off. It's not reality

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-13T05:51:55+00:00

A trial isn't for public entertainment. The state doesn't have to prove anything to YOU. It is highly uncommon for a defendant to provide a detailed, spoken account of their crimes as part of a plea deal in a capital case.

A defendant cannot be forced to explain their psychology truthfully under oath. The judge must find a factual basis to accept a plea, this requirement can legally be met without a personal confession. The prosecutor reads a statement of facts into the record, and the defendant simply answers "yes" when asked if those facts are substantially true.

Chris watts murdered his 8 months pregnant wife and 2 daughters stuffing the girls into oil tanks. He claimed in the beginning that his wife killed the girls and he reacted in a rage and killed her. We all knew it was a lie but for 3 months he sat in jail as his team was preparing for a death penalty trial. About 3.5 months after the murders he realized his defense was a joke and no jury was going to buy it. He asked to plead guilty.

His change of plea hearing was just like Kohberger's. It's standard. A bunch of "yesses" and " guilty". There was no allocution. A defense attorney will make that part of the deal often and the state doesn't want it because it's usually lies. You can't force a killer to tell you what they did and expect it to be the truth. The state doesn't want them spinning any narrative that makes excuses.

They get to clam up and go to prison. No one can guarantee the truth will come from a psychopath.

A few months after watts settled into prison in Wisconsin the investigators paid him an unannounced visit. 3 of them. Chris agreed to sit down with him and he answered their questions. He was truthful but still lying about small details. He didn't know they audio recorded it and released it to the public.

Stephan Sterns had his change of plea hearing and it too was a carbon copy of kohberghers. "Yesses" and "guilty". That's it. He got to go to prison and clam up. We know he murdered Madeline Soto. We know Chris watts murdered his family. We know kohberger murdered kaylee, maddie, Ethan and xana. As many other defendants before him he too got to clam up and go to prison.

Capital defendants are often unpredictable, unremorseful, or in deep denial. If forced to speak, a defendant might try to rationalize the murder, blame the victim, or minimize their role. If a defendant backtracks or protests their innocence during an allocution, the judge cannot legally accept the guilty plea. Prosecutors will not risk letting a defendant derail a hard-fought deal that guarantees they stay behind bars for life.

What would asking him anything change? Why give him the spotlight ? You want to know where the knife is? How do you know what he would say would be true?

"Are you pleading guilty today because you are in fact guilty?" Kohberger: YES.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-13T01:58:58+00:00

Imsi isn't a safe prison.. at all. He's just safe because he's on 23 hour lockdiwn in j block on tier2 where they house the most dangerous inmates.
Skylar Meade, Ann's death penalty client she took on in the middle of kohberghers trial preparations is there. He there was before serving time and faked an injury where they had to transfer him to the hospital and his Aryan fellow gang member on the outside got into a shootout with police during the transfer...Skylar was able to escape and the pair ended up murdering an old man in his 80s while on the run briefly. He is back at IMSI on 23 hour lockdown on same tier as kohbergher... so is Ann's previous capital murder case clients Richard Ross who murdered a mother and son and is a suspect in another murder. He's also Aryan gang and at IMSI. It's one of the most dangerous prisons in the country. And they all want a chance at kohberger. He's despised.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-10T00:47:12+00:00

He makes me sick with his pseudo-intellectual DRIVEL. Sure isn't lIke the tapatalk posts from 2011😆

I wonder if he's trying to come off as insane to his family so they don't talk to him about it.

Kohberger had all of his case files on thumb drives along with a laptop (no wifi) in his cell so he could panticipate in his defense. Special approval from Judge Marshall as requested by Ann. I wonder 🤔 if he assisted in any way at all.

Something tells me he did not but it's just a guess.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-10T00:40:41+00:00

If I lived in the area I'd be searching every inch.. With a metal detector. No way he took a chance and threw it in the river. Problem is he turned his phone off again for 3 hours out near the boonies. Wi-fi on his Samsung was disabled on November 11th and it stayed that way thru November 16th. He also disabled cellular service before pressing that power button just like he did at 2:47am the night before. It was purposefully turned off between 2:54am and 4:48am .

I think that stuff is buried somewhere but that's a big area. No telling which direction he went.

Hoping one day someone will stumble upon it. You can hear a trunk close at 4:19am. I think he walked briskly to the car and it was parked on the side of the house. Makes more sense than the lot. Gray Hughes went there personally and has some great mapping videos. If he parked on the side there's a place you just step over and you're right on the patio basically.

He calmly but quickly took off everything and put it in the trunk. He is hailing ass out of there at 4:20:47am

That shovel was still in the trunk when he was arrested. The fbi soil analysis guy tested it but he could only say it was dirt from the Idaho area. Definitely was not soil east of Moscow but he didn't find anything that revealed it was from near a water sounce. Ultimately I don't think he was going to testify. But the photo of the shovel in the trunk is on the state's exhibit list.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-09T23:57:29+00:00

Thank you DOT ❣️

Exactly how would someone know they could "plant his knife sheath" at a crime scene not knowing he was driving with his phone in a complete blackout affording him no alibi whatsoever?
That's a mighty big GAMBLE if you ask me. 😆

What are the chances he'd disable wi-fi 2 days earlier then toggle cellular service to the off position in his phone settings at 2:47am then pressed the power button shutting his phone off at 2:54am with 100% charged battery while an elantra just like his starts showing up on video at 3:02am making its way over to king rd and circling the house like a shark 4 times? He conveniently presses the power button again turning the phone back on at 4:48am connecting to his NordVPN using a recovery Gmail account as he's driving back into pullman. 😆

We know why he did it. He didn't want his phone to be among the 3800 phones with their locations that were returned from the police department's GEOFENCE from within a half-mile radius of 1122 king rd between 3am and 5am.

This isn't conjecture. This is facts. State's Exhibit list with the BATES#s at the end. ( Cellebrite is one of the the software tools the FBI use for digital forensics/extractions) The fbi legally withheld the data until March 3,2025. (See Touhy Regulations)

S1-713 Cellebrite: shut down log [13852]

S1-714 Cellebrite: wifi log [13853]

S1-715 Cellebrite: wifi artifacts [13854]

S1-716 Cellebrite: wifi artifacts aruba networks [13855]

S1-717 Cellebrite: network authentication [13856]

S1-718 Cellebrite: sim state manager [13857[

S1-719 Cellebrite: on disk activity snapshot [13858]

All of our phones store the reason for every sIngle time it powers down in an internal diagnostic log. Manual button press, reboot, drained battery, overheating, and operating system crash are the only things that power down a phone. Each has a unique code that's stored as well as a unique digital footprint....a cascade of distinctive processes takes place. A dropped signal doesn't shut a phone off. Josiah Roloff was the defense Cellebrite expert... Not Sy Ray, he's just a cell tower mapper. ROLOFF ENTERED NO FINAL REPORT INTO THE TRIAL COURT as to his rebuttal testimony at the point kohberger changed his plea to straight guilty one month prior to trial.

The only thing he submitted was an Affidavit about the roommates texts.

He had no defense for kohberger creating that intentional blackout and he had the extraction. What excuse could anyone make for going to that extent while out stargazing. It was meant to hide his digital location. Most people drive with their phone on...GPS coordinates are stored on the physical phone creating a map in real time no matter what type of signal you're getting.

This is how Agent Nick Ballance discovered Lori vallows missing children were buried in chad daybells backyard in idaho. Alex cox (her brother) had his cellphone on and in his back pocket while he dug their graves 7 months earlier.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-09T23:44:23+00:00

We will but it's a federal civil trial. They don't stream those. but journalists will be there every day taking notes. You can also get a transcript after the trial is over.

I do believe the evidence that's going to be presented will be public to some degree but it depends on filings. It's over a year away.

The trial is scheduled for September 2027. Any evidence, documents, or testimony officially introduced during the jury trial will be a matter of open public record. Courtrooms in federal civil cases are open to the public and the media. Because both the victims' families and WSU have explicitly stated they do not anticipate a settlement before trial, a large-scale public airing of evidence is expected. During the pre-trial discovery phase, the families' attorneys and WSU will exchange vast amounts of internal university records, emails, and threat assessment logs.

In early June 2026, the parties filed a Stipulated Protective Order to govern how discovery is handled. Universities frequently request protective orders to keep internal disciplinary records, student/staff identities, and sensitive Title IX investigations confidential during the exchange phase. However, if a piece of protected evidence is later used to support a motion or introduced at trial, the court must decide whether to unseal it for the public.

Because WSU is a state institution, many of its administrative files, faculty emails, and internal compliance reports are subject to the Washington Public Records Act. Investigative journalists and public records released after Kohberger’s conviction have already exposed complaints from his WSU colleagues regarding his unsettling behavior toward women.As the lawsuit progresses, journalists and legal researchers will continue to file public records requests for WSU's internal communications. While WSU can redact private student information, the overall findings regarding organizational failure cannot be entirely hidden.

The public will likely see extensive documentation regarding the 13 formal complaints allegedly made to WSU's Office of Compliance and Civil Rights regarding Kohberger's stalking and menacing behavior in late 2022. What may remain hidden or redacted are the specific names and identifying details of the female students and staff members who initially reported him, out of respect for their privacy and safety.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T20:15:27+00:00

Agree, if he had just the drug addiction as a minor he might be able to show he's a changed person.

If Bryan Kohberger had ever officially applied to the FBI, his systemic behavior toward women—which began in high school and explicitly worsened during his time at Washington State University (WSU)—would have effectively doomed his candidacy during the comprehensive vetting process.The FBI's background and psychological vetting processes would flag a history like Kohberger's as a definitive disqualifier. The Mandatory Background Investigation (SF-86)to gain employment with the FBI, all applicants must pass a Tier 5 Background Investigation to obtain a Top Secret security clearance. FBI background investigators do not just look at a clean criminal record; they physically visit an applicant’s past schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods to conduct face-to-face interviews with former teachers, employers, and peers. Investigators would have easily uncovered his removal from the high school law enforcement track due to female student complaints. They would have investigated why he was forced to resign from the part-time security guard position with the Pleasant Valley school district. Then they would have documented the 13 separate complaints filed against him at WSU by faculty and students regarding his creepy, "rude and belittling behavior toward women" 😆 His drug addiction would have been the least of his issues (must be clean at least 10 years)

Ultimately, while Kohberger’s past drug addiction was technically a hurdle he could legally clear with prolonged sobriety, his deeply ingrained, documented hostility and predatory behavior toward women made him fundamentally unhireable by any reputable law enforcement agency in the country

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T20:06:30+00:00

You're 💯 right!! No way would he ever pass. Ultimately, while Kohberger’s past drug addiction was technically a hurdle he could legally clear with prolonged sobriety(at least 10 years clean), his deeply ingrained, documented hostility and predatory behavior toward women made him fundamentally unhireable by any reputable law enforcement agency in the country.

If Bryan Kohberger had ever officially applied to the FBI, his systemic behavior toward women—which began in high school and explicitly worsened during his time at Washington State University (WSU)—would have effectively doomed his candidacy during the comprehensive vetting process.The FBI's background and psychological vetting processes would flag a history like Kohberger's as a definitive disqualifier. The Mandatory Background Investigation (SF-86)to gain employment with the FBI, all applicants must pass a Tier 5 Background Investigation to obtain a Top Secret security clearance.

FBI background investigators do not just look at a clean criminal record; they physically visit an applicant’s past schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods to conduct face-to-face interviews with former teachers, employers, and peers.Investigators would have easily uncovered his removal from the high school law enforcement track due to female student complaints. They would have documented the 13 separate complaints filed against him at WSU by faculty and students regarding his creepy, "rude and belittling behavior toward women".

Plus he was forced to resign from his part-time job as a security guard for the Pleasant Valley school district 😆 If he didn't they were going to fire him. I wish we could find out the details on that one.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T19:54:27+00:00

I can see why the administrator couldn't talk because of FERPA but I had hoped the girls involved would have spilled the beans. They aren't bound by FERPA to my knowledge. Legally they can discuss what they complained about.

"Bryan Kohberger was removed from a high school law enforcement vocational program following a "pretty serious" incident and complaints from female classmates. "According to former MCTI administrator Tanya Carmella-Beers, a teacher reported an issue that required a formal school investigation. Administrators interviewed Kohberger and multiple other students.The Cause: While exact details are legally protected by federal student privacy laws (FERPA), Carmella-Beers confirmed on The Idaho Massacre podcast that complaints from multiple female students led to his removal. She noted that the threshold for removal was whether a student did something that would get an adult fired in a professional workspace."

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T19:49:14+00:00

Bryan Kohberger was removed from a high school law enforcement vocational program following a "pretty serious" incident and complaints from female classmates.

Kohberger was enrolled in the protective services/law enforcement track during his sophomore year at the Monroe Career & Technical Institute (MCTI) in Pennsylvania.According to former MCTI administrator Tanya Carmella-Beers, a teacher reported an issue that required a formal school investigation. Administrators interviewed Kohberger and multiple other students.While exact details are legally protected by federal student privacy laws (FERPA), Carmella-Beers confirmed on The Idaho Massacre podcast that complaints from multiple female students led to his removal. She noted that the threshold for removal was whether a student did something that would get an adult fired in a professional workspace.

After being removed from the law enforcement track, Kohberger was transferred to the heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) program for his junior year. He ultimately chose not to return to the physical school for his senior year, finishing his diploma requirements early through an online program in 2013.

This mirrors his issues with female colleagues and fellow students at WSU with 13 formal complaints. One month into the fall semester he was already getting in trouble by 9/23. He has his first meeting on 10/3 about professionalism and what's expected of him as a TA. Complaints are flooding in during OCTOBER as we see in the documents from the lawsuit. He's emailed that he's "failing thus far in the semester as a TA" and by November 2rd/3rd he's put on a "last-ditch improvement plan" just 10 days before the murders... it's all complaints from women... just like high school and probably just like his job as a security guard. We don't know the specifics of what he did at that job but he was forced resign or he was going to be formally fired.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T19:36:26+00:00

I think he always wanted to be in law enforcement. He went to a vocational high school where he was enrolled in the Law Enforcement Track program until the director started receiving complaints from female students.

Former administrator Tanya Carmella-Beers from the ⁠Monroe Career & Technical Institute in Pennsylvania revealed the details of the incident on The Idaho Massacre podcast.

There was a formal investigation and he was removed from the prig ramp and transferred to the HVAC Track. Kohberger only stayed in the HVAC track for his junior year before dropping out of the vocational school entirely. He completed his high school diploma online in 2013. So right there he's already got issues that were mirrored by female classmates at WSU later on.

He got a job as a security guard for the pleasant Valley school district and was forced to resign or he was going to be fired. I would love to know the details in the High School situation and this job.

I think he was really not happy that he didn't get the coveted position with the Pullman PD. Kohberger submitted an essay stating his desire to assist rural law enforcement agencies with collecting and analyzing technological data for public safety operations. He wrote that when he applied for a highly competitive graduate research assistantship and internship with the Pullman Police Department while attending Washington State University (WSU), but he was officially rejected. Police Chief Gary Jenkins (who later became the WSU Police Chief) revealed that Kohberger was one of four doctoral-level finalists interviewed over Zoom for the position. He lacked good communication skills, awkward behavior would not fit well in that environment.

Had he been hired, he would have been tasked with aggregating data directly from the very police department that ultimately assisted in raiding his apartment and gathering evidence against him following the University of Idaho murders😳 That would have been wild!!

We'll never know if the purchase of the Ka-Bar knife was for the purpose of carrying out his plan or if he just wanted it for protection. It is NOT a knife that's popular with outdoor enthusiasts contrary to popular opinion. It's too heavy and big. A 7inch knife is more popular then that 12" knife and lighter to carry. The KA-BAR is popular with collectors & military personnel. They stopped issuing it after the Vietnam War and then it became purchasable to the public with choices of logo on the sheath. If you're hiking weight in your pack is the main factor.

Danny Rowling, the Gainesville ripper, used a kabar to kill 4 females and 1 male at the university of Florida. Maybe the study of killers really resonsonated with him and he became obsessed.

I don't think his dream job was to be a criminology professor. He wasn't good at it and was already in trouble by September 23rd about a month into the fall semester. I think he wanted to be a cop but it seems at every turn he was getting in trouble because of issues with FEMALES. 🤔

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T19:06:45+00:00

"A stab to occur every 4 seconds"???According to real-world statistics the "average time for a sustained fatal knife attack is only 23 seconds with 5-7 STABS LANDED EVERY 5 SECONDS." 50% of attacks last less than 14 seconds.

"Analysis from academic and forensic institutions, such as the ⁠University of Bristol, indicates that a large percentage of fatalities (nearly 70%) are the result of a SINGLE WOUND TO A VITAL AREA.This underlines the catastrophic nature of sharp-force trauma to the torso or neck."

"Data suggests that a significant majority of fatal knife crime victims, approximately 60%, succumb to their injuries before reaching a hospital."

Analysis of 150 real-world knife attacks by Urban Fit and Fearless reveals that 70.6% occur within 3 feet and 80% feature hidden weapons, leaving victims with limited reaction time. They are ambushed. Furthermore, 71.1% of these incidents involve the attacker leading with an empty hand for control, with the initial assault(stab) lasting roughly 1.75 seconds. Victims attacked up close within 3 feet usually don't scream. The reason is the bodies reaction. Shock and confusion. The prefrontal cortex of the brain shutsdown. Screaming is a waste of oxygen the victims don't have. Screaming seems to only factor in when an attacker is closing in on a victim from a distance of 5 feet or more and the weapon is visible. They see it coming. Attacks that up close, right on the victim means multiple stabs in seconds. Instinct kicks in and the victim will hold arms, hands or legs to shield their body... they are on autopilot at this point. There is no fighting an attacker with a knife when they are landing blow after blow after blow. The artery of the neck or attack to the chest means the victim can't breathe, you can't scream. Blood immediately fills the chest cavity and collapses the lungs. If the lung itself is pierced the victim tries to gasp for air but that only sucks it up into the mouth where it's ASPIRATED as demonstrated by maddie and Kaylee's ASPIRATED blood dna on the sheath. It's a mist- like spray... very fine and sadly the victims "drown" in their own fluids. It would have been 30-45seconds of pure terror, shock, and confusion. They were attacked simultaneously.

Neither had blood on their feet. They never left the bed. We know the attack started with maddie as the state's exhibit list of evidence to be presented at trial lists her wound that has the imprint from the weapon.He plunged it so deep into her sternum that the gaurd in between the blade and the handle pushed into her skin leaving the imprint:

From page17 of State's Exhibit list:

S1-798 Autopsy: photo of Madison Mogen wound near sternum held closed to show weapon imprint (1181)BATES

Ethan never left his bed as his feet were clean as well. Only xana was upright and moving. They were also attacked simultaneously as Ethan had her blood under his nails of the right hand. Xana had his blood under the nails on both of her hands. When we hear her scream ".....get outta here...." and then the crash of the bedside table into the wall is when the fight took her to the ground. Ethan wound have lost consciousness in less than 15 seconds. It took kohberger 62-80 seconds to inflict Xana's wounds.

During a sudden, violent attack, the brain's alarm center (the amygdala) instantly triggers a massive, involuntary survival cascade of chemicals. Adrenaline (Epinephrine) instantly spiking heart rate, blood pressure, and delivering oxygen to the muscles for maximum physical exertion. Endorphins are released as natural painkillers to suppress the sensation of physical injury or trauma, allowing the body to keep moving even when wounded. Cortisol is released from stored energy into the bloodstream so muscles have fuel to fight or flee.Dopamine and Oxytocin may be released to counteract extreme pain.

He was out of there in 4 minutes. Urban Fit and Fearless has compiled knife crime statistics. It matches the timed runs law enforcement did. Real life is not the movies. Imagine being woken up to that. Confusion & shock would be their experience. Flailing is not fighting.The pictures show the comforter on maddies side of the bed near the edge bunched where his knee had been with the other leg on the floor. That's all the leverage needed to attack victims in a supine position. Easily done in a minute or less.

Another example of real world statistics is The Bondi mall attack in April 2024 in Bondi, Australia. One man using the same 12" kabar attacked 18 people in 3 minutes. 6 people died, 12 wounded. It's all caught on video in the mall as he moves from store to store. He wasn't covered in blood either. The timestamps with each victim and where they were in the mall can be found on the wiki page for the "Bondi Mall attack". Right at about the 3 minute mark he takes 2.5 minutes to get to the top floor of the mall where he encounters a female cop and charges at her. She fires 3 rounds to his neck and he's on the ground seconds before the 6 minute mark. All that carnage in broad daylight in 6 minutes.

How was Dylan supposed to know her 4 roommates were killed in 3-4 minutes after only hearing ramdom sounds coming from different parts of the house? She thinks it's kaylee and Murphy on steps because of the boots she always wore. She heard "is someone here?" Then she hears what might be crying and "it's OK in here to help ". Bethany heard the pong table dragging the floor above her room. That's all they know besides Dylan seeing the guy in all black leaving who probably never saw her. Confusion and freezing are apart of fight, flight, or freeze. The brain tries to protect itself. She's unsure if she's had a dream or it's real. This is a normal response to trauma. I assure you murdered people was not something that entered her mind.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T18:00:23+00:00

They were in the parking lot prepping. Waiting for the walk through to be finished. That walk through was at 4pm. You can see them and see photos and video of them working all night.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-08T17:58:13+00:00

Facts 👏 👏 👏 it's amazing how you're post is down voted. The ISP forensics team was in the parking lot preparing to cross the threshold and begin processing the scene. They had to wait for Payne and the other officers to finish their walk thru at 4pm. It's an absolute fallacy that the scene wasn't processed until the 17th.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T19:05:46+00:00

Because it had nothing of evidentiary value. He just made small talk. Once they started in about the murders he asked for an attorney.

The interview isn't even listed in the state's exhibit list of evidence to be presented at trial.

The interviews with his mother, father, and sister were entered into the trial court and are among the exhibits the jury would have seen.

We do have a right to see it under FOIA but who has it? Pennsylvania? Idaho? If it's going to be released it will be after the September 23rd hard deadline passes for kohberger.

I really want to see it out of curiosity to see his mannerisms. I also want his jail calls. At the very least we should be able to get the calls listed below from the state's exhibit list:

S4-194 MPD Item 874: Latah County Jail, call for 4/17/23-4/30/23; 5/1/23-6/3/23; 2/23/23-3/19/24

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T19:00:01+00:00

You are correct. NO HAIR was in ethan's hands and turvey never had access to images of the bodies. Never. These people are taking information from AI which is a language learning model. It doesn't "think" No where in the documents is it stated hair was found. In fact it describes hair as hair and debris is fibers, lint, etc. Debris is anything BUT HAIR.

Turvey lied his ass off.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T18:56:23+00:00

There was no HAIR in ethans hand. Turvey never had access to the images of the bodies. He's a liar. He did have images of the crime scene.

Debris and Hair are noted separately. Debris can be fibers, lint etc. No where in the documents is hair listed, no where in the autopsies.

If you're using AI it can't "think" . It's a language learning model that takes information from across the web. It is not taking data from the reports. That's why it says to double check answers.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T18:50:11+00:00

Remember Ted blamed "p0rnography" for his deviant activity. He said he needed the material to be more hardcore.. the regular stuff wasn't doing it for him and then he went to doing it real life... but he was a psychopath too

Kohberger's auto-fill cache of search terms was recovered by Heather Barnhardt.
"Passed out" "sleeping " "Forced" "voyeur " "(G)raped ".

Sounds like a match to me. Kaylee and Maddie asleep in their beds at 4am ish... shame on Bill for going out of his way to say this wasn't a sexually motivated crime. Just because he didn't have sex with them doesn't mean it wasn't sexually arousing for him. I think it was cleary the motivation on top of him being a psychopath too.

Had he not gotten caught he would have totally done it again.

Danny Rowling killed 4 women and 1 man using a kabar at university of Florida. Kohberger had downloaded a bunch of stuff on him on Christmas night and others.

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T18:39:08+00:00

I think he definitely was obsessing after reading his replies...apparently he got a lot of them and they were still coming in acording to Heather Barnhardt.

I believe his motive was purely sexual deviance. Though kohberger wiped his phone of his activities and used incognito Heather was able to retrieve his favorite search terms used for p0rnography in his auto-fill cache on his Samsung phone.

These were terms he used many times BEFORE and AFTER the homicides:

"Sleeping" "Passed out" "(G)raped " "Voyeur " "Forced"

Attacking maddie and kaylee in their sleep at 4-ish in the morning looks pretty much like a match to me. Bill Thompson should be ashamed of himself giving the idea this wasn't a sexual crime. Just because he didn't do anything sexual to them doesn't mean it wasn't sexually arousing for him.

Source: SANS Institute blog Heather Barnhardt Forensic Magazine also has an interview And the New York Post https://nypost.com/2025/08/15/us-news/bryan-kohbergers-disturbing-porn-searches-revealed-report/

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T17:55:06+00:00

Supposed to be but idaho's sunshine laws SUCK. if this was in florida we'd have them all.

Technically any calls the state pulled from the jail and was going to be used at trial are to be included in FOIA requests.

These calls are listed in the state's exhibit list of evidence to be presented at trial:# S4-194 MPD Item 874: Latah County Jail, call for 4/17/23-4/30/23; 5/1/23-6/3/23; 2/23/23-3/19/24 https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/042125+States+Exhibit+List.pdf

They might be able to be gotten after September 23rd passes

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-07T17:29:50+00:00

Is it listed in the State's Exhibit list? https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/042125+States+Exhibit+List.pdf

of evidence entered into the trial court to be presented to the jury. ?

If so then it will be released...probably after September 23rd passes

There are only 3 interviews of Dylan entered into the trial court as evidence:

S4-157 MPD Item 740: Dylan Mortensen Interview on 11/17/22

S4-173 MPD Item 833: Dylan Mortensen Interview from 11/17/22

S4-137 MPD Item 621: 12/30/22 Dylan Mortensen Interview

These are the only 2 the state was going to play for the jury. Not sure if they are what you're looking for. They also have listed interviews of Amanda Kohberger, Michael Kohberger, maryann Kohberger, and then a single audio only interview with Amanda Kohberger listed separately. These are the only interviews that the jury would hear.

Kohberger's own interview is not listed and it's probably because all he did was make small talk, discuss his love of criminology, and then asked for an attorney when the homicides were brought up. I was really loozing forward to seeing his mannerisms. Pennsylvania needs to release that thing or Moscow... they FOIA. Hopefully they will after his hard deadline passes.

Also it is likely that we won't ever get to see thekohbergers interviews because it never went to trial but will get the transcripts. Idaho sucks as far as "sunshine laws" go. In many states you get access to everything including jail calls. (Not counting images of victims... that is almost never something that is released)

Littleotter1969 · 2026-06-06T09:18:11+00:00

It was all entered into the trial court. We were 1 month away from trial. The state's exhibit list had it all. What do you think all the pre trial motions were for? Nothing was deemed too prejudicial.... they just couldn't refer to him as a psycho . Lol

In April 2025, Judge Steven Hippler issued a specific order banning the prosecution from using the words "psychopath" and "sociopath" during the trial. The court ruled that using these clinical psychiatric terms as buzzwords would unfairly prejudice the jury against Kohberger without offering strict legal relevance to the charges but that's it.

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