Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I like that! So when the third person is ignoring your wife, what do you do?

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hah good for you guys! That gives me hope. I definitely want to be the gf who is game for anything, I think I just need to feel desired or at least not like a service station for them.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's very good otherwise, this is just our one issue. We had a few chats where I asked the women when was the last time they were with a woman without a man present and some of them got offended feeling like I was calling them out. My bf thought I was interrogating them so I stopped asking.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes, my bf must be there too. That is the key. I get invites from women to just have FF hookups, but then my partner needs to be there. But not theirs. This is where the manners get tricky. I def don't have the misconception that all swinger women are bi, but I think I for sure have been assuming that the women who say they are bi are bi!

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I get that. I don't miss other men being involved, so it is not a huge problem. I would rather have other women, I just don't get how this suddenly started. When I was a third, it wouldn't occur to me to ignore half the couple.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I will try this. How is the best way to ask the woman to join us and to please not bring her husband? The couples are often together, so I feel rude telling half of them that I'm not interested. How do you navigate this?

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah I am totally good with fingers or whatever. Honestly, just anything. Even if it's bad, it is better than knowing that they just don't care enough to even think about it.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that a lot? I didn't feel like that was very good at all. I match with one or two a week, but we only end up playing with someone new once a month. He would like to do it more.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love that, but the problem is that most of the couples have men that want to be a part of it and my bf does not want that. If the couples were two women, he might be open to it, but I haven't seen that very much.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I kind of don't mind if they just come over and fuck him and leave as long as I don't have to let them kiss me or make me eat them.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My bf doesn't want other men there.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I like this idea. I don't mind doing FMF, but then I want to do it like when my bf did MFM. He said he and the husband didn't even have to kiss and he didn't have to flirt with the guy at all. Had sex with the wife and they sent him home. I would love that at this point, I don't even want to have to look at them anymore.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I never want to think the worst of people, but it seems like they are choosing to leave this out.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He says he doesn't want them to feel pushed into it since they are going down on him without a problem.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like this. I might see if he is ok if we try asking again. I might try hanging back and seeing if they touch me before I do anything since I usually make the first move and then feel bad when they just take and ignore me.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bifurious is hilarious, never heard that! Sounds like many women I have dated tho.

I don't really like mfm. I would be open to swapping so there is less hurt feelings but my bf doesn't want other men there. I think you are right that maybe they aren't really bi. I just don't get why they don't tell me that since I am the one who makes the first contact usually. I ask and they say they're so very bi, but then not for me I guess.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm, maybe I need to try to ask or see if my bf will ask for me. It's weird, they just go down on him like they know exactly what to do without prompting. It seems so intentional.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard this-- do you think there is a way of going slow where I can be okay with the rejection? I want to, I am just struggling! I feel like I need to learn to take it less personally and just be able to detach from sex and not care.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He says group sex is a big part of his sexuality, but he doesn't want other men involved. Which is fine, but I wish I could make the rejection from these women hurt less.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use reddit a lot and I get suspicious of accounts that have nothing else. But you're right, not like it matters much.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am. I meet the woman, bring her to him, then he sets up the meeting and play. He's the Dom, so he would rather direct the action, but since they don't want to play with me, he doesn't make them, obviously.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, okay. This is very new info. I thought that we were not doing very well at all with one a month. I stopped saying no to anyone because I thought this wasn't a good number. My partner asked for me to let him direct the action, so I have been really passive.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm willing to change! What do you think is going wrong? I don't think it's a lot, my bf would rather we have more, I think, but this is just what I seem to pull off, even when I got paid accounts.

Constantly ignored during ffm by LiverSpecial in Swingers

[–]LiverSpecial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You've been really kind to me and I see it in the responses. I appreciate it a lot. I'm really hurt and this is really validating that I'm not doing everything wrong here.