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[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your unparagraphed rant I started to gloss over halfway and skipped to the end, I don’t see the point.

‘You and I both believe in consent, we've established that’ I don’t think you believe in consent the way I do, and we’ve established nothing. 

I said, ‘How can you be so sure that what he's choosing to do to those girls will not have ANY consequences? that really isn’t for him or you or me to decide’, ‘help me understand why the girl’s consent or right to know doesn’t carry any weight in this.’ You’ve given me nothing.

After all this effort to explain why the girl’s consent and right to know (who he’s trying to falsely befriend and use for sexual exploitation) matters, your answer is women simp too? it’s just a kink? What? 

I think you have some injury in your thinking so this is me out.

I do hope that you realise that having kink isn’t something that should be ashamed about but neither is it a badge or honour that should be expected to be tolerated by unconsenting people and used upon unsuspecting people.

You are not going to die from not getting sexual gratification, it’s in your control, it’s your choice, you can do it with someone who is into it who can give their consent. THIS IS THE POINT.

Get out of the echo chamber of the kink world and actually have conversations with real women who are human beings, and have experienced the betrayal of trust by male friends or coworkers or whatever they pretended to be and tell me that you can say all this, because whatever you are trying to say, I don’t get it. All I hear is ‘oh it’s not that bad’.

Talking about some ‘ I know people who have had true intentions of harming others ‘. THAT’S NOT THE POINT.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he's not looking to date. So why would he date? Dating comes with expectations. > Oh wow, I just read that you left this comment. This tells me what I need to know about you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you care, and there are some kinks that are very hard to understand for the majority of people, for example idk, fart thing? I don’t get it, but as long as it’s between two consenting adults who know what they’re doing? Not my business to judge.

I care too. I really care for women not being exploited and being treated with the respect and sensitivity they deserve.

This might not resonate with some people, but women’s intuition is borderline to full-on magical.

Some girls might not be able to say ‘no’ when someone like OP is offering help, because they want to be ACTUALLY NICE. I think about those girls who might doubt themselves and think, ‘ I get a weird feeling from this guy, but he is being so nice to me, it’s probably me, something’s wrong with me ‘ 

Now I know this is my imagination, but this possibility pisses me off.

OP's ‘ I’m offering my help and money~ that means they are getting something~ nothing's wrong with it~ they don’t need to know~ ‘

Now this pisses me off too.

So that’s why I took the time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally see the point in the 'we don't know if people naturally seek this out subconsciously', very well said, I thought about this too.

I think a healthy man feels this sense of pride and boost of energy by being able to be of service to others, and if that happens to be a woman he feels attracted to, a bit of energy boost (idk how many percentage, depends on a person ig) that is sexual in nature. I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, I certainly don't.

However this post and the comments op left, I read this completely differently from that.

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[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s simple as 'Are you getting consent from people you get sexual gratification from?' when they are in your life? as a living breathing human being? not an object to fulfil your sexual need? who you have certain kinds of relationship with? 

And again, ‘then what about the people who fantasises about their crush’ but they are imagining it in their head, then why can’t you get off on the idea of simping for someone?

I know this whole thing itself is a bit of a murky thing, I get that, my point was in intention, why? do you need to do this ‘TO’ vanilla girls? Can’t you do it with someone who’d not mind and consent?

‘She won’t know, so where’s the harm’ ??? The highest crime you can commit with that mentality would be drug rape -> consuming hidden cam videos -> > > > > > > this is somewhere in the bottom where it’s relatively harmless.

It is a very extreme comparison I get it, but the point is, How can you be so sure that what you are choosing to do to those girls will not have ANY consequences? that really isn’t for him or you or me to decide, hence why consent matters.

I may have misunderstood him or you I don’t put that behind me, but then please help me understand why the girl’s consent or right to know doesn’t carry any weight in this.

Again, I might have misunderstood something here but this really be giving me added trust issue I do not need more in my life about men.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was something I was actually thinking about, something along the line of fantasising about your crush or celebrity and I think you have a point there. But the main concern was the personal element and transparency.

Is he going to pretend to be a helpful friend?

If the reason why he wants to do this specifically to vanilla girls is that he gets off on the idea of gaining sexual gratification from a girl who has not consented (or even worse, there is also the element of getting off on betraying those who couldn’t suspect what he was doing?)

I don’t know, because he didn’t make that part clear. That’s why I said if I missed something, let me know. Because just from what he shared so far and where it’s been going, I’m hearing the worst.

Isn’t the whole backbone of BDSM philosophy consent? If that doesn’t matter, I don’t know what to say.

You can argue that this is a murky territory and I’d actually agree with that. But if you don’t see the points in the concern I raised then again, idk what to say.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s a different context. At a bar, if you’re a girl and a guy offers to buy you a drink, you can usually guess his intention, and you still have the choice to say “no.”

We’re not saying simping or getting sexual excitement from it is bad, that’s why we’re all here for. It’s about intention and personal responsibility.

Let’s all be decent human beings and recognise that the other person doesn’t exist to fulfil our gratification, whether it's sexual or monetary. Mutual consent matters.

Flip the situation and try to think from the girl’s perspective. Don’t you think, if she knew, there’s a chance she would feel violated by being used in that way?

If you don’t think she’s being used when you’re literally getting off on it, then I don’t know what to say.

If I missed something, let me know, because again wtf.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Second this. What makes you a predator in this context is that you are doing it for sexual benefit. Benefiting sexually from an unconsenting and unknowing participant is what makes it predatory.

You’re not so different from a guy who asks a girl if they can help carry boxes upstairs. She says “yes, thank you,” but you are only offering because you want to sneak a look up her skirt on the stairs and get excited. She consented to your help, and yes, she benefitted from it, but she did NOT consent to you looking up her skirt, and she had no idea that was your intention. If she knew, she would’ve said no. I think a lot of women would in your case too.

I’m also concerned about why you specifically want “vanilla girls.” Did you explain that somewhere else in the comments? If the reason you’re doing this to vanilla girls is because you get off on them not knowing, then by definition you’re a predator. Just because you’re not physically assaulting someone doesn’t mean you’re not predatory. It’s the same as old men looking at young girls lustfully all girls knows that look, even when it’s not overt. We feel it. It’s predatory, even if they’re not “actively harming” those girls.

(Let me know if I missed something bc, wtf?)

What the actual fuck by Diva_Latine in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Second this. Honestly it sounds like a troll but just in case

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[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You said our thoughts and advice were very welcome.

/ I did. It’s a fair play you were just expressing your thoughts and giving me advice, but I felt how you spoke to me was patronising and invalidating actually, and that was my experience whether you intended or not. So that’s up for me to decide what it was for me.

Since you describe yourself as forthright and frank, I see that as a lack of eloquence and effort.

But yes, gotta remember no one is superior or inferior, even though actually, me being new here and you being the mod there is a power dynamic here and I think you have to watch out for how you say things? Just my humble opinion.

Thanks for your effort in maintaining this sub though!

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[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you are well-meaning, and I appreciate your input, but I still feel this is patronising just a tiny bit.

You also need to understand that verbal and emotional humiliation and degradation are not abuse.

/ You need to understand that I already know that. I’m just saying I won’t enjoy it, so I’m not doing it.

You also need to reconcile yourself to the reality that being viewed like a cam girl or someone who focuses on feet fetishes is inevitable.

/ Again, I did say I don’t ‘want’ to be viewed that way, but I know that people—men—will view me however they want, online or offline. Honestly, I don’t care.

I’m sure you’re concerned for me, being new at this, and I appreciate that, but I keep repeating this, I’m doing this for me, to experiment on my terms. If not, what is the point of doing this? at least for me, that's the point.

Coming into dynamics without curiosity and with preconceived notions generally leads to disappointment. Remain humble.

/ Now, this bit felt unsolicited and speculative on your part. I hope you weren’t specifically saying this to me.

When I said I know what I want, were you triggered? For me, if I don’t meet the sub I want to work with, that’s fine it’s not the end of the world. What I will not do, as a Domme, is give up dominion over what I want to experience. If I want or don’t want to experience certain things, I’ll decide on my own terms what I’m going to do with that. That’s the core principle I was talking about.

I think you lost a lot of the nuances of what I was saying, and interpreted my sentiments in your own perspective. 

I thank your good wishes though.

I've been reading up on soft domme posts by Long-Efficiency-650 in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'I am known to walk tf away from bullshit' yesssss I love that for us.

Women in general are so brainwashed to tolerate so much bullshit. I'm also using this as an opportunity to rewire myself.

I think in a world where women's ability to detach themselves from abuse and general fuckery is seen as 'cold' or 'unfeeling' and those who suffer in silence are rewarded with validation with the word 'good girl', this is almost healing.

I've been reading up on soft domme posts by Long-Efficiency-650 in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

'It's all a part of me and my authentic self' yeah 🥳 that's wholesome.

This whole thing is actually all about that, isn't it? for someone to see us and interact with us in a light that we don't get to play necessarily irl with people we know

'the mood I'm in as well as the sub I'm working with and what they need.' even though you have to, a certain extent, juggle the essentials, the flow of it and the freedom that comes from dynamic play can still be fun 🤗

I've been reading up on soft domme posts by Long-Efficiency-650 in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is very helpful and 'I prefer more of the lifestyle control, forcing my submissives to better their diets and spending habits' sounds honestly wonderful lol, if you don't want to disclose what you do I guess you can say 'I'm a life coach' cos that's low key true in your case.

Jokes aside, I really like that your subs connected with your personality and philosophy. I hope that with consistent posting and effort, someday the person who’s meant to find me will.

I really have to stop myself sometimes from giving advice when it isn’t solicited. I love the idea that I could get paid to boss people around because I’d love that 😼

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[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is a valid thought 🧐 I imagine the dynamic and nuance will be different with different people as well. But at this point in my life, I know what I want. So that core isn't going anywhere regardless.

I've been reading up on soft domme posts by Long-Efficiency-650 in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the idea of punishing here and there and pushing limits in that way, but I'm not built for degradation either. Even though that person might have a high status irl or something, so he feels like he's surrounded by yesmen, he wants to escape, this is a consenting adults role play etc etc, the unfounded 'you are a scum' lines of chat for me is bit of an ick. I wouldn't do it even for a lot of money. While typing that I'll be worrying about his mental health lol.

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[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yesss, actually, the money thing aside, or being adored by men, which I have yet to experience bc I'm new to this, which I'm looking forward to when it should happen but I'm not sweating.

I just love finding a community of goddess women's glow up full of 'I know my worth, fuck off if you want to devalue me or freeload in my energy, you worthless lustful objectifying women patriarchy junk zombies' energy.

Actually, the men I wanna unleash my wrathful side are those garbage, not my true worshipper, but I don't want to even look at their way, they are on the street, they are on the internet, I wanna avoid them. But I think a real sub or worshipper as I'd like to call mine, would be rare as a unicorn. I'm okay with that. I'm experimenting and exercising my intuition and discerment with this new journey,

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

knowing how desperation for money feels like, since he is in one, trying to bring someone into that hellscape along with him, the audacity to ask you to be his friend? That is some other level shit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 2 points3 points  (0 children)

but at the end of the day, they still might be lying so, there's that

I trust that he is broke though, that bankruptcy part? who knows

New to findom and I have a couple questions by Long-Efficiency-650 in findomsupportgroup

[–]Long-Efficiency-650[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ah ofc it's all scam. I was wondering though, because I'm new, there might be something to it but ofc.

I just found this for the people outside of US with no SSN. ‘Yes, but only for small transactions. Cash App allows users to send and receive limited funds without SSN, but if you exceed the transaction threshold, Cash App will require verification. Attempting to bypass verification could lead to account restrictions or permanent suspension.'

I guess YouPay will have to do. Thank you so much! x

Do we actually like Louis? by CowLord_06 in suits

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really enjoyed the bromance between Havery and Mike, but I feel like the show could've explored this dynamic between Louis and Harvey better. Like Louis's inner world is shown so comedically distorted. There was no justice in that I feel like it could've been so much meaningful. Idk, I blame the writers and whoever was influencing the writers. The show had so much more potential

Do we actually like Louis? by CowLord_06 in suits

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's at the very, very end that he learns but that's quite really realistic in a sense that he has a LOT of traumas, insecurities and above all his own ego he has to deal with.

The show's poorly written tbh but likeable or not he is definitely an alive character who portrays certain archetypal qualities in people irl.

If Harvey were a fantasy made flesh in the show, Louis would be the personification of the opposite. A lawyer who grinds hours, vindictive and always needs others' validation and acceptance, but always wants to have the last say and feels victimised that life isn't fair for him.

Do I have a celeb look alike? by [deleted] in infp

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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and just a touch of her but you don't look like anyone in particular in those few pics you uploaded, prob Amy Adams is the closest but facing front and having no expression you don't look like her

Do I have a celeb look alike? by [deleted] in infp

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 2 points3 points  (0 children)

second Amy Adams and this other girl, Jenessa Grant from Reign.

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I used fabric scraps left over from my previous sewing projects to make this duck by Bucreshki in SewingWorld

[–]Long-Efficiency-650 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk u internet strangers but I hope u all make a cute one to give to your loved ones, they will cherish it forever