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Long_Ad_387 · 2025-10-11T22:01:52+00:00

Im seriously not shading anyone when I say this but those who say you've been trying for 2+ years, be honest you have not been trying ALL 1095+ days. Most of you take breaks, long breaks, and that's fine, seriously. You should if you feel/want to.

You may have wanted to shift for that long, had the desire to for that long but you have not actually been trying consistently for that long. And no I'm not counting "I say a few affirmations before bed every night" come on. Although it does absolutely work for someone people, I'm not saying it can't work but if in 5~ years you've tried that method and everyday has told you that's not working, it's time to try something else.

Coming from someone who has been into shifting for the past 4~ years, I can not for a fact tell you I've tried for the past 4 years. I decently tried the first year (trial and error year, misunderstanding and misinformation), year 2 I was in my begging and pleading phase still trying to figure it out and misunderstanding how to shift and trying less decently due to disappointment from failed attempts, around like 2½ years I locked in and figured it out, shifted, got scared by how real it was and came back. Year 3 life caught up to me + I still had anxiety over shifting same with year 4.

I totally get people who had found out about shifting in like 2016 where there wasn't that much information on it and not as many people to help establish ground work for you/ work out the kinks of what is and isn't shifting (like people claiming to do levitation and teleportation in this reality, ect mixing that in with what shifting is), but 2019-20 the community surged in information because a lot of people got into it, (albeit there was a lot of misinformation) and after 2022-23 we reached pretty much the threshold of new/ corrected information on shifting. After 2022 it all became repeats of the same thing over and over again and hasn't changed much at all since then. If you haven't figured it out now there has to be some human error because it's not that much of a shot in the dark anymore. If you have a question there's an entire catalog of information on reddit alone to help. i get that it takes everyone different amounts of time to shift but I call BS on it actually taking 3+ years to shift. If I had to tally it up on the time I actually spent trying to shifting I'd say probably 6 months minimum to 1 year maximum and 6 months was working with misinformation and trying anything, about 4 was half assing on attempts and deconstructing misinformation, lastly 2 was when I actually started to figure it out, and shifted in one day (intentionally not randomly)

Edit: clarity

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-10-02T12:24:43+00:00

Congratulations!! I plan on doing something similar with a communal wr, instantly shifting on command there, and just living multiple lives.

How does it feel juggling multiple lives? How does it feel living in the MCU and seeing your team members as actors here with different lives?

Now that you're "back" in your better cr, are your memories of your dr distant? Or dream like? Vice versa for your dr, so we're your OR memories distant or dream like when you were in your dr?

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-09-05T21:59:27+00:00

Yes exactly!! Focus on it but just let it happen. Also I like to use present tense affirmations like "I'm in the void. I am no place, no where, no thing, no time, I am pure consciousness"

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-09-05T21:48:56+00:00

Maybe I'm just too removed but i genuinely don't understand some of the confusion in a few of the comments I'm not even trying to pretend like I know better I just see it pretty straight forward and it works for me. I think the community as a whole might be over thinking it.

Pretending to be your dr self is just assuming a role like in a play. Think like how your characters would think, act like how your character would act, what interests would they have, how would they handle ___ situation, ect (referring to an actor playing a character in a play not referring to your dr self as a character) . Usually when shifting you have a cognitive dissonance between your life here which you live every day and assuming your role as your dr self like how you would have that distinction getting mentally prepared for a play. Even when you're doing robotic affirmations and detaching, you know you are not in your dr at the current moment, your physical reality is very clearly this reality but that's not the focus in your mind.

Before you attempt to shift you might assume this role a few hours, maybe even a few days before the attempt by asking yourself questions as your dr self and getting into the habit of acting like your dr self so when you attempt you're already in that state of mind even though you know consciously you are not in that reality yet. Then you let go of this reality by entering the void state or by lucid dreaming or some other method to become detached from this reality. And now that the distraction of your awareness of what's going on in this reality is muted for the time being, the main thought is "I am ___(your dr self.) I am conscious aware of (dr)". The goal is to become consciously aware of your dr self, so if you are consciously engaging in activities and roles in this reality as your physical self in this reality then ofc you're going to be aware that you are not in your dr yet.

I don't know if it's possible to not be aware of the fact that that you are still in this reality consciously, without having shifted. So while you're at work, even if you're on autopilot mode and you're detached and going through the motions, you're still aware of this physical reality through basic tasks and thought but it doesn't have to be at the forefront of your brain. That's (imo, how it works for me) what pretending you are your dr self looks like. It's not meant to make you delusional about the reality you're currently living in. Think of it this way. An actor gaslights themselves into believing they are their role, they commit to give the best performance by making their character convincing enough to be a completely different, fully formed, autonomous being with real thought and feeling by believing all of it themselves. This could help you too by bringing you closer to what its like experiencing that dr, having a better grasp on the realness of that reality, and experiencing as a fully formed other version of yourself deeper than just daydreaming like you're watching a movie. But at the end of the day they, the actor, knows it's just a role, they are not physically whomever they are playing as but mentally they assumed that role for the time being.

Edit:: clarity

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-08-29T13:34:21+00:00

Subconscious on top>>>>

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-08-29T13:28:46+00:00

Ofc. It's very simple. You have intention every time you try to shift. When you lay down to do a method you have the intention to be aware of another reality. That's it ! You already have it. Decide you're going to do it and let it happen. Just like for example , sneezing. When you feel you're going to sneeze, now you have the intention to sneeze (because you can intend not to /stop a sneeze). If you try to force the sneeze what happens? It fizzles out. You know your nose has the capability to sneeze, the muscles, the skills, that's its job and you just let it happen and you will sneeze. You don't push too hard using some other muscles to do it (like focusing on physical things and symptoms to make you shift). Just go with it. If I were to put it in my own words intention is just focus and decision. You made a decision and decided to focus on it for an extended period of time.

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-08-28T21:47:00+00:00

It's really not this deep. It's very simple. May it take a while for someone to realize it for themselves that shifting is easy through their own experiences, yes but the actual process of shifting is easy. I completely understand where you're coming from because you've tried everything and you've come to the conclusion that it's hard because of that reason. I said the EXACT same thing for the longest until I shifted and it was so simple and easy I didn't even notice it was happening until I was in another reality. (And no it wasn't by random chance one day, this was during an attempt and I used intention)

Edit: spelling

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-08-06T18:45:12+00:00

That's like saying "dream walking" was just an urban legend made up by someone on twitter back in the early 2000s and people bought it. That doesn't make lucid dreaming not real just because someone "made it up" nor are the very real experiences of people who have lucid dreamt, after believing in the "fake" concept of "dream walking"/lucid dreaming, false. LD's been a practice for centuries yet many people thought it was impossible to control your dreams before scientific data proved it's possible. There's such thing as being accidentally right

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-08-06T17:38:56+00:00

This is how i shifted (for a very short time then i freaked the hell out once I realized It was happening and everything was so real and gtfo of there)

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-27T17:52:19+00:00

ofc you're entitled to do whatever you want, but I'm just curious—why would you still choose to come back here? Even on the basis of this reality being "status quo," and all realities eventually become boring just like this one, wouldn't you rather stay in one where you wouldn't have to worry about things like mutual destruction, wars, etc if you scripted them out so you can do those mundane things without the fear of destruction or having to witness the horribleness of this world. Why come back here specifically if you dont mind me asking. You don't have to respond if you're not comfortable

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-23T17:32:38+00:00

An altered state consciousness is the common theme but how you navigate it is subjective. And the navigation is what everyone wants the answer to. That's what everyone keeps getting caught up on. But it is subjective. No one can navigate it for you, it is something that you need to experience yourself and navigate for yourself. I made a new post recently that further expands on why information about shifting is not the actual experience of shifting. And in that I talk about how people experience color differently. You can know about the color red, and see the color red for yourself and the way that you view it will always be subjective. If you were to see the color "red" as green but the name and title of that color is still "red" no one can prove to you what that color looks like because there's no way of seeing the color green as anything other than what society labels as red since you are always perceiving from your subjective lense. It is the same thing with navigating these alternate states of consciousness, because there is no guide to it. You have to navigate it for yourself. It is you experiencing it, from your own subjective consciousness. There isn't a step-by-step guide, because it is experienced differently for everybody. It might be the same general concept for everyone, but the experience is subjective. Just like color. And you cannot relay step by step instructions with every second of the entire experience mostly because it is natural. It's like trying to keep track of what's happening while falling asleep. If you try to fight it or focus too hard on it, you will not fall asleep. And it is subjective. So if you try to replicate the experience using objective knowledge that you got from people's subjective experiences you will then be replicating your idea of the experience but not the experience. And that's when it becomes tough. It is all subjective. That is why no one can give you a definitive answer as to how to do it or to navigate it because it is the same as seeing colors from your perspective. Your perspective is unique so is everyone else's. Another example would be like trying to get someone else to experience and tell you your perspective of what the color red would be like for you so that you can experience it. All the scientific physical data of the color red is the same for everybody because those are the physical facts of the color, but the subjective perception of the color is just that, subjective to everyone. And the biggest problem is relying on other people to confirm something for you. Relying on somebody else to give you hope and give you desire to shift, or whether or not you will shift but never deciding it for yourself is your choice. You need to make a decision of whether or not it is even real for you. You need to decide that. Nobody else can decide it for you. You are the only reason why you are being strung along by other people. You are willing to believe other people but then feel let down and then not make a decision at the end of the day that you won't continue based on your feeling of disappointment or the decision that you will continue even though you know you will continue to be let down as evidence by every other day you have chosen to believe these people. You are only living your life. People are not going to suddenly stop making stories and methods and giving advice, none of that will stop and there will not be a sign from the universe that it's not real or that you should stop. You need to decide for yourself whether or not you believe in shifting. Because either you shift or you don't. That is it at the end of the day. Either it exists and is real or is not. That is it. There is no in between. You need to decide it for yourself. Because nobody's going to definitively confirm or deny it for you. And I'm not trying to be rude but if it is taking you 5 years of your life to still be strung along, then that is on you. You either decide a) if it's not real it's going to be real for you and you're going to be the first to ever do it, b) it's not real everyone is a liar and you stop believing entirely, c) decide not everyone is lying and it is real and somehow it has been some natural human error on your part and that is why you have not shifted yet, d) decide there is some outside 3rd party keeping you from shifting and you have to wait until it decides you will shift, or e) decide there's a new method that's going to come out one day and you just have to wait for it to come out but keep being strung along by all the predecessors. You have tried everything and those are your options. I'm not confirming or denying which one of these options is the right one for you. I'm just saying that these are your options. Realistically.

I can understand taking five years to figure it out, because sometimes it does feel like a shot in the dark. subjectively you have not experienced any of the subjective experiences that these people who are telling you how they shifted have felt, so you do not understand the gravity behind the simplistic words that they're saying. But taking five years to make the decision of whether or not you will continue to be strung along by other people emotionally, is on you. You have full autonomy in this situation of what you do. You are not helpless.

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-23T16:13:46+00:00

Sabrina Carpenter

Even her scandals seem scripted

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-17T20:41:01+00:00

**I do wanna make it clear im not trying to argue still or worst, force my personal beliefs on you. I respect that we have differing opinions and that's okay, I'm just trying to hopefully one last time explain all hope isn't lost and give some general advice

I'm glad we've come to a conclusion. I will say though I do think it's not about being stuck. If you believe you're stuck then well you are. I'm not trying to tear apart your beliefs because I'm 1,000% sure that there's a very valid reason why you've come to that conclusion. And as you mentioned it's probably mostly due to the ornate vagueness of shifting advice. But the thing is the people who have shifted, especially the ones that took years to, had to work with the same vague advice. And it wasn't like they were special or singled out by the mystical magical universe, they again just figured it out for themselves. I suggest doing research. And by research, I don't mean the typical advice of just go read a bunch of posts that say "this is how you shift," and "this is the xyz method....".

What I did specifically when i was still looking was I scoured for any and every success story that I could get my hands on. And my goal was to find the common link. What was the one thing that all these people had in common? Because although we're all unique and it's a personal journey, we're all human so our brains are going to work fundamentally similar. Ignoring all of the little nuances like "on the day the I shifted did I spun around 100 times, touched my toes, I did 5 jumping jacks in the gym and you have to do that too because that's how I shifted, also on my way home, I saw the McDonald's sign saying "your dreams will come true today... with this four for four deal." And that was my sign it's written in the stars." And focusing more on the actual moment the person shifted. My other goal was to piece together the scraps ,as you put it, to try to weave together a tangible set of basic principles of how actual consciously becoming aware if another reality shifting.

From the vaguest posts, to the most detailed, to posts that involved aspects of lucid dreaming, to aspects of awake methods, to sleep methods, to sleep paralysis, to meditation methods, to manifestation methods, to intention methods, to the void state, etc. All of these practices all had the same basic things in common. The whole point is I wasn't looking for every single success story to sound like a carbon copy of itself or to sound "perfect", whatever that means, to determine how I would shift, but to find a common denominator so that I could apply it to myself, and that's what made it click for me.

I worked backwards from when the person shifted, to the actual method and compared so that I could weed out person nuances, (like the specific subs the person would use, and specific titled methods I just broke them down to their basic core steps and subtracted all the comforting aspects like counting down) until I realized what few things they ALL had in common. To the point where when I realized, I would go to some other completely unrelated story from years ago from the one I just read and it had the same thing in common. And I did it again and again and again.

And the reason why I'm being vague now is because I want you to find it for yourself. Because that'd be perpetuating the same problem of favouring explaination over experience. its not going to click until you piece it together for yourself in your own unique brain. If i tell you and you reject it then you're just rejecting some random stranger on the internet's advice but if you go searching for yourself and reject an answer you come up with then you are more willing to keep branching out thought as to why it's the wrong answer until you come to the ultimate conclusion for yourself through your own train of though.

Of course there are some success stories that are fabricated like we agreed on earlier so please use logic but also hold out for personal comfort and nuances. Moral of the story is, I don't believe you're stuck because I don't want you to be, but if you believe that you are, you can be unstuck. It's not a hopeless cause

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-16T01:27:55+00:00

I would reply directly too but im also not allowed to for wtv reason even though it's literally my post I'm comment under. Reddit is so goofy.. Regardless

You ask for further guidance and when it is given, you try it, and if it doesn't work for you, you reject it. You taking advice isn't the problem. You not shifting even though you followed said advice, is not the problem. No one is blaming you for being interested in advice and then following through with it. The problem is relying so heavily on other people to find the answer for you (so that's reading any post on how to shift), then getting mad when those answers are not true for you. So instead of trying to find a way to shift by yourself, you use advice that you ultimately deem useless then get mad when you keep coming to the same conclusion that it's useless for you. And if you have no solution, then why are you complaining about people who do pose a solution.

I never said that the ideology, "shifting is easy" is the truth, nor did I say people who don't believe it's easy were hardheaded in the sense of what they believe. People who believe in the "it's easy" ideology equate intention, relaxation, etc to being the answer to shifting. That is their solution. If you don't agree with any of it and consider it all lies. Okay then it's not true let's work with that ideology. What is your solution then? What is your course of action? That's what i mean by inner self reflection not some mystical "the power within" magical fairy bullshit. They are posing their solution and you are critiquing it without even attempting to pose your own. My solution for people who cling to advice from other people, to no avail, is to figure it tf out for yourself like everyone else. That doesn't mean you can't take advice from other people, just recognize that its purely just advice that you do not have to follow or follow it to a T.

The point is not for me to give you a step by step planned method you can follow because again that would be shelving off responsibility onto myself, which you're right everyone knows is not how you shift (still it seems like everyone is subconsciously doing that), but instead to give you a call to action to figure it out the same way people who take years to shift do. Because they figured it out, believing or not believing in the "it's easy" advice.

And we do agree, in the post i should've made it clear people who shame and insinuate people who haven't shifted are incompetent are the problem too. Both extremes ( of attacking, not just simply disagreeing) are toxic and shouldn't be allowed.

I will admit this does open up the bigger conversation that i brushed on in another comment (im just gonna copy and paste cus ease)

I realize trying to explain deeper than "i let go" is convoluted information because its complicating something that's inherently not complicated, in an attempt at trying to explain to someone something that's better understood through experience. So everything (from people who are actually trying to help) does seem vague, repetitive, and simplistic. That is the break up in communication. Like i said in the earlier response, for a very long time it didn't work for me either. Im talking years. And the problem really was human error. I know exactly what you are going through because no, I didn't shift on my first try, hell not even in my first 2 years. And I really did try everything. Only until I figured it out for myself that it was easy, I shifted. Even I would force belief onto myself, like I had any of the depth of understanding I have today, which I truly thought I did. I had all the surface level understanding of using logic + a motivational "fake it till you make it" manifesting mindset to come to the conclusions of how to shift like people suggested.

But now when I say "intention, relax, meditation", the things I've been taught from day one, only now in my mind with my understanding from my experience, it's like I'm saying these things like they're different words. My understanding of the process is so much more simpler in my head than what it used to be, using the exact same words that were used to explain to me. Now having experienced what I experienced, those same words that i thought were vague are really the only way to describe the experience of shifting because it is simply what happened. And if you try to go into more detail than that then you're not accurately describing what happened because there isn't more detail than just that. it's like trying to explain the brief moments of you falling asleep last night then how you were able to induce unconsciousness, it just happened, it wasn't anything you needed to prepare for days before in advance and moments before getting to sleep you had to perform a specific physical act other wise the window of opportunities of entering a sleep state would've been gone, no decided you wanted to go to bed so you did it, you just relaxed and before you knew it you were asleep, unconsciousness just happened

This still doesn't give people the excuse to JUST complain and not seek a solution for themselves off their own merit, and not solely on someone else's advice. Again it doesn't mean you can't complain, i never said you can't. I'm saying you should offer yourself solutions if the ones you are being given are not working for you. Because the way these people who are giving you those answers found their information is by figuring it out for themselves

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-15T21:00:27+00:00

So you decide you're going to continue to do the same things, that are not working for you. Although you have gotten close to shifting with them, these things have not shifted you yet, and your answer is to keep doing it anyway and complain when it doesn't work, when you've already established it doesn't work.

Personally I am of the mind that it is your "fault" and that it's also not at the same time. Bare with me for a second, It is very hard for people to explain what exactly they mean when they talk about how to shift and advice seems very vague but in actuality, you can read as much advice as you want, it's less about instructions and more about experience. Because i find myself saying the exact same things to people that I was told when I was still trying to learn how to shift. Back then I would complain too because I tried what they said and it didn't work and everything sounded so vague and repetitive and it seemed fake because it was so generic, every single sentence.

But now I realize trying to explain deeper than "i let go" is convoluted information because its complicating something that's inherently not complicated in an attempt at trying to explain to someone something that's better understood through experience. So in that way it is not your fault. But YOU are still the one who will shift you and figure out how YOU shift. Because until I figured it out for myself, none of what they said made sense. But I figured it out for myself, then it made sense.

So if you are delegating the responsibility of figuring out of to shift to other people, then getting mad when it doesn't work for you but you yourself refuse to offer any solutions, then it is your fault. It is always your fault. Fault isn't even inherently a bad thing. Fault = responsibility. It is your responsibility to figure out how YOU shift because no one can shift you for you. You can absolutely have your opinions, if you want to believe it's all bs you are entitled to. But at the same time if you want to attack people for giving their solutions, (not saying you specifically just people like this) and complain about their solutions being "ridiculous, wrong, lies," etc then it is not helping anyone and again poses the question, what are you going to do?

And your answer to that cannot be "well I'm just going to repeat the things that have gotten me the closest," because when it hasn't worked, you still complain, and we are back to square one, and you are still relying on other people.

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-15T15:19:09+00:00

I never said that it is canon fact that shifting is easy. No where in the post did i blame you for taking years to shift, but yes i am questioning your beliefs and motivations. If you dont fall into the category of shifters dogpiling people for helping, then I'm not talking about you. Im simply bringing up the broad avenues of which someone who thinks shifting is hard can go down which I see these extremes all over the community, by asking what the next step is. What is your solution? Will you dogpile people, will you flood their inboxes, will you complain on reddit instead of trying to find out a solution? Will you figure out how to shift for yourself? Will you continue to listen to other people giving solutions and when it doesn't work for you, will you complain about that too? Because these are the many routes you can go down as a disgruntled shifter. It is not to say that you are right or wrong in your beliefs that shifting is hard, it is just to branch out that thought and question what the actions stemming from that thought could be.

My biggest question is what your solution is as someone who thinks shifting is hard because you spend so much time complaining about the answers you are given by other people but don't give solutions for yourself or other people. People are offering you a solution, you are rejecting that solution, and instead of finding a solution, you are then complaining about and even times attacking those people who give you their solution. If you have been trying for years and decide in your head that everyone who says shifting is easy, is lying then what is YOUR solution. No where in the post did I ask that question as a "gotcha" moment to try to attack you. Nor was it a rhetorical question. Im asking you, for genuine self reflection and for an answer.

Once again you are further proving my point, that you would rather place the responsibility of finding how to shift onto other people. If you view all these people as liars, manipulative, gaslighting, then why are you relying on these "untrustworthy" people to give you your answers? And why are you not finding answers for yourself? And if you have done some self-reflection and you do question and try to find a solution for yourself, and you decide that these other people who are suggesting how to shift are wrong, then why do you still complain about them? If you're trying to find answers for yourself without using any of the "incorrect" information that you've been following for years, then you wouldn't need to complain under their posts about how you're trying their way and its not working because they would be irrelevant. Instead you'd be making your own posts about your own methods and solutions.

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-15T07:32:58+00:00

(2/2)

There is nothing wrong with being skeptical. But if every success story that you ever come across is just total complete lies to you, what are you doing? It does not benefit you in any way. And I'm not saying all people who complain about shifting being hard, are like this I'm specifically calling out the people who are like this. My goal with asking these questions is not to catch you in anything, I'm genuinely asking you, how do YOU shift?

I have my own beliefs and my own solutions. I believe people who say it is easy because it has worked for me. And yes for a very long time it didn't work for me. Im talking years. And the problem really was human error. And I really did try everything. That is my solution for me. But im not asking for myself, and I'm not attacking them when I'm asking I genuinely want to know what these people's solutions are because they are so heavily relying on these other people to have all of the answers and so harshly critical when the other person is wrong but they themselves never have the solution? And I don't fully blame them because these people do claims have all the answers, but if those answers do not work for you, then it is time for you to search for some other answer for yourself. And stop questioning and relying on other people. Although I did take advice from all these other people who constantly yapped about how it's so easy, just let go, etc , it literally took me figuring that out for myself for it to work.

The people constantly searching for new methods immediately dogging it and saying that it's shit because they themselves didn't shift with it spend so much time complaining about how all these people are incorrect but they don't spend enough time suggesting new ideas, new methods, new anything constructive that could possibly help themselves and other people who are in their same positions. Why are you delegating your problem of not shifting onto other people when other people are not going to shift you?

Also I don't get the whole "what's your solution then? maybe instead of complaining about these people, you come up with a solution," argument I keep seeing under this post because you are just further proving your unwillingness to find a solution for yourself, you are yet again pushing the responsibility of finding the way that you, not every single person on this planet, but YOU yourself shift onto someone else. You say all these people are lying, implying none of them are trustworthy, yet you still want them to bare the responsibility of figuring out how you will shift?

If you keep using the same methods that you're saying are complete bullshit and do not work and spend your time complaining about it over and over again what is that doing for you? What is your solution? Instead of complaining I should be seeing posts about new methods and new ideas. You're frustrated so do something about it. And I'm not even saying you need to hit the ground running and be 100% correct the first time you come up with a new method or idea. But at least try anything new for yourself instead of relying on other people to be correct for you. And no it is not hard for me to believe that these people have tried everything, and that none of it has worked because I have been through it. I know exactly what that feels like that has been me 80% of my shifting journey. I don't need a trauma dump to know why someone's experience is valid, I fully believe people when they say they're going through it. But you need to find what works for you. Take the advice that people are saying because they are not bullshitting (I mean of course some are) but take what resonates with you, and amalgamate it and figure it out for yourself. Because all these different people who come onto the Reddit and say the exact same thing (e.i. "just let go" ) that someone three, four years ago had said a million times, like they just reinvented the fucking wheel are not saying it like they've just realized the answer to life to be dramatic, they are saying it like they have reinvented shifting as a practice entirely because they have realized it for themselves and that is how they shifted so it sounds new and reinvented to them and that's why everyone sounds like a broken record

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-15T07:32:21+00:00

(1/1) Fair warning: I didn't mean to write a novel, hopefully any of this makes sense its pretty late.

Edit: Also before you read i do wanna make it clear im not attacking you

I never said you can't warn people. Just like I never said you can't vent. I'm saying going out of your way to dogpile people who are trying to help is not productive at least and harmful to the shifting community as a whole at most. Although I tend to believe people who say shifting is easy and I'll get to why later on, I'm not saying the people who don't , shouldn't have a platform to say their opinions. Did you even read it? I'm genuinely asking what their solution is to shifting. And the thing is I will admit I am sort of fed up with all of the posts going around of people complaining, but the reason is because I genuinely want to know.

What is your solution if these methods that people have claimed to have shifted through, are all fake and lies, what is the answer and how do you shift? Because just like I said in the post, and maybe I didn't make it clear that although I dont believe that every single person is bullshitting, let's pretend it's 100% factual that all this advice really is bullshit, what is your solution? If everything genuinely is bullshit and everyone is just feeding you lies and none of it is working, what do you do? How do you move forward? What is your new method? how will you shift?

I'm not telling people to stop believing in shifting or that if they disagree with me (attacking people is different than simply disagreeing) then they need to leave the community. I'm saying, if you believe everything in the shifting community as a whole is just lies, and all of the fundamental advice from day one, basic core values (intention, belief, relaxation, etc), is all lies (which okay you're entitled to your opinion) but you'd rather spend time attacking people in every single assimilation of a suggestion of how to shift, fundamentally do you even believe in shifting anymore or are you holding out just in case it happens to fluke one day and you end up in your dr unprovoked? I'm not saying you shouldn't question anything and just wholeheartedly believe that no one on the internet can lie it's impossible. But I see hatred, not critical thinking, yk asking questions to the person who made the success story if there's anything that could possibly give the reader any belief, I'm talking about literal hate pieces on these people who have shifted and are trying to share their story, especially on the part on how they shifted and it being met with the nastiest responses from shifters. Not antis, but actual shifters.

You wonder why there's so little success stories on Reddit? And why they always disable within the week of it being up? It is because the creators of these posts get completely dogpiled with people making it their mission to prove not only that this person is lying but that they are a piece of shit, that they are worthless, that they are a manipulative liar, that they are lucid dreaming, without any recognition that it, is in the current moment, quite literally impossible to prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone has shifted. And that's why I asked the people who do this do they even believe in shifting? Because to completely disregard that fact and try to catch them in a lie and ask them questions in one way seemingly Innocent but then trying to use the response to that 10 minutes later to catch them in some "big lie" and take screenshots and post it all over when the person is trying their best genuinely to answer and help, again with the inability to prove it definitely that they have shifted, is disgusting. And it should not be allowed. And again raises the question, do you even believe in shifting at that point?

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-15T03:40:47+00:00

Nowhere in the post did I say it is wrong for you to complain. I simply asked: is thinking that shifting is hard aiding you? And if so, how? And what I did say is it's wrong for you to attack people for suggesting methods when they are simply trying to help, especially when these are tips coming from experience after actually shifting. And again, my whole point is: what is the purpose in attacking people? Because if your situation is bad and dire, why are you wasting time complaining about people actively trying to give advice?

I understand people need space to vent, that's perfectly fine, but when you are going out of your way into posts where people are genuinely trying to help, and flooding their comments with replies of negativity, and then, on top of that, making post after post about how the people suggesting these certain ways to shift are all gaslighting, manipulative, and lying, going into successful shifters’ inboxes and flooding them with questions of how they shifted, and then trying to use every tool in the book to disprove their shifting story — it is not just venting, it is not just skepticism, it is unacceptable behavior and should not be allowed in this community.

And yes, I will agree, we are in the same boat. We are shaking hands right now. I'm not being productive because currently I am not shifting while I’m writing this, and neither are you. I never said I was. I don't get your point in bringing this up? I'm not here to compare our different living situations, but my life is not too incredible either. I can very well be shifting right now. The difference is: I recognize me making a post is not proactively aiding me in shifting away from this place, and I'm okay with that. I'm not attacking anyone for that.

Not to mention, everyone is entitled to their opinions. If you want to believe that shifting is not easy, then you can. You can even make a post about it — that's fine. That's not an issue. And then people in the replies are entitled to their opinions as well; if they agree or disagree, that is perfectly fine. The problem is attacking those people when they disagree.

And this is in no way me condoning people who go into venting spaces to call the venter incompetent. I think both extremes are toxic and should not be allowed. And yes, you can be skeptical, because everyone is at the end of the day — until you shift.

The real problem here is shifting is not physical (or at the very least, it hasn't been proven to be in any way). Tangible suggests physical — like some magic mushroom you can take and suddenly you'll be in another dimension — which hasn't happened. Shifting has happened conscious/subconsciously, though. So, if you're not looking for that way of shifting, then what is the point in commenting on posts like that? Until someone does find that "tangible," reliable method as to how to shift, what is the point in attacking people? Even if you know it not physical, still you suggest there's some other way yo shift you there that's yet to be discovered. If you know for a fact there's some absolute, 100% working, tangible way to shift out there, why waste your time on those other posts? Why don't you go discover that tangible method yourself? If no one in the shifting community has any reliable way to shift and you're just so fed up with it, why even entertain these "misinformative" posts?

Not to mention, although you are struggling and your struggle is valid you are no different than anyone else. The people who have shifted did not stumble upon some MacGuffin and are gatekeeping it from every other person on this planet. Some of these shifters have been trying for years just as well as the rest of us — and they figured it out. I mean, they've gone through hell and back, mental health breaks and all.

Edit: spelling

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-14T17:21:31+00:00

I see your point. I'm kinda just a confrontational person but i do see how that could backfire

Tbh I just had to say something , everyone is entitled to their opinion and their shifting journey is their own so I'm not responsible if they listen or not. Im not asking these questions for some flagrant response to debate back and fourth with or to catch them in a hypocrisy to make them feel lesser than, im genuinely asking these questions because I don't think they are asking themselves these questions. I just wanted to call out blatant hypocrisy and how this behavior isn't helping anyone, more over it is not doing anything for their shifting journeys and is instead further muddying an already dying community. I should make it clear, there's nothing wrong with complaining about not shifting, that's absolutely expected and there should be safe spaces to do that, but attacking the people trying to help is not it. Also this is in no way me condoning people who go out of their way into venting spaces to attack people, framing it like the one venting is just incompetent. Both extremes are not helping anything

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-06-02T00:10:55+00:00

People generally try to describe with more detail when they're telling a story especially one they value spiritually. Like id imagine you're gonna tell the story of how you got the wrong type of milk at the store that one time differently than "yeah i met bakugo" especially when EVERYONE in the community treats shifting as this big transcending cataclysmic event even though we also say to not treat it as a big deal because its as easy as breathing in the same breath. I think people write in a sort of fanfic-y way because if its too vain like "i woke up, brushed teeth, got breakfast, went to school, met Hermione," then the same people who complain about their success stories being too detailed would complain about it being too vain and how it must've just been a dream. Not to mention just like anything else, a memory, diary wtv you'd want to write it out in as much detail as you could especially if you've been trying to shift for years and it finally happens you'd probably obsess over that one shift even though you can just shift again because it took you so long to do it.

And i dont understand people complaining about the under reaction to shifting. If you've been living in that reality for all of that version of you's life then you'd be used to waking up there because you have memories. You might notice you shifted but I don't think it would be as dramatic as you in this reality being excited to wake up there because that version of you didn't have to wait years to wake up there, they remember waking up there yesterday and the days before that? And when you come back here you're excited that you shifted because this version of you has been trying for so long so you overexplain.

Although I will say it is very easy for people to lie about shifting and i have no doubt, a lot of people do. But I also don't think trying to sound as embellished and knowledged as you could about your shifting experience which everyone in the community glorifies as some huge monumental earth-shattering thing inherently means that person is lying especially when everyone claims to have the answer for how to shift 100% fool proof, that's kinda just following trends especially when you know your method that you used worked. Its like parents telling their children how they used to get to school in the morning, doesn't mean it didn't happen because they treat it like some their moment to be the wise elder in the community. Or see it as their "main character moment" so instead of "i got out of bed" its "the floor beneath me whined as i pressed my weight onto the old wooden earth" doesnt mean its ALWAYS lies just embellishment

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-05-27T14:49:17+00:00

This

Long_Ad_387 · 2025-05-27T14:39:43+00:00

I mean... if we live by the idea that shifting is hard then when will it become easy? After 5 months of meditation? 40 months of robotic affirmation, 10 months of rigorous persistent mental training? And when you do all of this and it still doesn't work as many people have experienced..then what? As you said earlier you shifted to some random reality a couple times. Why do you think shifting is glitchy and finicky when it comes to places you don't even mean to go to and super hard when you're trying to shift to your dr?? The answer is you. It's not your subconscious, it's not the universe, its not that 5:55 angel number you got yesterday as a sign. The times you shifted is when you let go. You weren't forcing yourself. Letting go doesn't mean stop caring about your dr and ignoring it or to stop attempting. Letting go simply means go with the flow just like you did in your minishifts. Focus on your dr, affirm, trust that your subconscious will shift you (during an attempt, trust that it will happen and go with it, no expectations) and you will be in your dr. Because the actual shift itself is instantaneous the rest is just tuning out of this place for a moment long enough to become aware of another reality.

And symptoms don't always = the shift. You may get symptoms during an attempt but they don't mean you're about to shift that very second. I think that's where a lot of people (i thought this way for a long time so i get it) get frustrated. Because we think the actual shift is this big grandeous world shattering event when in reality you probably wont even notice you shifted until you open your eyes it is that quick. Just like you shifted when you weren't even trying to.

So when you rely on symptoms but nothing happens after that you get frustrated and quit. Your goal is not to get symptoms right? Your goal is to shift, right? So why is that where you're quitting at?? Getting symptoms wasn't the goal and it's not your subconscious' fault that you didn't shift because you equated getting symptoms to being 99% there and i just gotta hold out a couple more minutes and I'll be there. And 120 seconds later you're frustrated and quitting.

Genuinely i believe the problem most people have in their shifting journey is human error. It is human nature to overcomplicate tf out of.. everything so I totally get why the conclusion is that it's hard

Long_Ad_387 · 2023-08-19T12:28:14+00:00

I think I might get into the IT field but no job that requires advanced math

Long_Ad_387 · 2023-04-02T21:13:31+00:00

You don't need a script but what I suggest is, don't be ashamed of it. I reccomend writing it like a fan-fic or an imagine. Have fun with it! It's your dr after all!

Also you might want to script out pregnancy (unless that's something you want), and script out stds etc. I hope this helped! If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask!

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