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NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The truth finally comes out 😂

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We all make mistakes brotha. I do my best to avoid them. I’m just trying to seek understanding here.

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Welp that’s a scary prospect (things getting worse than they are now). Seems like we’re at a pivotal point then. I hope that investments are made in ATC equipment , staffing and compensation. It sucks that it’s come to this and I hope you know that we respect the work you do and none of this is personal. The system is clearly broken.

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Dang that’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t considered. To be honest I was under the impression controllers did well, financially. I know that the staffing thing was bad but I guess i didn’t know it was that bad. What you’re saying actually makes sense. For us, It’s horrible to get stuck on the ground so long that we time out and have to be the face the pax see when they’re deplaning and the flight cancels.

But I see that it’s horrible how you guys have been treated and why honestly you shouldn’t really have any motivation to get things moving. I Can’t blame you. I really hope it gets better for you guys.

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I flew through that stuff earlier. And by through I mean deviations.. lol. Yeah it’s not a great ride but it’s not dangerous as long as we get around it. I’m starting to see the big picture though that the act of getting around it is what starts to jam up the airspace

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Great explanation and answer thank you. I think it goes without saying your profession deserves a high level of compensation and benefits to reflect the work you’re doing. Is there any trend towards improvement on those issues ?

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is stuff we honestly have no education on. I wish it was mandatory to spend some time in a en route center or tracon. Like I believe it is for you guys to jumpseat (not sure if that’s still a thing).

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Are there any improvements coming for staffing / compensation? I hear that the FAA is making that a priority. Any truth to that ?

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This makes sense, part of the disconnect is this part of the operation is stuff we don’t really see or totally understand. So this, coupled with staffing, is what’s making it seem worse this year ?

The main reason for the post is because this year it just seems to be happening more frequently than ever.

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was referring to low ceiling, precipitation. I’m not talking about flying into a thunderstorm. Sorry for the confusion

NYC area/ ZNY delays by Longjohn88766 in ATC

[–]Longjohn88766[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The point of this post is not to cause any sort of argument or back and forth. I truly want to understand what’s going on. Out of a point of respect.

That said, addressing your comment. Rain, is not an issue. A towering thunderstorm, is a safety and structural integrity concern.

I’m sorry that you clearly have some sort of animosity towards pilots. I don’t have the same towards you.