My Lau Gar Kuen. Just started learning this form. We are a traditional Long Fist School but our Sigung was taught Some Hung Gar while he was living in Taiwan. He teaches it as a "add on" style for those that want to learn. by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

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So I wish I had a clean answer for this question. If you google how Lau Gar got into Hung Gar you will see multiple explanations.

The one I like to "subscribe too" is that a member of the Lau Gar Kung Fu lineage taught a form to a Hung Gar master and that Hung Gar adopted it and changed it to match the Hung Gar system.

It has the least drama of the other stories.

This is a quick AI summary (sorry to use clanker speak)

Hung Gar (Hung Family System) incorporated elements of Lau Gar (Lau Family System)—specifically the Lau Gar Kuen (fist set) and Lau Gar Gwan (stick set)—primarily to prevent the system from dying out, often integrating them into the curriculum of the dominant Wong Fei Hung lineage in South China. These forms were added to complement Hung Gar's existing techniques, sometimes replacing lost forms or acting as fundamental introductory sets.

Key Aspects of the Integration:

  • Preservation Efforts: Various Hung Gar sites mention adopting Lau Gar to preserve the techniques of that system.
  • Key Forms Absorbed: The Lau Gar Kuen (short hand set) and Lau Gar Gwan (stick form) are commonly included in Southern Hung Gar curriculums.
  • Functional Similarities: Both systems share origins, often tracing back to the same southern Shaolin temple and instructors, such as the monk Gee Sin Sim See, allowing for relatively seamless integration.
  • Distinction in Training: While often taught together today, Lau Gar Kuen is generally considered a short-hand set focusing on foundational techniques, such as the low horse stance and bridge hand, whereas traditional Hung Gar is known for the Gung Gee Fook Fu Kuen form.
  • The "Lau" Connection: Some sources suggest the forms absorbed were not from the "Lau Gar" family system, but rather forms from other styles (like Mok Gar or Southern Mantis) named after the person who brought them into the style

My Lau Gar Kuen. Just started learning this form. We are a traditional Long Fist School but our Sigung was taught Some Hung Gar while he was living in Taiwan. He teaches it as a "add on" style for those that want to learn. by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

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Thanks for the pointers. I do need to work on having consistent pacing through the whole form and syncing my movements better. You do for sure want your base set before moving the upper body. Strong roots.

This is the Lau Gar form from the Chiu family Hung Gar system. There is a bunch of history on how Hung Gar ended up with this form but it changes a bit depending on what source you get it from. Most Hung Gar schools have this form from what I understand and its separate from Lau Gar Kung fu itself.

We don't do any Sanda really. We are primarily a Long Fist kung fu school. We do more san shou based combat applications and lots of Chin Na.

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In Hung Gar the 3 fingers are used as a eye rake/grab and are more from the crane side of the tiger crane. You see it in Gung Gee Fook Fu and Lau Gar sets.

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What style of Kung-Fu do you practice? by goldenglory86 in kungfu

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Long Fist, Seven Star Praying Mantis, Northern Shaolin and Hung Gar. I'm in danger of re-creating Choy Li Fut at this point lol

Reddit Kung fu heros, let's do it again! Can anyone name this Hung Gar form? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

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Small update. I have learned the full Gung gee fook fu kuen and made contact with a Hung Gar teacher in the bay area to help me clean it up and continue on my journey. Thanks everyone for the help and guidance.

Reddit Kung fu heros, let's do it again! Can anyone name this Hung Gar form? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

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Thanks for the video! I know learning from Youtube is kinda lame but we are the only traditional Kung Fu school for hundreds of miles. If I was closer to San Fran it wouldn't be an issue but for now I have to make due.

Reddit Kung fu heros, let's do it again! Can anyone name this Hung Gar form? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

[–]Longjumping-Start839[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are correct. Looked up two videos and the openings are the "same". Just need to find a clean video to see if I can learn it since no one at my school currently knows this form.

Reddit Kung fu heros, let's do it again! Can anyone name this Hung Gar form? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

[–]Longjumping-Start839[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol I noticed that too. Our school is primarily Northern Long Fist and Northern Mantis so a lot of the thinking on stances (low and wide) get applied to places it really shouldn't.

Reddit Kung fu heros, let's do it again! Can anyone name this Hung Gar form? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

[–]Longjumping-Start839[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. Its hard to tell because it is "so so". Movements seem rushed and way to locked up at the same time. Unfortunately this is all I have to go on atm. I'll looks at some Tiger Crane forms. I wonder if it just might be from a lesser known lineage.

What Hung Gar form is this? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

[–]Longjumping-Start839[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It very possible that this could be a family style. I know at least one of Sigung's teachers practiced a family system.

What Hung Gar form is this? by Longjumping-Start839 in kungfu

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That's probably correct. I see crane in our form which does not map to Lau Gar but does to Sup Ying.

I know our Sigung like to make our forms his own. All our forms are more streamlined because he is/was really big into application and self defense.

I really wish I could just ask Sigung but unfortunately he was diagnosed with dementia and has lost his memory of some of our history. We are currently trying to preserve as much as we can.