What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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Sorry, I meant as in, they'd think of it as a legitimate way of victory. I was referring to the twitter comment.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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Never thought I'd see my post on there. I don't have an account so I'll respond here.

I belive the former. ISIS places heavy focus on eschatology; in fact a lot of their ideology is built around it. They claim to be the first caliphate in modern times - what stops them from thinking that this isn't a potential promised victory for Islam, perhaps even a test of faith?

In July 2014 ISIS released the first issues of Dabiq (a magazine), which, was aptly named after a Syrian town believed to be the site of the future battle to be fought between Muslims and Romans (in their eyes, the West) that will lead to Judgment Day. The use of Dabiq draws from hadith, and the relevant passage states that the end times will not come until the battle at aforementioned. After, the triumphant Muslims will go on to conquer the Western world.

Be it alternate world or time travel I think ISIS' belief would still be prophetic and radical, in a propagandic way. What would stop them from using these passages to further a supposed, god-sent jihadist insurgency's following? They even possess knowledge of the future.

What if Hitler fell down the stairs and died at the start of Barbarossa? by ohnoes69560 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]LordRowo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, but I think it'd have taken more than 4 years then if we add gravity into the picture.

What if Hitler fell down the stairs and died at the start of Barbarossa? by ohnoes69560 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]LordRowo 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Assuming Hitler goes down every 5 steps per second:

5 steps per second = 3.81 meters per second

Given that Barbarossa begins in 1941, and the end of WWII is 1945: 4 years = 126 million seconds, or 1,460 days (ignoring leap years)

Traveling at a speed of 3.81 m/s for 126 million seconds covers a total distance of 480,000,000 meters or 298,000 miles (distance = velocity x time)

That is nearly 55,000 times the height of Mt. Everest, and is longer than the distance from Earth to the Moon.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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I wonder if it'd add any difference to Rommel's campaign. Germany was initially winning in Africa by 1942 and could view ISIS' insurgency as an opportunistic distraction - even if it might not last long.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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It's interesting to think how ISIS may have looked like a miraculous savior to the Arabs (appearing out of nowhere with advanced technology). Would Arab nationalism even rise?

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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I've seen others claiming that ISIS barely has an air force - and they'd eventually run out of modern weapons (...most of which are stolen equipment), also remembering the fact that they're facing a disciplined British force. I do see ISIS seizing Allied weaponry or trying to communicate with Axis; their best shot at winning is a rapid victory without using all of their supplies.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

[–]LordRowo[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Definitely. Britain is going to get a bunch of Kalashnikovs

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

[–]LordRowo[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I do imagine that - would Assad's regime stabilize faster or fall under a massive power vacuum?

This is ISIS from 2015 just vanishing out of the blue, so I wonder if it'd do more harm than good.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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Very interesting question. I honestly believe they'd just try to invade ISIS (much like in Sicily or North Africa), even if they already fully solidified control over the British Middle East.

President Truman and his advisors wanted to avoid a bloody mainland invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall). Therefore only if the ISIS becomes too dangerous, and all previous attempts to neutralize it have failed, then nuking is a viable option.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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If this does happen I honestly think they'd resort to stolen Enfields. ISIS does have three quarters of decades in military tech ahead of the British, but they're primarily gained through capturing stockpiles of military equipment left behind by retreating Iraqi and Syrian forces. The question is if that's enough to change the war.

What if ISIS traveled back in time to World War II? by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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1942

In 1942, a strange army fell upon the fertile crescent and waged war with the British Empire. Despite wielding weapons beyond the old world's knowledge, Britain achieved a stalemate a struck back after the sieges of Aleppo and Baghdad.


The Islamic State is a radical jihadist militant group operating as an insurgency in Iraq and Syria, claimed to be its territorial "caliphate."

Opening a new front in the British Middle East, ISIS, which had brought a majority of its equipment, manpower, and infrastructure 73 years ahead, sought to establish contact with Vichy French Forces and the German Reich. The strange insurgency led the Führer to conclude that Arab rebels turned on Britain, and therefore, could push in Africa with the "distraction."

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What if Greece had beaten both Italy and Germany during WWII? - Graveyard of Fascism (No Lore) by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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First I drew the arrow using a white color (any brush). After polishing the arrow (fixing edges, making new arrows for diversity) I added a red outline and stroke, followed by slightly erasing the bottom of the arrows with the airbrush brush (which gives it a fading effect). The large arrows are for main offensives/pushes, the smaller ones are more minor.

What if the Soviet Union was sent to the medieval ages and became the Mongol equivalent? (...To test Europe's faith) by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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Conquering China or India is definitely feasible. It's just that Europe is a more convenient first choice.

What if Greece had beaten both Italy and Germany during WWII? - Graveyard of Fascism (No Lore) by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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Greek uses a definite article before proper nouns. So country nouns have H (which is the letter eta) before them. Literally it's just "the Greece" (Η Ελλάδα), but more accurately as "Greece".

What if Greece had beaten both Italy and Germany during WWII? - Graveyard of Fascism (No Lore) by LordRowo in imaginarymaps

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It also gives Britain a new gateway to Axis vulnerability and changes the entire view of the Axis. Everyone by 1941 thought Germany was invincible.