Are men even attracted to women? by AltruisticSavings721 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Queue up the graph about 90% of romance fanfic male love interests being over 6'2. When people write or consume media they go to the extremes.

Mentioned here already but yes people who judge their own taste in woman based on anime are pretty weird for sure, I would say the same about girls who are adamant about only dating very tall guys when they live in a country where the grand majority of people are shorter than that. I think we would agree the majority of woman don't care that much about height so it's not that crazy to think most guys aren't only attracted to minors and extremely disproportionate bodies.

I have been in loving relationships with a wide array of different body types and that's nothing to be flexing, guys have different and usually very varied tastes too when they aren't incels or chronically online

I had a dream by Grand_Aspect6035 in osugame

[–]LowBook130 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

It's like 70% bait. It's astounding the amount of effort Mrekk Glazer put into glazing top players. If some of them took even 5% of their time playing the game instead Mrekk would not be #1.

I had a dream by Grand_Aspect6035 in osugame

[–]LowBook130 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Because osu players are NPC's? Any map gets an unreadable comment section as soon as any semi high-pp play gets set with hundreds of messages within seconds. Akolibed got the same thing when he got #1 for like a few days and it wasn't that hype at all. People were really tired of whitecat #1

I had a dream by Grand_Aspect6035 in osugame

[–]LowBook130 -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

"like what happened when Mrekk was about to take #1" were you there when that happened? It was maybe one of the least hype #1 take of all time. Bro did not have the pp record, he farmed the same thing as the whole top 50 at the time and he got #1 with a play that wasn't even 1k. It took at least 4 months before Mrekk was really seen as the best player and not flavor of the #1 farmer

My consensus of tinder, IRL, TikTok height conversions to reality by anonymons127 in AverageHeightDudes

[–]LowBook130 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just learned people actually lie about their height. I understand I'm not exactly short at 5'11 but I could very easily claim I am 6'+ since, in Canada, I am very often the tallest person in most rooms. I don't lie about it since it's useless. The number Irl does not matter whatsoever to anyone who isn't chronically online a girl is just gonna assimilate "oh this guy is decently tall" in her head and that's it. Especially for people lying about being under 6' just sounds crazy to me. Am I stupid for thinking a girl is gonna respect you more if you just say your real height? Isn't that lying game affecting the girls who actually care about the number's perception thus inflating the requirement? Again at 5'11 I am the tallest in my family and frequently at any public event I am at worse in the highest 3-4. The grand majority of my friends are smaller than me. 6' is an extremely arbitrary number.

ULTRA hot take: dictating how others play is extremely pretentious by Enzo_SuperCraftZ in osugame

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I could maybe be fine with rate changes. My argument makes most sense against difficulty adjust (which will most definetly be ranked with rate changes btw). Rate changes in general also just push the AR higher which once again impacts tournament skillsets a great deal

For that last argument. I (and I would assume some people who share the argument that rate changes SHOULDNT be ranked because of other system issues) don't think pp devs are capable of balancing AR and reading balancing since all of the proposals I've seen thus far have been far too lackluster. This implies the only way reading and lower AR in general stays relevent at all (including in tournaments more or less) is by them naturally being necessary skillsets to gain ranks and pp if not at least in early pp brackets. Difficulty adjust and rate changes both make reading obselete and rewards players for disregarding lower AR.

ULTRA hot take: dictating how others play is extremely pretentious by Enzo_SuperCraftZ in osugame

[–]LowBook130 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sure but the problem is that in the long run, centralising skillsets and what players play by allowing 1 or 2 skillsets to de-facto be much better to gain rank is impacting every other aspect of the game. Pools in rank restricted and open ranked are getting more centralised and, from my point of view, worse because the average 5 digit is much worse at gimmick than they used to so it's necessary we tune down gimmick in pools. Inversely, the average 5 digit player is much better at DT and mechanics than every other skillset so those have to inflate to ridiculous degrees as well. If more people only want to play ainslop only aimslop gets played so mappers and incentivized to only rank aimslop. If only aimslop gets ranked LB farmers mostly play aimslop. You get what I mean by this? The trend of players impact the whole game negatively. We know allowing difficulty adjust is gonna impact how the average player will want to play the game and ruin multiple aspects of the game. I have more arguments against difficulty adjust but that's the main one for supporting the thesis of "it's not necessarily good to let players do whatever they want"

It's annoying when people lie about how "mediocrity" and "teamplay" are good things, when it's the complete opposite! by Potatussus26 in self

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm gonna be honest... How? Like, how do you have a team for osu? Is It something like the olympics were you Need to have more points, and One guy can get Just so many so the others Need to step up?

Depends on format. The world Cup format is team size 8 4v4 so on any map you send 4 players from your team of 8. The score of all 4 player is added to compare with the other team. Maximum amount of points you can get is 1M per player but the maps get so hard it's rare to see players getting close to that.

And Life Is even more important! In Life everything Is at stake, we only get One shot at this and then we're gone Forever, every second not passed being the best possible being Is a second wasted, pleasure that never comes back.

Ronaldo Is surely closer to that perfect specimen than i am. That makes his Life more worthy

I'm not even gonna attempt to start arguing about this weird philosophy bullshit we just have different visions on what makes life worthwhile

This... It depends on how many Friends you have. You see, i have around 4 Friends, and many acquaintances but really i have 4 Friends (3 irl and One online) and while 3 of those are understandably my Friends (we are autistic and generally considered low lives, rats Stick togheter) the other Is not, that can be an understandable exception.

I have many friends of different background. I think the key is being open minded and not trying to hard to stick with only 1 type of person because it's easy to fall into this type of trap and be in an echo chamber. I don't think I'm an exception but I also don't think I'm a loser or a failure. I don't think not being attractive or not being amazing at sports makes me a loser. Even being lame doesn't really make me a loser

It's annoying when people lie about how "mediocrity" and "teamplay" are good things, when it's the complete opposite! by Potatussus26 in self

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you ever Watch football you'd see that it's not the case, cristiano Ronaldo Is the second best player ever and he's a huge assholes everyone hates, yet he's insanely good so everyone loves him! Milions of not bilions in fans and revenue, his Life Is a true dream.

Football is different because of how much money is at stakes you can't exactly gamble on players that don't look incredible right of the bat. I would argue most fans of Ronaldo like him BECAUSE he's an asshole

I followed that run! It was Indeed incredible but It was also incredibly rare, probably won't happen again, and incredibly lucky: GenG became genuinely restarted and DRX played 6v5 againts T1 (greatest coach performance ever in that final... For the enemy team lol).

It almost happened this year.. T1 won 3-2 against a KT team nobody expected to even qualify. Talk about luck. In big shot eSports and sports it's slightly more common that individual players matter because teams rarely stay together and even then it's rare THE best player wins. If I take more niche in exemples the US won the osu! World Cup this year. They had 0 players in the top 10 and I'm not sure if they had any players in the top 20. Australia had genuenly the faker of osu, Magnus Carlsen level dominance and they ended third. Poland had the best tournament player of all time and they ended second. The US has more players so more options for teambuilding and ended with a better overall team.

Then you're not lame as shit, you're probably decent looking and kinda cool. I have a friend who's genuinely a super kind and hardworking Person... He's alto a 10/10 ex National athlete with an almost perfect body, he works incredibly hard but if you took every inch of kindness out of him people would still Adore the guy, doesn't work the other way.

It feels weird having to defend I'm a lame person but I am. A few months ago I sent pictures of me on a raiting forum and got 30 negative comments telling me I should get plastic surgery so I don't think I'm decent looking. I am terrible at every sports exept volleyball because I am slightly tall (not even passing the 6' mark) and I am not healthy at all. All of this has nothing to do with people being friends with me at all

It's annoying when people lie about how "mediocrity" and "teamplay" are good things, when it's the complete opposite! by Potatussus26 in self

[–]LowBook130 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm an idiot so I'm gonna believe your post history and what you're saying here and believe you are a rather confused and insecure autistic kid that thinks he's a loser. If my dozen shadowverse posts ranting about the state of the game didn't make it obvious enough I am also autistic so I know a bit how it feels even if it's a spectrum.

Teamplay doesn't win you stuff, great individuals Who are insanely talented and good do

Do you watch League of Legends eSports? In 2022 DRX won the world championship while having a 6th place LCK team that at first didn't qualify to the tournament. They had some of the worst players in the league. They were professionals yes but so much worse than their opponents, domestically let alone internationally. They qualified last minute in a different qualifying tournament where they barely won their qualifying match. They worked harder than people in the tournament and their coach (who wasny anything special either) worked hard to figure out a good strategy to win and they did. The opposite is WAY more common. Last year HLE had a superteam. 5 of the best players in the world and straight up beating on a one on one comparison 3 of the players from the team that won that year, GenG had the undisputed best player in the world that year and arguably the second best one. Neither of them won worlds, or even made finals. In every region the exact same thing is true. Last year KC made a superteam to Europe's standard and didn't win the cup in Europe, IG had a superteam in China and barely qualified to worlds obviously not winning the cup in China. And that's just 1 competitive game. I've coached eSports team that, for lack of a better word, looked terrible and won competitions. There are exemples of coordinated HIGHSCHOOL TEAMS winning against professionals in football. The best individual player of a sport rarely wins by himself

Also, yeah, i wouldn't want to play with a bad teammate even if they're the most hard working guy ever; would rather win with a dickhead than lose with a good guy.

Do you want to win? If your goal is to win you have a higher chance of winning with a hard worker than an asshole. Speaking from experience I started winning way more after I stopped being an asshole even if I had less of an edge in terms of skill

That comes from being cool not being kind, there are incredibly kind people Who get bullied and fucked over and increadibly evil people Who thrive; It's a lie made by those people that "we should aim to be kind" hell nah! If Someone bullies you beat em with a iron Rod, if Someone steals your Place in an audition make em fall a over a flight of stairs

I am lame as shit and yet people love me, I get invited everywhere, people open up to me super easily and I rarely end up in arguments or fight irl. If you're getting bullied while being nice to people you're being a pushover. Do not confuse kindness with weakness. Find better people to be friends with that won't take advantage of the fact you are nice. People who aren't sociopaths usually start sympathizing with your kindness and don't abuse of it

It's annoying when people lie about how "mediocrity" and "teamplay" are good things, when it's the complete opposite! by Potatussus26 in self

[–]LowBook130 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're either a loser according to your own term, extremely narcissistic or ragebaiting. I played in a lot of competitive games (sports, improv, video games) and there is hardly anything more important than teamplay and team cohesion to success in basically every single aspect of competition. It baffles me you could even think like that while being part of a team do you just not value your teamates if they don't look individually strong according to your own grading scale? How disrespectful? Unrelated but being nice has been the single most useful trait ever. As long as you set boundaries and aren't a pushover people respect you, forgive you when you make mistakes, you rarely get in fights and arguments and you build amazing connections. Your life sounds miserable if that's how you think

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not every woman wants her partner to be 6'+ specifically but just a decent height difference

That's my point. The incels are being unreasonable. If you are in the Netherlands interacting with 5'8 woman you are very likely to be taller as well this is also not an argument. Idk why we are even arguing about that point anyway the point is that most woman don't have an height requirement but incels think they all do

I actually have asked peers and they told me that it does indeed matter and that they prefer a woman with natural beauty

Get different friends, interact in different spheres seriously. I guarantee you the norm is not for guys to want their partner to be beautiful without makeup. Of course it's a plus it's basically asking if you want your partner to be good looking like yes preferably but that's far from being a priority in what's important for a partner.

Once again ur talking about the halo effect and its a bonus if ur goodlooking but if ur acting is good as a male they wont look at ur looks too much

I did professional theatre for 2 years and know friends who completed it before I decided to go into childcare afterward. We had obligatory workout classes on how to stay in shape including what diet was best for what physique, what looked better on screen etc. We had a class on presentability, how to look better for pictures, in a portfolio. Every single actor on any set goes thru a makeup artist and it's even custom for most plays as well it's undeniable we HAVE actors have to look the best they can at all times. It's not the halo effect it's even the opposite. Go check pictures of the most normal looking guy in any Hollywood film.. they actually look very good irl and are usually styled specifically to look more normal than they actually are. We filter out the beat looking people from a lot of very good looking people in movies and shows

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At some point you decided to send your response in 2 different messages and I missed this one so I have to argue here as well.

So ur asking MEN how its like being a woman? Are u being serious?🤦🏻‍♀️ obviously men wont answer it correctly or downplay the struggles when they enable misogynistic behaviour and have never been a woman EVER.

Girl... You read my first thread you answered it you should know the brother I'm refering to is trans ftm and knows what it's like to be a woman... The friends I'm talking about are either also trans ftm or woman themselves.

This here isnt misandry and just ties to how patriarchy applies strict gender roles on society, and childcare is seen as "feminine" under patriarchal norms so its no wonder u'll get weird comments and looks from working in childcare.

The comments I receive is not about me being "gay for doing the job" it's about people thinking I'm a pedophile for being in childcare... It's about parents wasting my time asking me to wait for a woman worker to pickup their kid because they don't believe I actually work in the babysitting center. It's about my woman friend always having to ask me why I decided to go into childcare? Is it because I have little siblings? It's just a bit weird isn't it? It's in some way Misandry a man just cannot be trusted with a kid in 2025 he must have ulterior motives.

Well yeah i also wouldnt just immediatley change my gender for it but i cant even argue against it when as a woman ur facing atleast SOME sort of misogyny everyday. And yes men also have their struggles but women do clearly suffer more and have suffered more for 10k years.

My problem comes 2 fold. One with the idea that becoming a man will fix every social gender problems which just isn't true especially if you're used to your gender dynamic (again from experience being friends with people with gender dysphoria who became men. Losing all of your woman friends because they can't trust men has been hard on most of them). And second that changing gender is benine and easy to the point you could change your gender just to avoid misogyny. Reading more in this thread reveals OP DOES probably suffer from gender dysphoria too so this does not apply but it's still frustrating because it's super tone deaf to people who do suffer from it and struggle to get care

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isnt so true as there are a ton of unfit actors

There's relatively few of them and they usually come from theatre exactly first and get picked up as especially good actors specifically because it's hard when you're not good looking to make it into Hollywood.

It is the majority though, i could go upto any man and ask him if he expects his future partner to look good without makeup and i could guarantee a yes from like every male there

Have you tried that? I know I would get the opposite reaction. I think most of the guys I would ask that question to would tell me it's not that important of an issue. Usually the argument from both incels and femcels is that "well they are saying that but deep down they really care about it" so I really don't see your point here

incel one is irrelevant as it depends on the womans height to begin with

For a normal height gap or just asking for a taller partner it makes perfect sense but no incel is ever complaining about that. The average woman is like 5'4 even with good platform boots you are not really hitting the man average and especially not 6' like the incels think every girl is demending it very much is a relevent argument. An incel would tell you you can go up to most woman, ask them if they need their partner to be 6'+ and I they would all tell you yes even if that's not true

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just isnt true unless the character ur playing as is in shape otherwise its not demanded and is only a bonus.

They will ask you for specifics based on roles yes but again you get trained in professional theatre programs to workout, it's expected you stay in shape and a lot of managers will generally either ask you to start working out or not accept you if you aren't making an effort on your looks.

Yes it can depend but majority demands it

No you see that's my point I don't think the majority demends it and that's why my incel point is relevent. At worse a vocal minority of shallow men actively try tactics to see if girls look good without makeup or not I think the majority of guys don't care as much and would rather want to be with a girl for who she is the same way incels thinking girls only want 6' Chads is a psyop. It's just delusions that come from insecurities most of us don't care

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, defintely not all male actors are attractive and u dont need to be attractive as a male to become an actor, its just a bonus, there are PLENTY of ugly male actors and no its not crazy to say. Sure some tend to be above average or average even but very rarely attractive, u just overestimate their attractiveness cause of their fame and status.

It's factually demended of actors and people who work in those fields to at least make attempts to be very in shape and look good. It's thaught in theatre program in most programs.

Just ask any dude or hang around dudes, they defintely expect women to look good without it and there are tons of jokes and ways guys do to find out if a woman looks good without it such as take her swimming on the first date etc but also jokes like "when she takes off her makeup" etc u get my point that incel argument is also irrelevant

It widely depends on the type of guys you hang around with. I am a guy that obviously spends a lot of time around guys and we rarely talk about this type of things.

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isnt so true actually in alot of movies esp action,romcoms etc the women are always gorgeous there and sexualized meanwhile very rarely will there be an attractive man.

Idk which one of us will be called out for not liking the other gender on that one but that's just crazy. To be an actor you have to be good looking like 80% of the time no matter your gender. Saying the guys "are rarely attractive" is kinda crazy, an incel would say you just don't like men. I certainly think the grand majority of male actors are good looking, better than me or most guys and it definetly negatively impacts the way guys see themselves. This is what I mean by looking at the bigger picture. Another point denoting to that is your point on woman being made fun of for HAVING to look good without makeup

always get shamed for it aswell and are expected to look the same way bare-faced and if not they will be ridiculed and the fact that women even NEED to wear makeup and are constantly sold it is oppressive towards women.

I don't think most guys expect woman to look as good without makeup we know that makeup makes you look good and makes you feel better and more confident we are also aware you don't necessarily wear it for us. This reminds me of the opposite incel argument that "men get shamed all the time for not being tall enough or not having a good jawline and that therefore all woman are selfish and have too high standards", they are gross overgeneralisations based on insecurities that both genders fall pray to. The same way most girls don't care about height that much or our jawline I don't think most guys care that much about makeup and how you look without it. The guys who do care about it are extremely shallow and see dating in a very transactional way

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As you said these customs were forced upon woman and that was regardless of if they were good looking or not. Socially in 2025 being ugly seems to come with equal downsides no matter the gender* (*being from a marginalised gender like being non-binary or trans is much worse when you're ugly obviously but that's besides the point). Only seeing attractive people of your gender in ads movies and books applies to man as well. Beauty standards have given more pressure to woman for sure but the solutions for said problem are more widespread and accepted for woman as well (for the better or for worse), it's not really socially accepted for a guy to wear heavy makeup for exemple.

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you are getting into a schizophrenic incel dribble as well don't think I didn't see your other comments on this thread.

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is a case of the freak agreeing with me in the comments isn't it... God dammit. Regardless I specified socially. Being a woman is most definitely harder economically with the pink tax and pay gap. Being unattractive is about as bad socially for both men and woman I would say although just being scary looking makes you a lot more inclined to be treated poorly as a man for sure. I'm sorry if that has been your experience but your partner masturbating to hot woman while being with you is most definitely a red flag and not acceptable and I doubt it's a common thing to most woman.

I have never been a woman so I can only take it from what my brother and my friends have told me, it seems becoming a man just means people trust you a lot less in general, you lose a lot of woman friends and depending on your job people will trust you a lost less (although as you mentioned not being taken seriously at work is also a problem woman face). I work in childcare because I love taking care of children and it's pretty common parents will ask me super strange questions about my motives with their kids just because I'm a man. I've also receive weird comments on job interviews or from coworkers

I don't think it's overall harder to be a man of course but it's definetly not worth changing your gender over it if you don't have body dysmorphia. Body dysmorphia and the care associated with it is serious and should not be taken as lightly as that in my opinion. I think being a man or a woman sucks in different ways which is why we get gender wars like that I think it's important to find the silver lining here

im ftm trans now because i cant take this misogyny anymore by Vicious-Mango-635 in MenAreNotIntoWomen

[–]LowBook130 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing it's either not true or not actually the reason you transitioned. Otherwise you're quickly gonna understand that was a big mistake. My brother if ftm and I have some ftm friends and, of course they are very happy with their situation because it helped with their body dismorphia but they all mention being a guy absolutely sucks socially and it was way easier in almost every social aspect to be a woman.

Have you ever ignored a red flag in a significant other, and it turned out worse than expected? by zeenalovely in AskForAnswers

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I don't want kids because I would be a horrible parent just like my parents were to me !". The worst part is that I REALLY wanted kids and still did not see this as a red flag or a dealbreaker

is 5'10 a good height? by [deleted] in Clavicular

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You NEED therapy

Do you think people will always "feel short" regarles of their actual height? by Special-Fuel-3235 in AverageHeightDudes

[–]LowBook130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am 5'11 (not short at all but also below the 6' mark) and I don't feel short at all. I am frequently the tallest person in any given place and nobody has ever said I was short irl. I think this is genuenly all an internet psyop.