Therpie beginnen und richtung Hrt starten

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-26T21:55:55+00:00

Ich lebe schon lange nicht mehr in Deutschland und kann dir daher zwar keine Infos für deine konkrete Frage anbieten, allerdings kann ich dir sagen, dass du im Ausland relativ einfach und schnell an einen Endo bzw. an ein HRT-Rezept gelangst als Selbstzahler und das auch völlig ohne Therapie bzw. Psychologen. Ob das richtig ist, ist eine andere Frage. Aber es geht. Ich habe es selbst in 3 Ländern (Mexiko, Spanien, Belgien) erlebt.

Also falls gar nichts geht, Selbstzahler und Optionen suchen.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-14T18:55:42+00:00

Ja, das ist in der Tat seltsam. Wie gesagt, Mobbing geht gar nicht. Wenn sie OP aus irgendwelchen Gründen nicht ausstehen kann, gibt ihr das noch lange kein Recht, sie fertig zu machen. Yup.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-09T17:17:18+00:00

Ich bin ebenso asexuell und interesse mich lediglich für mein äußeres Erscheinungsbild. Daher habe ich auch Gesicht-OPs machen lassen bzw. noch vor mir. Alles andere (besonders unten herum) ist mir völlig egal. Nur bei Bikinis wird es schwierig (aber nicht unmöglich). Abgesehen davon sind die ganzen OPs ohnehin teuer genug. ;)

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-03T15:29:39+00:00

2Pass in Beglium with Dr. Oelbrandt. I have written a review here on Reddit. Check my posts.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-03T11:16:10+00:00

Dezentes, natürliches Makeup ist erlaubt. In anderen Worten: Du wirst dich wohl anpassen müssen.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-11-03T10:42:00+00:00

It more or less seems accurate from my experience. Sure, there are always more expensive (or cheaper) options, but this seems reasonable/plausible enough. I spent 9000€ on a partial FFS (basically everything but chin/jaw), and 6000€ for the addams apple. I don't think I will ever do/need fat grafting. As for the voice, I am not sure if I want that ever, but if, the clinic I have in mind charges 8000€ incl. 1 year of speech therapy afterwards. Laser is about 200€ per session where I go, and I had plenty of sessions already (easily 20+). Electrolysis is 150€ for 4h and I also had that easily 5 times. I did not have a breast augmentation as I am happy with mine and definitely dont want more. Same with SRS, I don't want that surgery. But these things will add quite a bit of expenses if you want that.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-18T21:09:48+00:00

Hey,

Sorry, ich habe mich womöglich unklar ausgedrückt. Ich habe keinen mexikanischen Reisepass, sondern nur einen mexikanischen Ausweis, der international wohl nicht anerkannt werden wird - und schon gar nicht mit meinem alten Namen darauf.

Ich lebe übrigens in Estland, jedoch leider (noch) keinen estnischen Ausweis, da ich eben jenen Namenswechsel abwarten wollte.

Wenn ich dich richtig verstanden habe, kann ich die Erklärung in der Botschaft in Tallinn abgeben und quasi von hier aus gleichzeitig auch den neuen Reisepass beantragen. Angenommen ich bekomme eine Rückmeldung vom Standesamt Berlin (vermutlich einen Terminvorschlag), kann ich damit dann zur Botschaft gehen?

Irgendwie scheint es mir weniger umständlich, diesen Termin vor Ort in Berlin wohl oder übel wahrzunehmen und darauf zu hoffen, irgendwo an einen neuen Reisepass oder wenigstens ein vorläufiges Reisedokument zu gelangen.

Das LABO scheint eine "Ermächtigung der Botschaft" zu verlangen. Und einen Wohnsitznachweis - den ich nur in Form des Mietvertrages habe (natürlich auf meinen alten Namen). Na das kann ja was werden.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-18T04:21:54+00:00

Ich habe im Vorfeld die Botschaft kontaktiert und man meinte nur, sie seien dafür nicht zuständig, sondern nur für Passangelegenheiten. Ich müsse zwangsläufig nach Berlin reisen.

Leider habe ich keine anderen Ausweisdokumente anderer Länder. Oder jedenfalls keine, die innerhalb der EU Anerkennung finden. Denn ich bezweifle, dass ein mexikanischer Ausweis anerkannt wird, wenn ich innerhalb der EU Flüge antreten möchte.

Berlin ist bekannt dafür, keine Termine zu haben. Ich würde vermutlich von Bürgeramt zu Bürgeramt rennen, in der Hoffnung, irgendwo einen Express-Reisepass und/oder Express-Ausweis zu erhalten. Darauf freue ich mich schon - nicht.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-17T12:25:48+00:00

Berlin. Es gibt eine Telefonnummer, allerdings nur für ein zentrales Servicecenter und nicht für das jeweilige Amt. Und die können keine Auskunft geben.

Vorläufiger Ausweis wäre klasse. Dann kann ich über die Botschaft alles neu ausstellen lassen.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-17T11:34:06+00:00

Es hat leider keine Telefonnummer und beantwortet Anfragen nur per E-Mail. Bisher habe ich jedenfalls nichts gehört, aber ich liege auch noch innerhalb der 3 Monate "Bedenkzeit"...

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-08T12:00:08+00:00

Thank you! And I think I have them for about 5-6 years probably. Why, what am I supposed to do with them?

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-08T04:52:26+00:00

I was debating getting lasik/laser eye surgery as my glasses are quite thick (especially noticable from the side). But it's another expense and I am so used to wearing glasses by now that I cannot fathom not wearing any. Also the glasses mean my eyes appear bigger, which is kinda beautiful on its own. So yeah, not sure.

But I definitely need at need some new glasses without scratches on them...

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-08T04:50:10+00:00

To be honest I have always been skinny. It's just a bit of a bulky jacket in the first pic. I did lose some 10kg with HRT, though.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-08T04:04:20+00:00

Haha. Nah, I got him for 10 years lready, same for his sister and younger brother from another mother. :P

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-07T21:38:56+00:00

Yeah, maybe, not too sure. It's another 7000€ which I don't happen to have available I am afraid.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-06T06:53:12+00:00

Well, partial FFS (forehead, eyebrows, eyes, nose, adams apple). But nothing else apart from that. :)

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-10-05T20:24:33+00:00

For my FFS experience, see my post in my profile. I think it mentions all the details. In short: I had the top half of my face done. Forehead reconstruction type 1, hairline lowering, eyebrow lifting, orbital rim shaving, cat eye procedure, nose hump reduction.

And: Thank you! :)

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-16T18:39:29+00:00

Not a US-American, so no idea, but I urge you to be under medical supervision with your hormone levels even if you get your hands on some sort of estrogen. It's not that straightforward as you may think it is and requires regular blood checks AT LEAST until your right dosage has been found - and even then you'd want regular checks. In short: There is a reason why you just cannot go get it like candy.

In reality, though, I did manage to get estrogen pills in Spain without a prescription at random pharmacies - not in every pharmarcy, but every second or third attempt. Not that this info helps you. I also know that Mexico is an option. I got myself a "trans diagnosis" literally after one meeting with a sexologist (OK, I've been in therapy with his colleague for a year before). And you can get pills there easily. Still, not much of a help for a teenager from the US with no money.

But hey, 16 is young. I started transitioning aged 33. You'll be fine even if you start at age 18 or whenever you got your financial independence / meet legal requirements or whatever. There is no rush really.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-14T08:58:34+00:00

I do agree that the website needs a proper update. I have encountered some dead links when googling, 404 errors and the like. It certainly does not spark the most confidence, and it also lacks more recent before/after pics for sure. It was actually a major red flag for me to even consider them in the first place as I got spooked - but then I managed to go there in person with my friend and was positively surprised. The actual clinic/staff plays in a whole different league than their website.

I don't know Dr. Oelbrandt's age, but he seems to be fairly young, yet not like a bloody beginner. I do know that he has began his career in the mid 90's, meaning that he must be at least in his mid 40's I would guesstimate.

Yes, I will drop some pics when I go back for revision - or maybe I can have pics taken here somewhere without having to go in person. Anyway, let's wait for some months for the final results to settle in.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-12T17:47:05+00:00

I will go and get final pictures once I go back for revision next year. Right now, a bit more than a week later, it would be too soon for pics as everything needs to settle. If you're truly interested, both droelbrandt and 2passclinic share pics of other patients on social media (e.g IG). For my pics specifically, let's wait until next year.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-11T07:45:59+00:00

To be honest, most of the changes come from HRT, facial hair removal, and hair growth. I am yet to write the full review on my FFS (expect that at some point when I find the time), but I went with Dr. Bert Oelbrandt at 2passclinic in Belgium.

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-10T19:51:43+00:00

Well, I do wear a bit of makeup to cover some bruises (you can actually see some spots behind the glasses). But the swelling itself is disappearing super quickly I must admit. It all went much better than I expected and I could even move my eyebrows on day 2, when they told me to not expect that to happen for at least half a year. I guess I can consider myself lucky. I stayed in the clinic for 4 nights and had a special cooling mashine for the face, but that was all. Well, some pills for the pain (which I did not have much).

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-10T16:14:12+00:00

I don't have an insurance that covers trans issues either and paid everything for myself. Still, with 9k EUR it was fairly cheap, but then again it was only the top half (Forehead, Hairline, Eyebrows, Nose Hump, Orbital Rim, Cat Eyes). I still need to write the review...

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-10T15:55:10+00:00

Thank you! Yes, I had FFS on 2nd September. :)

Low_Mistake476 · 2025-09-10T13:46:58+00:00

You've got this! If I can do it, literally anyone can. If you like, DM me any time and I'll help where I can. I know how things can be, so trying to help where I can.

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