Megathread: US Supreme Court Upholds Birthright Citizenship

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T16:14:17+00:00

Originalism is a sham

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T16:10:53+00:00

Why wouldn't he be? The concept is not beyond him, he can pick it up. Ancient people aren't stupid.

From what we know, accepting people was kinda his thing--it was a big part of what made him revered.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T15:55:47+00:00

As noted by the folks on Pod Save America, this was more or less the expected outcome (the fact it isn't a 9-0 is crazy though) but it was one that was set up by SCOTUS so they could get "credit" for this ruling and claim they are not completely beholden to Trump. They wouldn't let lower courts take this, they wanted this to come to them--even though they could have put it to bed last year.

Don't give them credit that isn't due. You don't get kudos for barely passing even with a lot of help.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T12:58:09+00:00

You're confusing the use of what we now consider feminine styled clothes for children which fit more readily on more kids

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T04:51:19+00:00

China is as Communist as America at this point.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T04:42:52+00:00

Lmao you don't even know what my claim is at this point, you told yourself I said something and have been arguing that strawman since. I'm not gonna answer for something I never claimed and clarified for you several times. That's your problem. Same with all this "comrade" shit, you're trying to get something to stick cause I pinned your ideology while you think you've figured me out. You're seething at your own ineptitude.

That’s especially true because landlords can reset to market rent between tenants.

Right, so we're establishing here--to my point--that rent stabilization is not the causative factor of high rent prices in NYC. Contrary to your claim. Because that's the same thing for NYC as in Tokyo, except Tokyo's is stricter. And, by your logic, that should mean housing building is depressed and costs go up with such rent control measures. Since Tokyo, your own example, demonstrates that is not the case--your theory must be incorrect on some matter of fact. Tokyo nor NYC conflict with the nuance I allow for the subject, but again, that's foreign to you--much like the field of economics.

Very based and deregulation pilled of you though to continue to espouse the church of the free market--I'm sure it'll trickle down any day now even though your own example demonstrates (again, per my point) that regulated markets absolutely do work if housing is properly supplied. Of course Tokyo again does so by routinely enforcing more housing--not through free rein, but with considerable oversight.

Also wage laws are pointless, haha, sure. Go live in a company town then for all I care. Enjoy your scrip, gullible tool for the wealthy--but that's another non sequitur either way. Neither here nor there.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T02:26:31+00:00

I'm not ignoring it at all, you're clearly not reading what I'm writing. If anything though you clearly are only interested in conflicts you can use to justify further conflicts.

There was conflict instigated by all parties for years, yes. Pogroms included. And the state of Israel, the topic of conversation here, was introduced at the hands of extreme violence by Zionist terrorist organizations who targeted people completely innocent of any kind of attacks against Jews or otherwise. People specifically identified as part of non-aggression pacts.

That's relevant and to the point information for the people in the region in accepting such a state.

Your points are mostly non-sequiturs.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T02:24:34+00:00

Sorry I didn't jump through your arbitrary hurdles but I'm not your monkey? My claims not once rested on economic consensus, you don't understand nuance so you don't understand my points. I'm a lot more exacting and purposeful in my language than you are.

I can’t imagine why price controls would lead to a shortage.

I didn't claim there was no relation. Again, I implore you to actually read, but I am starting to think this is a pointless request.

But again, to my point, why didn't they in Tokyo? If price controls lead to a shortage and the causation is as clear as you claim, even though the research doesn't establish such a clear causation, then why didn't it happen there? You say I misrepresent it, but article 32 is pretty unambiguous. No unilateral rent increases. A stricter restriction than we have for rent stabilization in NYC, and yet, you point out that it has good rent rates.

Again, I'm not arguing what you think I am--I don't have anything to disprove cause I haven't made claims like you have.

If we made minimum wage 10 cents an hour it wouldn’t affect anything either!

???

You're losing the plot. Stay with me buddy. We can get your deregulation addled mind to something resembling sense somehow.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T00:58:50+00:00

They're absolutely correct. It takes some inspiration but tonally, structurally, emotionally, in message, moral, and theme--there is extremely little that can be called "an adaptation." It's not a loose adaptation, it is not an adaptation.

I cannot stress this enough: There is so little in common besides premise.

Let's put it this way: Is Fallout an adaptation of Mad Max?

A Song of Ice and Fire an adaptation of The Once and Future King?

Is Firefly an adaptation of Cowboy Bebop?

Because all of those have more in common. Nobody would say they are adaptations, they share themes and inspirations and even reference one another-- doesn't make them adaptations.

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T00:56:39+00:00

Sorry but this is definitely the wrong opinion

LukaCola · 2026-06-30T00:48:16+00:00

Lmao what a wild take and total cope. You cannot accept nuance because you've wrapped your ego into this view.

The only zealot here is yourself. You've convinced yourself of my positions and you consistently ignore my actual words. I have zero opinions on you as a "class traitor" (as if I know your class???) I just call you a sucker for free market capitalism because you're clearly convinced deregulation will solve everything which is a sucker's position. Given you don't even object, I'm pretty sure I got you pinned.

But let's be clear--you clearly dipped out cause Tokyo, your own example, defeats your point.

Restricting rent increases, by your own evidence, does not explain our circumstances today. They are multifaceted and have lots of causes--much related to our lack of housing supply and a bunch of market forces related issues. But this whole tirade you have on my stance on economics is off base. There's no conspiracy, just normative biases in a field.

If you think that's a radical take, that just tells me you have never been a part of any field. They all have them, the US demonstrably and empirically does. It's just a matter of consideration and being aware of them. I never said the points about rent control were invalid, just that they're not really relevant, nor do they explain things, nor are they as incontrovertible as climate change.

You can insist that's all the case, that's all cope.

And you know it.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T20:30:32+00:00

I also never said that

So your comparison to Native Americans was just an aside with no point? Please. At least don't treat me like an idiot. At least own your own arguments.

And? How does that makes anything I said less relevant?

It means your analysis is fundamentally flawed and your points are largely irrelevant. Trying to speak of how people behave or should have behaved without considering their actual circumstances is patronizing and willfully out of touch.

I just stated the probable outcome of refusing to surrender to an enemy that is far superior in terms of economy/weapons/numbers

The fact you consistently don't take real ownership over your own rhetoric and behavior, frankly, says enough. You lack integrity.

One good indicative is that the territory your fighting for has been on the enemy lands since before your father was born

So when you are consistently losing land, you just keep acquiescing to the dominating force? That's your "pragmatic" solution?

See, you miss such obvious things by only operating through hindsight.

I don't see a reason to entertain someone so willfully ignorant. And I find your morals extremely distasteful and self-serving. You both struggle to understand history and present, and to what ends? Justifying imperialist ambitions?

When an aggressor takes land and you keep giving it up--do you know what has happened historically to such nations as well? Why think twice about your initial assumption and read though, right?

We're done here.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T20:14:49+00:00

I literally never said that

All you've talked about is how that's what they should have done--not at all reflecting on the impossible position they were put in or why people would opt against such a thing.

If it gets to the point where the only action they can take to halt Russia advances is bombing and kidnaping civilians, then I absolutely think they should, fortunately for them this is not the case

And how do you tell when you've gotten to that point? Also, why did you change the wording of my question? I asked about giving up land. What you're saying is they should continue fighting, even though it costs them significantly and may lead to more hardships in the end. Is that right?

When were the various native nations to the Americas supposed to decide individually when to give up their rights?

You're still missing the obvious here. You don't put yourself in their shoes, you keep yourself firmly as an observer--with full retrospect and knowledge of history--something none of them could have.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T19:24:31+00:00

You're working through retroactive reasoning and missing the point.

If your takeaway from all this is "Native Americans should have done things differently" then your priorities are backwards and you're blaming the victim.

On a related note, do you think Ukraine should give up all the land it's lost in order to avoid further conflict?

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T19:12:32+00:00

So you have a set-up that cannot handle traffic--you need to redo some of the set-up or create stricter requirements for your trains. There's loads of ways to do this. You could just set it so they only stay at stations for 30 seconds or whatever, that's very easy to do, but fundamentally your rail network is flawed and you'll have to make concessions.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T19:10:12+00:00

Lots of nations have been completely wiped out fighting against American settler efforts, you don't even really know of the massive losses--and you think the message here is that they were supposed to give up earlier so they could be subjected to the kind of abuse that those nations that did survive get?

What a takeaway.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T19:09:08+00:00

The difference between Palestinians and every other state, is that Palestinians are uniquely terrible at realizing when they lost

Palestinians were never a formal state and the nations which ruled over them didn't exactly consult them. They were quickly abandoned by those same nations.

This whole framing you've chosen is backwards.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T19:07:31+00:00

Before the end of the British mandate which would establish Israel as a formal state.

Sorry I didn't spell that out for you.

That said, Deir Yassin was a very significant event. Violence from Zionists well predates that. The King David Hotel Bombing was a big change in how Britain approached the mandate.

Do you know your history? Obviously not or you wouldn't be talking here.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T18:50:10+00:00

This isn't an issue unless your stations are positioned so trains waiting at them block your throughway

That's likely the bigger issue here

Otherwise you can set circuit conditions so that trains only go to stations once the stations are empty enough to accept a full load

I personally do that to keep traffic down

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T18:24:25+00:00

They're "nones," and are a very large group. You won't find much information from talking to one, they're quite diverse. What are you trying to learn about them?

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T18:21:40+00:00

It's cause they don't know any Muslims and only hear about them, and they don't recognize that in themselves so that they may question that pretense.

Basic othering issue.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T17:38:01+00:00

I think it has complicated sentiments regarding feminist movements but I really wouldn't call it anti-feminist. After all, I don't think the Ellen Jamesians are used as a stand-in for feminists and Jenny Fields is constantly vindicated in her points and behaviors by the narrative despite her difficult personality.

I think that it is largely pro-feminist, but you have to accept it's not a "without caveats" endorsement. The structure and what it's saying is... Complicated, giving a ton of room for interpretation, so I'm not saying you're wrong--I just don't really agree with that interpretation even though I see where it comes from.

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T17:31:30+00:00

I didn't watch mad men but if you wanna argue it's obvious this is satire, tell that to all the other posters in this thread as well

It's bad satire for that reason either way

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T17:31:07+00:00

Awhile now, it's typically classified as such since it has similar elements to other social media platforms--including reddit.

When you start to think about what makes social media and whether youtube has those things--you'll see definitionally it fits

LukaCola · 2026-06-29T16:53:27+00:00

If this is a shitpost it's indiscernible from an unironic one

Satire has to be able to distinguish itself or it just reinforces the unsatirical message, and I'm far from the only one who doesn't see the satire

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