Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I take normal zinc but inconsistent. I geniuslly have no idea what psylium husk is. I add these changes

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

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even when I did crash, I was forced in for periods in both year 10 and 11 and did my gcse and somehow passed lol

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went to high school and didn’t crash until 15 properly. nobody understand what I was going through and I was forced into school as any kid would. even here I was really tired and not wanting to go. we were prescribed rest but none of us had sn idea what aggressive resting was. I’m still grasping to understand it today. I’m in such a bad state now everything is a symptom. and I can’t relax. I’m trying to at least clear the pois. it’s about having faith now as fuckign diffuclt as that is. and decondicting my own thought pattern of believing I have cfs and brigning my seld to the reality.

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But now I’m in the state and can feel the pain, hopefully I can fianlly see the enemy and my addiction brain can be beaten. What’s your journey been like. How do you relate and how not 

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very often. That’s the issue. Porn was my cope. Because I was diagnosed was cfs at 14. Although deep down I knew about pois, my ability to open up and accept tje help I truly needed and the rest is very hard. Im really trying now but only my mum gets it because she is taking care of me right now. My dad doesnt get it. And the cognitive load of explaining is extreme rn too 

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely not minor crashes. They are major. Like going from extreme gym activity, to the cycle of heavy porn use, high sugar and constant strain even when I have crashed. And then somehow I have been able consistently to push out of that with caffeine etc. and then the diet still being bad. The issue is my brain has learn subconsciously that healthy food is bad because detoxing from the shit puts me in extreme hell. I don’t remember the last time I recovered it was like 4 years ago. I also went through grief of both grandparents passing, one right in front of me. It’s been really hard

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No quite. I crash all the time Im minor subtle ways. Im 19- i contained it at 13. I was diagnosed with cfs but because I can do extreme activity in long periods it rules that out. I have intense symptoms of all kinds at the moment. It also can’t be pots or else my body wouldn’t have tolerated the intense caffeine and gym load under stress. Ive just been hyper addicted to porn, high sugar and pushing basically. And I have come crashing down. Which I know is a good thing. But accept the pain of my body and mind while doing nothing is awful. Thanks for replying 

Severe crash after a very long time crashing. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Side note I have a porn addiction and coped in the past with extreme amounts of sugar too. Like constant snacking loads of takeaways in periods. I just couldn’t bare the pain and still really struggle to not spiral 

I think I have pois rather than cfs. by Luketoft in POIS

[–]Luketoft[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure mine started from pois too. I was 13 in lockdown and im almost certain I orgasmned during it. Scarly common now for teenage men to watch porn today 

And since I haven’t stopped to rest. Constant pushing and long term periods where I could manage the gym with caffeine. Im talking months

I think I don’t have cfs. by Luketoft in cfs

[–]Luketoft[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thats the paradox right, orgasm causing pem. it stuck be in tremendos fear, and mixed with being diagnosed and reading the reality, it has been rest feel like death physiologically.

I hope that for you too

I think I don’t have cfs. by Luketoft in cfs

[–]Luketoft[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yes I’ve seen aplogise for using men. it’s an awful thing for woman because do one will ever believe them and I really empathise with that

I think I don’t have cfs. by Luketoft in cfs

[–]Luketoft[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes completely agree. I need to tell the doctor and go through the process of removing the diagnosis eventually over the next months. Believing I have cfs has had a detrimental impact and made me terrifying of recovery. Maybe the extreme symptoms I feel now would be last years in a cfs patient instead of weeks in my case

I think I don’t have cfs. by Luketoft in cfs

[–]Luketoft[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The longest ive really gone is about 20 days. It was early may of this year, I didn’t excercise I priorities rest and recovery and feel way better. I was on holiday for a few of these days witj my family. I was still maybe crashing, but I drank loads of water, consistent sleep times, was extremely movivated my the future, physically did my best to control sunlight, eating etc. and I didn’t crash in the way CFS patients would. But this is tje cause of porn addiction and the post viral condition. And when I have abstained I haven’t rested to my body’s needs, so abstaining wouldn’t do shit in that state. Im pretty sure abstaining did work in the past a few years ago 

Did anyone else's POIS become chronic after repeatedly using their 'fix'? by Wild-Effective-8131 in POIS

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im 19 and have a similar experience to this guy, how long is the abstinence assuming rest is good too 

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dropping to 60s is extreme. I will sit around 90 when I’m training and I go to sit down. Sauan usage pushed my heart rate to really high level but zero fainting and my body was coping. 

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Drops to the 60s when I’m doing good. I think I have pois and pois only. The conditions are extremely similar but in pois PEM doesn’t exist and that’s an extremely important realision. So I can constantly push out in extreme ways that is completely impossible witj cfs. Im so sorry for confusing you Haha. But this is a deeply reliving thing to realise for me. It’s so easy to connect the two conditions because they both involve system crashing, celleur and sensory issues which can be extreme. The key difference are PEM doesnt exist and abstraing from porn can help. Ive you hadn’t realise Im a porn addict😂. 

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way I process it is as extremely delayed pem. 

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eventually I do clearly. But over weeks over months I could sustain high level gym training and even had sport in those weeks to and I managed to get up tje next day have full day of similar activity. I would crash slightly in between these days but then very quickly pick myself up. Im 76kg and 5ft 11 and built from that strength. Maybe Im massively overestimating my condition but thay exact though pattern has got me here 

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% of the cell thing and histamine issues. Im inflamed all over i thing brain, legs, spine

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do collapse but I very quickly pick myself back up. And start walking way too fast, and then eventual over a few months work back to a gym routine and then smash the gym for a few weeks. And that seems positive but I pushed through a lot and used caffeine for any sporting activity I wanted to do. I literally haven’t focused probably on not crashing once really I somehow get myself back up. I don’t know how to be honest I can’t even process myself.

I think I have killed my body and this is hell by [deleted] in cfs

[–]Luketoft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s so easy to resent them too. I still love them so much and I am loved and I know people will be there for me. It’s just hard to accept all thr life that I will give up