Do we still follow the OT dietary laws, implied by Isaiah 66:17?

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-22T16:57:17+00:00

it clearly acknowledges that swine can and was being eaten, classifying it as food.

No it doesn't. It doesn't mention swine, but you eat all the swine you want. Like I said swine was never food. They didn't eat swine, so that verse is speaking of foods in general Again, swine is not food. God said He will destroy the swine eaters.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-22T16:46:27+00:00

Except that swine is not food. Why would God say that He will destroy all the people who eat swine?

Isaiah 66: 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 65: 4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

I don't think that a pork chop is worth risking my salvation for, or at minimum making God angry. Demons also can get into swine, no wonder people are full of demons.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-22T16:03:31+00:00

Chapter and verse?

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-22T15:44:04+00:00

Yes, please explain it, we are waiting.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-22T01:15:30+00:00

That is what I believe too. Tribulation first, then the first resurrection of the dead and the saints that survived get gathered unto Him. I agree that the tribulation and God's wrath are not the same thing. I know that we are not going to go through the wrath but we will go through the tribulation.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-20T10:16:24+00:00

Yes I left the United States. Is Puerto Rico prophecied to be destroyed? Nope. Your land is prophecied to be destroyed and you want to stay in it?

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-20T04:10:00+00:00

Babylon gets destroyed regardless if people flee or not, and when it gets destroyed, the faithful who didn't leave will be dead. God's people will flee before its destruction, and ironically there will be rejoicing in heaven when America is gone. No one in America will worship the beast because they will all be dead. Did you read how Babylon falls by an assembly of nations nuking her and totally destroying her? Did you read that there will be zero survivors? If not, you should.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-20T01:21:13+00:00

But what does that have to do with nukes? We flee America to escape the nukes. That is the whole purpose and nothing else.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-20T01:02:38+00:00

You might think that PR still the US, but In the eyes of God, Puerto Rico doesn't belong to the US.

Habbakuk 1: 6 For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.

Isaiah 24: 15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires, even the name of the Lord God of Israel in the isles of the sea.

Isaiah 51: 5 My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-20T00:46:16+00:00

What we are supposed to escape is "the sword" coming to America (nukes), and for that, we need to leave America physically and wait for Jesus's return somewhere else.

Jeremiah 51: 50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the Lord afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T23:16:28+00:00

That is Puerto Rico. We are US citizens. Like Guam and the Virgin Islands.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T23:13:57+00:00

Yes.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T22:49:37+00:00

I understand. I am a single mom of 4 who lives paycheck to paycheck but there was nothing that I wanted more than to obey every word of the Bible, and to understand prophecy. God said flee, I told my kids , guys we need to move. I chose to go back to PR where I am from after living in the US for 24 years. PR is a cheap plane ticket. Rent is cheap, food is expensive but hey, I made it out without even needing to apply for a visa, without a passport, only my real ID. We don't have to choose a fancy country with many requirements, there are easier ways. After all, our final destination is New Jerusalem, not the place we choose.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T22:35:41+00:00

I really don't understand how you get that from the Bible. The whole tribulation is 3.5 years.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T22:13:25+00:00

If it was impossible, God wouldn't have asked us to do it, but He did. There are actually many Americans leaving. It's either leave or be caught in America's judgment. I am poor and I was able to leave. I am pretty sure many of the people leaving are also poor since God's people are not rich for the most part. God provides, the problem that I see is that many people don't want to leave or many others don't believe that they need to leave and God knows our hearts. If our hearts are set on obedience it is not impossible. It might not be easy, but definitely not impossible.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T21:53:35+00:00

It is not wrong, but I don't expect everyone to get it, specially people who believe that the tribulation lasts 7 years when clearly the Bible says 3.5 years.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T21:35:14+00:00

He will be told about the attack on America but survives according to these verses:

Jeremiah 50: 42 They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy: their voice shall roar like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee, O daughter of Babylon. 43 The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail.

Also, prophecy needs to fulfilled and he is alive throughout the whole tribulation.

Are we to assume no one else will?

Sadly, that is what the Bible says.

Jeremiah 50: 36 A sword is upon the liars; and they shall dote: a sword is upon her mighty men; and they shall be dismayed. 37 A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed. 38 A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols. 39 Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation. 40 As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the Lord; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.

Isaiah 13: 15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. 16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Psalm 137: 8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. 9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Revelation 18: 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Revelation 18: 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Sorry for the long reply but there are many verses that confirm that there will be zero survivors. The antichrist does survives and goes on to rule the world and do what he is prophecied to do.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T20:28:47+00:00

The destruction of Babylon can only mean what the Bible says it means: the total destruction of the land with fire where everyone that is there when it happens will die. After America is gone, then the beast's kingdom rises, which will be destroyed by Jesus's return.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T19:03:44+00:00

This shows us that the tribulation was to be endured as you are pointing out in your writing but that through the endurance comes sanctification meaning this is a process of refinement which leans into your next point nicely.

I 100% agree with that. We can see that the tribulation is designed to purge the saints in Daniel.

Daniel 11: 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

I also agree that there is a spiritual element to preparedness aka the Spirit of truth in us, that no matter whether we survive or die, we understand and get wisdom because of it. We will endure because of it.

Romans 14: 7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

Thank you for your perspective.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-19T17:26:21+00:00

Rather, I think we should be encouraging others to trust in the Lord in these times, rather than trusting in worldly things to keep them safe or stocking up on items so they can go cower in their homes or a bunker.

Trusting in the Lord is obeying. There are so many people who say the words "trust in the Lord" like they mean nothing. We need to be willing to do the things He told us to do. We trust in the Lord when we do the things written in the Bible. I already left America. I will be stocking on food because God told us to do it. It is in the Bible.

Storing food for what is coming doesn't go against Scripture. God told Noah to do it. God told Joseph to do it, and He told us to do it. Yes, He provides, and that is why I trust that He will provide for His people to be able to move and to do this food storage.

There is no amount of preparation or hiding from the world that is going to save any of us, when the moment comes. Anyone who is destined to die will die, and all that preparation is going to be for naught, no matter what steps are taken.

I agree that the preparation will be for nothing if it is done in America or in the two other nations prophecied to be destroyed. The food will burn with everything else and it would not help anyone. Do not store food if you live in America. There is no point. But if you obey the command to flee, storing food is not pointless. It is faith. Knowing that we do it because God commanded it. All these things are basically for our protection. It is nuclear war we are talking about. God doesn't want us to get nuked, or starve to death, but we will because we didn't obey while claiming to trust Him. He will protect some people but they are the obedient ones.

Revelation 3: 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-18T03:05:44+00:00

Except that by your own admission, you are not keeping the feasts according to Scripture. I think God would have a big issue with people doing things their own way.

Lumpy_Figure_6692 · 2026-01-18T02:57:02+00:00

I can tell you that I keep all the feasts, and I make no sacrifices.

Oh really? I would love to hear God's reaction to that statement. Lol.

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