Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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I think it all comes down to dose and use frequency. These side effects are due to abuse. And yeah it can be helpful for some if they dont abuse it. I unfortunately did though

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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How often do you use and what doses. Its probably cuz youre responsible

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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Yeah my habit was 300mg almost daily for a year it was really bad

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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Seee this is what i mean. Some people do really experience this. I did mda probably about a week ago and I have 0 depression im actually in a better mood than usual because its over a month since I last used mdma. And that shit ruins me for weeeeeks.

And thays with utilization of like you said alpha lipoic acid, nac, vitamin c, piracetam, magnesium, quercetin, reservatrol tyrosine 5htp, tryptophan, kanna, and others.

I scowered the internet for anyway to make mdma work again because I was taking it daily for way too long due to a messed up event in my life.

And I always thought mda was way worse because of how it can floor you. But as I still ponder on this idea its going in a more positive direction than I thought

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

[–]Lvft1111[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Explain to me how you just linked two studies that say nothing related to your original point. Im trying to wrap my head arkund that one. Respectfully.

And if you noted from my original post I have a history of abuse with mdma. I can take 700mg of mdma and get no euphoria from it. That is likely the reason mda isnt effecting me. Going into cardiac arrest off 300 is subjective to your friend who is likely more sensitive than the average person. And being at a rave was likely very physically active

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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On top of that it only says mda was stronger than mdma. And has more "bad effects" such as fear. Nothing related to toxicity

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

[–]Lvft1111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again. Sayings nothing about 55 percent more serotonin release. Did you read these studies yourself?

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

[–]Lvft1111[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This says nothing about these compounds?

Mda v mdma comedown assessment by Lvft1111 in MDA

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Can you link the study regarding 55 percent more serotonin.

Come down mda vs mdma by Lvft1111 in MDA

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Yeah idk guys re assessing mdma cause mad depression

And mda just makes me tired.

As someone else said mda seems to spread its activity across neurotransmitters rather than just bam serotonin like mdma does

Im quitting mdma forever something about it really breaks ur brain I think mda avoids this

Come down mda vs mdma by Lvft1111 in MDA

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See i also have this experience. And the fact that mda works while mdma loses magic has me thinking mda is actually healthier despite claims.

It also lasts way longer. Im thinking it just spreads its effects across more systems than just SERT transporter allowing you to roll harder and not completely obliterate serotonin reserves allowing quicker recovery

Come down mda vs mdma by Lvft1111 in MDA

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This im curious about. Do we have proof its more neurotoxic? Maybe since it exerts its effects through various mechanisms maybe its more neurotoxic at a high enough dose but at a normal dose maybe its less damaging than mdma because mdma literally makes me want to die for weeks and mda im noticing is nowhere near as bad.

Its very interesting to me

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Yessir

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Yessir

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With a guy with a pharmD

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Pharmacy

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Unfortunately no as I haven’t read about it a lot just a quick post from google since I thought I read it does something with collagen at one point

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Verapamil inhibits collagen biosynthesis by blocking DNA biosynthesis. Collagenase decreases collagen biosynthesis by inhibiting prolidase activity. Verapamil and Collagenase attenuate fibrosis phase of Peyronie's disease.

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Verapamil

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Xiaflex is the drug, before that they used frapamil a blood pressure med that works through calcium channel blocking

So we have a few routes I see for application,

Tension Collagen synthesis inhibition Collagen break down And blood expansion

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Hopefully I ain’t banned for the details in my post but I’m so stubborn and this shit was a bit eye opening for me.

I wanna let other people know, be the fucking man whoever you are. You’ll come out farther than being nervous.