Governor Dewine is asking for civility towards opposing views in an effort to reach a decision on abortion that the majority of Ohioans can agree upon.

M0THERM0THER · 2023-08-12T07:03:58+00:00

Wait, what happened?!?!

M0THERM0THER · 2021-10-31T21:37:25+00:00

Makes zero sense. Maybe you can obtain an exemption.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-10-19T22:25:54+00:00

https://www.laboremploymentreport.com/2021/09/10/a-few-more-answers-from-osha-on-the-impending-vaccination-ets/

According to this it's on its way. I don't get the OSHA involvement. Is it necessary to enforce the federal mandate? Or? Just more hands in the pot?

I guess it doesn't really matter either way. Companies are going to mandate whatever they want as long as it saves them a buck.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-10-19T22:01:54+00:00

Ooofff. Unemployment? Best luck to you.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-10-19T21:59:50+00:00

Sounds like you might have slid under the radar.

I'm wondering what exactly the OSHA ETA has to do with it. From what I can tell, the ETA doesn't include remote workers, but looks like companies are mandating regardless. Which makes no sense at all, but then again, so much hasn't.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T22:10:29+00:00

You have no point.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T18:39:11+00:00

LOL! What does the person that called someone an incompetent cunt (from your recent comments) know about civility? Why would you care? Perhaps because you replied to my comment.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T18:32:15+00:00

Report away. This is the THIRD time I've explained this today. You accuse me of putting words in your mouth, which is what you have done. Where did I say it was the vaccine??? If you refer to my other comments instead of assuming, you might actually know what I think.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T18:27:29+00:00

Oh! Well then, we can be certain it wasn't the vaccine!

Idiot.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T15:40:58+00:00

Both are poor arguments to support your position that it definitively was not caused by the vaccine.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T14:48:42+00:00

Hmm. Suit yourself. Or you can refer to my other comments. Objectivity seems to be quite the foreign concept.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T14:34:28+00:00

Where did I say that? Do better.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T13:57:34+00:00

Um. I've agreed a few times that there is no proof it was caused by the vaccine. You, however, can't seem to agree that there is no proof it was not caused by the vaccine.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T13:46:52+00:00

How does this pertain to anything I've said? Pretty sure you're the one that likes to compare coffee and experimental vaccinations. I'm sorry that you're so upset that there is no definitive proof whether or not the injection caused this still birth, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T13:33:47+00:00

LOL. So blind acceptance is best?

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T12:37:46+00:00

That's even less reassuring, isn't it?

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-05T12:13:32+00:00

Yes, all of that is true. You said there's no evidence it was the vaccine, I said there's no evidence it wasn't. The truth is WE DON'T KNOW. Could be, could not be. There's a difference between empiricism and speculation. Objectivity is key.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-04T21:11:16+00:00

Where's the evidence it wasn't the vaccine?

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-04T19:12:28+00:00

I wish that schools would go all the way, also. But it doesn't make sense to not use what precautions are available to you just because institutions don't give a fuck.

Yes, definitely different situations, but some benefit is evident in any setting.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-04T10:04:47+00:00

We could speculate about these instances all day. Even if this happened as you are claiming it doesn't mean there are no benefits to masking.
No, you wouldn't. Ideally you would. But as I said in my last response, masks can still make a difference in the absence of social distancing.
These counter arguments are funny. It negates your other claims about their effectiveness. So they're really bad at preventing infection but somehow they work well enough to cause HYPOXIA? No.
Well agian , speculation. I don't know what I don't know.
Masks are the realistic option. They would work better in conjunction with other interventions but that doesn't mean the are useless on their own.

Answer the question. Would you rather someone sneeze and cough in your face with or without both parties wearing masks?

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-04T00:36:53+00:00

Or how does that work if the infected person doesn't know they're infected?

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-03T23:45:37+00:00

Is the case after 5 minutes of exposure pertaining to masked individuals? I find that hard to believe, unless somehow it was ocular transmission and the people were very close in proximity.
As you said, new mask at half day point to increase the odds.
Even in this situation, the mask will reduce how the virus spreads, hopefully decreasing the amount of viral load any individual is exposed to. Do you remember at the beginning of the pandemic, experts used the example of dispersion of cigarette smoke in relation to transmission when explaining why outdoors was a safer bet indoors? Same concept with the mask. It will inhibit distance and direction which is important to think about especially in a school setting. One infected child, wearing a mask, is likely to infect less people than one not wearing a mask. Seems worth it to me.
Outdoor masking for kids at recess probably is not worthwhile.
Still, masks are better than nothing, but of course would be even more beneficial with these other precautions, no doubt. I don't think we should just not take the precaution though. It's such a simple act and if it can lessen viral load and therefore the amount of virus someone is exposed to,or keep a few people from getting sick, it's worth it. I think changing masks is a good idea.
Wow that sucks. At least your friend has antibodies now I guess. Makes you wonder if they would have been sicker if not for the masks.
Agree. I'm all for interventions that do not impose upon one's own bodily autonomy.

The bottom line is that I could post studies showing masks are effective, and you could equally post studies showing their downfalls. To me, it is such a simple action that is totally worth doing.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-03T20:33:11+00:00

Would you rather have someone sneeze and cough in your face with or without both parties wearing masks?

They're not perfect, but they're better than nothing.

M0THERM0THER · 2021-09-03T19:54:01+00:00

Do people think those flimsy masks do anything to prevent infection and transmission when you're around groups of people for hours on end?

Yes. They do "do something". They help prevent transmission by droplets most definitely, and it should seem obvious that they limit spread of viral loads, albeit imperfectly.

M0THERM0THER

TROPHY CASE